Lord Duckhunter

Ship and mitre for me if it opens early enough , been in there the past 2 games. pap, I've got the mrs and nipper with me this weekend and we're staying in Liverpool 1. Any decent tips for boozer or area that will let 15 year old in sat eve

Pulis is obviously flavour of the month at the moment because of the job he did for palace. I don't know the ins and outs of it, but it leaves a bit of a bad taste leaving this near to the season . I've read reports that he wanted players on £40k week salaries and the board don't think that's sustainable . Seeing as they've been in admin twice recently , you can't blame them. There's always been a bit of Harry Redknapp in Pulis IMO , so pushing the board to overspend is no surprise ( if it's true). At the end of the day, managers should manage the players and the board manage the finances.

A handful of saints fans. Why not make something up about a man utd player, that would get more interest. I would imagine most hacks would be trying to get MS side of the story, ringing him, contacts at saints or his agent. With his links to the previous regime it woulkdf masks sense for MS to use Ashton to put his spin on. This is not a made up story IMO. The claim maybe pony, but only if somebody has lied to Ashton. He has not made it up. My view is there may have been an " understanding" or a nod and a wink. Nicola probably made it a grey area and hard to prove. More fool ms and his agent for not insisting on it being clear, transparent, and in writing.

I don't know how I'm going to cope with the thought of never watching the great man in a Saints shirt again. I'll always remember where I was when I heard the news , a true Lady Di moment for me. I don't know if I can face the humiliation of seeing my work mates knowing that we only got £3mil for him, they're going to really rub it in.

Anybody who thinks that Rogers was unaware of lovren and his abilities before he signed for us clearly doesn't know anything about Rogers. Say what you like about him ( and personally I find him a right big head) but he has great attention to detail and a vast knowledge of players.

So you think Ashton just made it up? Went in to work and thought " I know I'll make something up about Southampton" . If that's the case then the bloke is a complete plum, if you're going to make something up, why choose Southampton? Now I'm not saying the story is true, but somebody ( MS or his agent I would suggest) has given him this spin on the on going story.They wanted his side out as he was getting some bad pr and this was the vehicle they used.

It does make you wonder if all the premiership scouts are wandering about with their heads up their jacksies . We have a great little player , available at an unbelievably cheap price and only crystal palace seem interested. Why aren't spurs,Everton,stoke,west ham, villa , hull or wba chasing up this bargain. It appears that not only RK & Les are complete idiots for failing to see how great the guy is, but half the premier league managers and their scouting network are also complete clowns.

Get some perspective man, it's not a tragedy.

You've got a strange understanding of the word great

If you think he's a great player , you are either drunk or related to him

He is not a "great player" and palace will not finish above us. If we are going to have a pathway to the first team for players like HR and JWP we can't have average mid/bottom premiership players standing in their way. I'm happy with the midfield we have without him, he's not as good as people make out . Playing for palace is about his level, we have a far better midfield than that.

In what way was he badly treated by the club? We're not some Sunday pub team .

FFS you lot are like a jilted boyfriend. It's bad enough singing a stupid song when he's playing , but doing it when he's out injured just makes us look small time . Maybe if we're winning with a couple of minutes to go then some **** taking maybe in order . But if we're 3 or 4 down and singing stupid songs "clatenburg was right, you've changed Adam ". Will make us look right numptys. The best thing we can do is go over the top with our apprication of his replacement, that's the best way to dent his ego. Not some stupid song

At least we've got the scapegoat sorted preseason. I was getting worried with the departure of Foxy and Guly plus Gazza slipping down the pecking order , we'd be starting the season without one.

He'll be better value than Gaston or Osvaldo .

When sky broke the Lambert deal they initially said £9 million. Turned out to be £4 mil ( according to you). Perhaps you could enlighten us as to exactly how much we are paying for Long ( excluding add ons ) , your source for this information and finally how much you think Shane Long is worth

If we were signing somebody like jack cork today this board would be in melt down. He is really not that good, if he was as good as some make out on here , going into the last year of his contract loads of clubs would be in for him.

I bet he'll end up better value than Osvaldo or Gaston .

I think longs a pretty decent player, but then what do I know I'm just an ordinary joe who posts in a football forum. If I was an ex international defender who played for barca and won the European nations cup and champions league I may be a better judge. Particularly if I had a massive scouting network behind me. I would have thought RK thinks he can do a job, and I'd say he was better qualified to judge than anyone on here. I doubt the fee is £12 mil , remember what lamberts initial reports of a fee were for the same outlet . He's a good solid pro, used to the rough and tumble of the premiership , exactly what we need right now. I'll also be happy with a solid pro from within the premiership as a centre half signing this week. Pelle is the gamble, long is proven at this level, I'm happier with him than Ings or that borini bloke.

**** me, you lot are a forgiving bunch. Bloke doesn't want to play for the club I love despite signing a good contract last year. So what if his mates have left, didums. He hasn't prepared for the season properly and therefore has put pressure on the new manager when he's facing a difficult start to his saints career. There are ways of behaving and professional standards and behaving like he has is disgraceful . There are players up and down the country subject to speculation and longing for moves to bigger clubs, but they are getting on with their jobs and putting a shift in for their present employers and supporters. The bloke should have played a part sat as it was the last game before an important season starts. He needs to get on with what he's paid to do and be professional for a few weeks before I'll "forgive" him.

If RK wants him to stay then I'm sure he'll be offered a new contract. He's obviously decided that Jose is in his plans , perhaps he hasn't made his mind up about cork yet. Maybe he feels that he'll do for one year and then move him on , maybe he wants longer to judge him.

If we start holding our youngsters to their contracts and denying them moves to big clubs, the next batch are going to be more reluctant to sign pro contracts with us. If we start losing our youngsters to big clubs with the fee being decided by tribunals, we'll lose a hell of a lot of money. There may not be official release clauses, but I'm damn sure there's an " understanding"even if there isn't anything official.

This is one of the reasons players behave like they do. Team mates, supporters, media, agents and buying clubs all make excuses for them. There is only one person in the wrong here and its MS. Yet people still make excuses and blame others. We boo ex skates who have nothing against our club , we give players doing their best like Fox and Guly clog. Yet a bloke who doesn't want to be here, will get cheered if he decides to honour us with his presence again. He's sticking 2 fingers up to us, yet its somebody else's fault?

Johnny cash at the Albert hall about '94. Legend Paul McCartney at Southampton gaumont about '79 then again at jrs stadium Miami in '90. Seriously good live act in those days. Paul Simon BIC , great musicians with him, great show nearly 3 hours long. Ringo Starr and his all star band BIC. Great night out. Special mentions to chuck berry, Paul Weller and Wilko Johnson as well.

Its like us signing Sam vokes and he misses a peno and a couple of sitters in pure season. What would the reaction be on here?