Lord Duckhunter

I didn't particularly mean now, just what do people expect us to achieve with this group of players. I could have asked ,had another manager come and had these players, what position would people expect us to finish? Bearing in mind how good the top 6 have been this season Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

He was talking pony. One claim " we are leaving continental Europe ". No we're not Ken . Before praising this Europhile civil servant . The one who worked for him and was at one time Cleggys boss. The people who need to get in the real world are remoaning clowns. We're leaving,we're leaving the single market and we're going to be fine. The Michael Fish moment has done for the establishment . Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Maybe you're right, but there has been a lot of hyperbole on other threads. I find it strange that people making the most fuss about going backwards under Puel seem unwilling to post what an acceptable finish is to them. Personally I think it's because if Puel achieves it they'll have to STFU. Far better to stick to nothing measurable so they can continue to moan. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

**** me , Ken Clarke on Marr. Like a petulant kid throwing nonsense & insults around . Looks like he's after Grocer Heaths longest sulk record Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Koemans got one goal and one goal only, becoming Barcelona's manager. He hasn't got time to hang around building Everton up, he needs a quick fix. Followed by a jump to a genuine big club (maybe Arsenal) , then onto Barca . Fannying around making players like Ross Barclay better is not on his agenda Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Some really interesting and decent comments. Confusing really because all the Puel out threads are full of "we've gone backwards" and disaster mixed with doom and gloom. Yet when people are asked the specific question of their expectations most people seem to agree around mid table . Of course when you add subjective stuff about playing style and the like, then people are a bit more negative, whilst staying sensible in their expectations. I'm surprised there wasn't more doom on this thread, perhaps the "Puel out" brigade don't want to put their heads above the parapet and state a finishing position acceptable to them in case he makes that. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Some pretty reasonable & sensible replies so far, all seem to suggest mid tableish. Top 6 has clearly gone, unlike last year when Chelsea & Liverpool were very average Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk

Reading through the threads on here I really do wonder what people's expectations are for this season with this group of players. So instead of wondering I thought I'd ask. What position in the league & what sort of cup run constitutes "par" for us this season. Personally I think a top half finish with a decent cup run will be a bloody good effort and would match anything Koeman did with Morgan, Mane & Big Vic. The majority clearly disagree so I'd like to know their expectations , what is their realistic target for our finishing position this season? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

So 10th and you'll shut up banging on about Puel?

We beat Norwich at home last season rofl ( whatever that means ) . I was talking about our home defeat in the FA cup 3rd round. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

What position is acceptable . None of the moaners has yet to answer that. The reason being they can't say 5th or 6th because that's foolish . They won't post mid table because Puel might get that . So they post subjective pony about " style" or number of points off the top. I'll ask again , what league position do you consider acceptable with this group of players? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

So how should we judge the season. What is an acceptable league position to you? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I bet you can't wait . Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I'm not particularly unhappy . In the hat unlike others in our league & a reply is another opportunity for the nippers to have a run . It's not all doom & gloom . Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

We were so much better last year .........When we lost at home Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Shame they can't defend Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You can't blame VvD on here . Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Stoke , Boscombe & West Brom all losing to lower league teams Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Ship & mitre has the best beer Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Koeman losing at home Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

He used to go in the pig & whistle in the last few seasons before the move to sms. He was friendly with Sam Voges dad. I've seen his daughter at a few games and saw him last season, so he still goes. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Spot on, post of '17 so far. You do wonder why some of out fan base insist on taking everything Reed says & twist it to their agenda. He's not going to say " we've no ficking chance of champions league" , but when he mentions it, all of a sudden it's "Les has promised us CL". When he talks about our midfield options positively , he's derided as believing we have the best midfield in the country. FFS are these people like it in real life , when their misses says , " this dress is so tight it's killing me" do they ring an ambulance? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Exactly Makes me laugh this " free" access to the single market . It's not free if you have to hand over parts of your sovereignty to join. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I was replying to the question "'who has access to the single market"'as you know. Perhaps you could explain the difference to your fellow remoaner , who doesn't seem to understand Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Who doesn't have access to it? To help you , this is from the BBC fact check on their web site. "Any countries that are not subject to trade sanctions can trade with members of the single market." Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk