Lord Duckhunter

Kelvin has to play Sunday, even if half fit.Anything else and were ****ed.......... We have to nurse Kelvin through the next 3 games and then get someone in on loan as cover for him.We have to face facts. We are going to be involved in some big games in the next few months. Saturday was not any where near the tension levels that'll come as we arrive nearer and nearer to may,yet Bard blow it. He blow it so bad that I'm afraid for all Adkins kind words, they're just that, words.He can not risk him again, until he's gone out on loan and shown it was a one off. Harsh, of course, but the prize is there for the taking and if you're not up to it, you're not up to it. It wasn't about one mistake, it was his overall performance.It was one of the worst displays I've seen from a Saints Keeper in 40 odd years, in a run of the mill home league game.

We had schooling that gave the brightest kids from the poorest families a decent education, but our political masters abolished them.

Exactly....... Why should I get rid of my hard working, easy to manage Poles, and replace them with people forced to work, who dont really want to? It is not my job to install a hard working positive attitude into workshy wasters. That's the job of their parents and the education system. If I had a choice, I'd even replace some of my English workers with more Poles.I've got blokes who do the bare minimum, wont do O/T because it effects their WFTC and keep moaning at The Poles that they're "showing them up", with their hard working attitude.........

No way, my Poles were the best workers I had. Willing to work any hours and do as much O/T as I could throw at them. My Company would suffer if I had to get rid of them and give the jobs to English people who were forced to do the work.

There's only a limitted amount any Govt can do. Govt job creation schemes are expensive and rarely lead to long term sustainable jobs, unless they are jobs in the public sector. The public sector is already too bloated but it should have been dealt with during the "boom years". In my opinion the time to make efficiencies and to cut public sector jobs is when the private sector are creating jobs. Labour bottled the reforms needed, when there were jobs in the private sector, and the coalition now have to do it when the outlook is bleak. My personal opinion is that Labour mishandled the boom years,even more so than they mismanged the bust.Welfare needed sorting out and Frank Field was brought in to do so. They had whopping great majorities and are the only party that could have the political ground to do so. They completely and utterly bottled it and seemed more intent to be permanently fighting the next election, rather than do what was right.What we see now is the result of years of an overbloated public sector, a generous welfare system that encouraged people to stay at home, and the lack of political will to sort things out. 5 years ago, I had full time job vaccancies that paid just above the minimum wage. All I could get to work these jobs were Poles. There were no English people applying unless they were complete and utter drop outs.This was mainly down to them loosing their benefits and being just as well off on the dole. I bet there are some people in the area that have been unemplyed for 5+ years, that are now blaming the recession. Now the Govt's hands are pretty much tied together. There is no other way, except for creating jobs with Govt money. Doing that brings us round and round to where we are. It's really sad for the hard working people looking for work now, but they are the inevitable casualties of a failed system.

Must be mine, it's OK now, but a bit slow.

It's gone down now

He seems to have declined mine as well. I really wanted the answer to Mr Pete S, asking him to get some players in and gamble for the top flight.

I've sent 2 in as well.

My obsevvations were that Cameron did ok. The question to Red Ed of "what would you have done", is clever and simple. It takes the sting out of any questions.These things are never black and white, but the "would you have signed" will play well with most voters. It is a win-win question for Cameron, and the type of tactic that Blair used to use to such good effect. Cleggy did a Gordon Brown and vanished, pretty poor form, particulary when a weekend opinion poll showed 49% of Lib/Dem supporters back Cameron's stance. Again shows how out of his depth Cleggy is, you have to man up in these situations. As a person who wants to withdraw from the EU I was glad that the Tory loyalists behaved. All this bulldog, Churchillian ect referneces are embarressing and put voters off. They gave Cameron an easy ride and realised today was not the day to push him.

My boy has just come home from school well exicted. Seems that Gus Poyet & The Premiership trophy were visiting local schools in Poole today. He said that Poyet was great, signed his football and had a chat with him about Saints. My boy told him that he was a supporter and at the Saints Brighton game. Poyet said, Saints deserved to be top, and will go up. My boy also asked him if Adkins left would Gus like to manage Saints, He's reply was " I dont think so". His mate then said "what about Chelsea"? and Poyet replied "absolutely, yes tomorrow if possible". He said Poyet was fantastic, so perhaps in private he's a decent bloke.

All this nonsense over the past few days has not changed the one important fact in all this. The Euro is still ****ed. There were fiscal rules written into the maastricht treaty, that were fiddled by The Greeks, or just ignored in the case of Germany and France. The Euro will never suvive in it's present form. Where we are heading is the worst of all worlds. Poor countries hamstrung by the rules and unable to set their own policies or devalue to promote growth, and Germany unwilling to underwrite the debts of the Eurozone. It's all very good Cleggy and Red ED rallying against Cameron, but they aviod the simple facts. Had the economic conditions been different both would have had us in this useless currency. Both have refused to rule out joining in future, and the majority of British people are nearer the Tory's view on Europe than theirs. Had Europe listened to people like Redwood, IDS and Bill Cash in the first place, we wouldn't be in this mess. Europe is in this mess because it made a political decision, supported by some useful idiots like Clarke Hestletine and Patten, along with all the Lib/dems and most of the Labour party to embark on a journey which would lead to this inevitable car crash that threatens the world's economy. Instead of slagging Cameron off, the French, German and other Euro nutters, should be holding their hands up, apoligising to their peoples and asking the UK's advise on getting out of this mess. They got it spectacularly wrong, yet put their head in the sand and try to give advise to the people who got it right, bizzare.

To be in the EU, or to be out of the EU........There's only one way to find out.....................FIGHT..............Sory I mean referendum.

Personally, I dont think 32,000 is enough and should be looking around 40,000-45,000. Whether it';s finacially viable to spend that much money to add 8,000 is something the club will obviously look at. By increasing the away attendance and having a sensible pricing policy I see no reason why we couldn't get between 32,000 & 40,000 for most PL games, and sell 40,000 for about 12 of them, but that obviously depends on who is in the Premiership and other such stuff. Take Boxing day for example, we sold 32,000 for Exeter, so would sell 40,000 for say Fulham. If Reading, Skates or Brighton were up, that would possible sell out. Add the Man U's, Chelsea, Spurs, liverpool's to the mix, plus important relegation battles or hopefully Europa league battles and it does become viable. Obvioulsy, nobody knows for sure, and I dont quite see why people are getting so hot and bothered about a little bit of ambition.

The X-Factor is actually more democratic than The EU. You get a vote, and even if it's the "wrong" vote, you dont get told to vote again until you get it right.

Spot on. The best way to sum up what's going is “The euro is the disease, not the patient.”, wise words from Roger Helmer MEP. The Euro is just not credible without a bona fide federal Europe. I'm sure deep down the Euro nutters who support the EU know this. The Euro is just a stepping stone towards that goal. They'll grab more power this time, and when the crisis blows up again, they'll grab a little bit more. Every single thing Europe has done in the past 40 years has been about creeping towards that goal, but without frightening the horses into a referendum.

You've got to laugh at someone who complains that Mail readers are d..ckheads and then in the same post writes "the jury is still out on the Euro". Even Jacques Delores has said it was "doomed to failure", perhaps he's a rabid right wing Mail reader. The Euro nutters you speak of are surely the people that went ahead and rammed the Euro through and threatened the World's economy? Brown was for the Euro in principle, it was just the timing he objected to. The people who were proved right were the people who were opposed to it in principle. Were against it, full stop. Not the people who supported it for Europe and supported The UK's entry when the cycle was right. They were wrong and have been proved wrong.

Who are the loony right then? I presume you mean people like Redwood & Bill Cash. People who read The Telegraph and The Mail. In other words the people who were right all along about the Euro.These were people who were against The Euro Full Stop. Against Greece, France Germany, Ireland joining a single currency. How on earth did previous PM's like Major, Blair and Brown look after our interests? Looking after our interests would have been spelling out to the nations of Europe that a single currency was unworkable, our interests would have been served by holding back our money until they abandoned the idea, of threatening to withdraw from the Eu until it was shelved. How on earth was our best interests served by smilling like happy ****ing idiots, while Greece, Ireland, Spain Italy and the like signed a death pact?. We went along with this stupid proposal, just a long as we weren't in it (although some wanted to be). This has gone beyond the stage of whether the UK should have joined the Euro, it should never have been put in place in the first place. The UK's best interests were for there to have been no Euro.Only the "loony right" as you call them (with a few notable Labour supporters) were against the whole thing from day one.

Makes you laugh how all the Euro loons were SO wrong that the Euro has to stay together at all costs, other wise it will wreck the world's ecomony. After the ERM fiasco how could anyone seriously beleive that The Euro was a good thing? But there were and continue to be people who are pro Euro, Nick Clegg for one. Even Red Ed has not ruled out joining it, saying "it depends how long I'm PM for". How can anyone take these jokers seriously on anything to do with the Euro? Thankfully there were people like William Hague, John Redwood and Tony Benn pointing out the obvious to the British people, along with papers like The Sun, Telegraph, Mail and Express, who were right all along. Even the last Labour administration were trying desperately to join http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3024010.stm Now, Labour likes to spin that Brown kept us out, but he was in favour of the Euro "in principle". The point is that the Euro has turned out to be bad for Greece, Italy, Ireland and now the rest of the World. The whole thing was wrong. Brown was never against The Euro, just against The UK joining at that particular time. He was wrong just as much as the other Euro loons. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-183941/Brown-backs-euro-entry-time-right.html Now what you'll notice is that the same people who backed the Euro (and I'm not just talking about UK membership) are the same people who tell us how important it is we remain in the EU. The same people are against leaving the EU and the people who were right are the ones, in the main, wanting us to leave (or at least roll back to a Trading bloc). The pro Euro's judgement just can not be trusted, they were proved so wrong about the Euro.So on what basis does that make them right about the consequences of leaving the Eu?

Manchester Utd only won 5 away games last season, and they won the league.

I haven't watched the programme, may sit down and do so later. In my working lifetime there have been a couple of things that have led us to where we are IMO. The first is the ease of credit. When I first started working, mortgages were hard to come by. You had to save a deposit and then the Building Society would consider lending you some of their investment funds. This all changed when they were allowed to borrow money on the wholesale money markets. Unleashed by Mrs Thatcher, the Building Societies became more like banks and at the same time council house sales gave equity to people who never really had it before (not saying that was a bad thing). The demutualization of the building societies with the bribe of "free" money, created the monsters we have today. In the early 80's you could only remortgage or have a further advance for house improvements. Receipts had to be provided and it was tightly regulated. For the past 25 years people have been able to realease equity for any reason and houses became "investments" for everyday people. At the same time house prices were rising and credit cards, bank loans and store cards became the normal wasy of paying for stuff, rather than saving. If my mum and Dad wanted a holiday, they saved X amount each week, until they had enough to go on holiday. If in the meantime they're washing machine, or boiler broke, the money for a new one would come out of the holiday fund, delaying the holiday. Nowadays, I'd stick it on my card. The ease of credit was not just confined to households, but Govt's as well. Politicans seemed to think growth would be never ending, and if there was a recession, it would be a 80's recession, where we came out quickly and growth took off again. Brown was quite clearly the major follower of this, remember "no more boom and bust". So his spending policies were all made around continued boom. He was like the householders of this country, spending all our wages, without a thought for the future because we'd always have jobs and we'd always have easy credit. The problem as I see it, is that we can never go back to my parents time of saving . People (myself included) seem to be unwilling to go without stuff because we cant really afford it. And the problem is, that if we did, then that would hit demand and hit the economy. The truth of the matter is that we are in a situation that no politican can control. Had we followed Darling's plan, we would still be having the same conversation.

So Lord Hutton a former Labour minister tasked with looking at pensions says that the Govt deal is "perfectly credible". Flys in the face of what the Brothers have been saying, and now shows how irresponsible the "strike" was. "The former pensions minister told BBC Radio 4's The World This Weekend that his original assessments about the sustainability of future pension arrangements had been too optimistic."- I lost count of the number of posters on here, who quoted Hutton saying they were sustainable. As circumstances have changed, he's changed his mind. A sensible approcach to any problem. He says "we could be heading for the rocks unless we make adjustments now." In light of this, the Brothers should sign the generous deal and thank their lucky stars they've still got a pension based on their salary.And the Labour party should get out the pockets of the unions, and tell it how it is. Even that old leftie Kinnock stood up to them more then Red Ed is...........

Are we going to have this every time we lose a game?

****ing hell, what do people expect, that we win every game? I dont know how we played as I wasn't there,(obviously we sounded poor), but I'd take Adkins tactical nous over Dave Merrington's anyday. I nearly chucked my radio out the window when he kep banging on about Barnard. The bloke hasn't played for months, yet Merrington seems to think he's the answer to everything. At the end of the day, we are still 2 points clear and West Ham had a winnable home game. As silly as it sounds I would rather lose to bottom sides than give our rivals 3 points. Lets see how Boro get on in Bristol tonight before we start slitting our wrists and moaning about losing to bottom sides. Both City and Donny have new Managers and in Donny's case have brought in some Premiership players. This is a tough League and every single one of us would have taken this position before the season started.