Lord Duckhunter

At the risk of being sworn at, I would like to point something out. Harold Wilson Ted Heath Jim Callaghan Maggie Thatcher John major I believe every single one went to a grammar school. None were born with a silver spoon in their mouth and all rose to the highest elected office in the land. That is 33 years of state educated pm's, what an example of the positive effects state education can have on mobility. Yet now the last generation of grammar school educated students has gone, what are we left with. A privately educated ellite , who surround themselves with clones and doubles of themselves. The crossmans of the world certainly made a difference , they turned the clock back to an era where gentlemen ruled and us peasants knew our place.

Classy. Why don't you answer the question instead of throwing insults around? Why is social mobility so low in this country, it cant all be the fault of the Tory party?

Well whose fault was it then? let me guess, the Nasty Tory Party. Why is social mobility so low in this Country, and why was it higher when we had Grammar Schools?

Perhaps we should have taught them correctly in the first place, when they were at school.

Well 3 ex Chancellors ( one Labour, 2 Tory) disagree with you. All 3 have said they are in favour of withdrawal, I would have thought they would know a bit more about the international markets than you or I.

Guy who broke the story, Tony Evans on Brazil breakfast show now. Says NC sharp and ambitious. Said a couple of premier league owners have been singing his praises , said mahwhinny speaks very highly of saints. Said trust are re thinking their approach. Ended up by saying "Southampton face a very uncomfortable summer" Don't shoot the messenger, just repeating what he said. But he was guy who broke story

Good point, I never really looked at it that way. " set in their 50's ways" is quite a good description of my parents. Although they were young, mum had me at 17 in the early 60's, she was from a very old fashioned family, my father although young had elderly parents for those times, his mum being 40 when she had him. I guess what I was trying to say is that at 50 odd im a lot "younger" than 50 year olds were in 1960. The outpouring of creativity was amazing , but did anything change for the over 30's , cause they sure look old fashioned in that apple building clip.

In what way does my sentance " Governments of the past 20 years" imply that it is all labours fault. I just find it rather bizare that we have million young people out of work, yet have to rely on immigrants to fill gaps in the job market. Surely there is only a handful of professions where it would just not be possible to recruit British people. I just do not except that shortages are caused by people not wanting to be nurses. I belive there are plenty of Yong adults that have the empthy and the willingness to enter the nursing profession, they just lack the education to do so. My mrs went back to night school to get the a levels needed to do her midwifery degree. Her schooling was so bad she left with no qualifications at all, and yet now she has a rewarding and sucsessful career as a midwife. She only managed to acheive this with her own drive and determination, but also because my wage could support the family. How many others are there like that, who have fallen through the cracks but aren't so lucky in having a spouse that can afford that?

Lets see who are the idiots at the next European elections. The euro fanatic lib/dems, the pro European labour party or the Euro sceptic torys and anti european Ukip. last time the vote was Tory, Ukip ,labour, lib Dems in that order. This time it could be Ukip, Tory, labour, lib Dems. For all your waffle about idiot wings and the like, the order at European elections is defined by how euro fanatic you are. The most pro European partys get the least votes.and I've no doubt the same thing will happen next year. The country is heading out of the union, its just a question of when, not if. The reason we are heading out is because the establishment did not tell us the truth, did not get the publics approval for the transfer of powers over the years and dictated to,in stead of taking the British public with them. The genie is out of the bottle now and there's no putting it back in.

I always thought that NC would eventually buy out the Trust, raising the money through other investors. One thing for sure is that letting the club wither on the vine and eventually go down can not be an option for the family, unless they're complete and utter morons. The way I look at it, their options are thus; 1. Let NC continue and follow his "vision". 2. Sell up and now must be the time for maximum profit 3. Follow Fulham, Stoke , WBA model and remain a midtable Premier league club bringing in a steady income, but never over stretching themselves chasing a dream. Good seasons, we may have a good cup run, bad seasons a relegation fight. All 3 options are attractive in their own way and would certainly be better than we ever could of dreamed of 5 years ago. My personal choice would be a NC led consortium buys out the family . The Fulham option is basically a return to Rupert without that plum at the helm, but I don't blame anyone for wanting that option. I've no idea what's actually going on, but if I had to wager on it I would say that the family don't want to fund NC's exotic dream and he's not prepared to have his ambitions tempered. The next level is very very expensive, Villa spent millions and couldn't do it. Unless NC is planning on developing a Chelsea Village type complex , waterfront development and retail outlets, I really cant see how the family are expected pour limitless funds into a project which is a massive gamble, with no guarantee of any sort of success. What is certain is that the next level can not be achieved by using money generated solely by the Football club.

The Lib/Dems really do have a problem with pledges, first tuition fees now this.

I would say it's a logical conclusion of poor education and a lack of joined up thinking from Governments the past 20 years. We have a million young people out of work and we have shortages in the NHS. If, as the post you replied to said, Labour made an effort to attract Nurses/Doctors from overseas why didn't they make a particular effort to educate and persuade British students to become Doctors and Nurses? Then when the overseas people left, we would have the young people with the skills to fill those roles. 1 million youth unemployed, a hole in the NHS workforce, yet it's all the fault of an immigration clampdown?

The Tory faithful were blinded by "Dave" , they wanted a Tony Blair clone. They ****ed up by binning DD

Watching that clip takes me back to an interview I heard with John Lennon in which he claimed the swinging sixties was a myth for most people. He said there was a few hundred hip people , but the rest of the country were still "squares". If you look at the people in the clip he has a point. Bloke with a pipe, bowler hatted types and the police look like something out of the 1950's. The 60's passed a lot of people by, my old fella said to me he was too busy working and raising us to enjoy it. Looking at the clip of the crowd and it does seem that the ordinary man is so much more chilled and not so uniformed nowadays.

I had always bought into this " Gove's a tool" line pedalled by others until I saw him on Question Time, he came across as passionate about education, self deprecating, polite and honest. He seemed to go down quite well with the audience, who seemed to warm to him. He has an unfortunate manner about him, but I was quite impressed with him and extremely impressed with his desire to improve educational standards.

Lallana , Maloney, or both?

A pitch invasion should be a spontaneous outpouring of joy at going up, winning something, getting to the play off final or staying up etc . We're going to look like a right noddy club if we have one , especially if we lose Sunday. Last week Man Utd and Everton were on match of the day and got the tone just right, lets hope we manage to do the same. I'm sure the players will be embarrassed as well.

When Ukip top the European elections next year, what's your excuse going to be then. You can't use the excuse that people are only hearing one side of the debate as the whole debate will be about European issues. You can't hide behind number of seats won, as the vote is proportional. People like you are going to have to find some really ingenious ways of spinning the pathetic results the pro EU lib/dems and labour will achieve.

Although he had a bit of a shocker last night, I've always rated Scharner. He's pretty versatile and is a good old pro, the type I think you need round the club as a squad man. Not going to happen as he doesn't fit the profile we seem to go for. People like samba , Remy, waste of time. One from qpr , is Townsend , i know he's a spurs player, but maybe if they make champions league they may go up a level in terms of signings and he becomes surplus. Don't see anyone at Reading. I would take Maloney any day. One ex Wigan guy I would take a punt on is Hugo Rodallega, I think he'd fit into our style and I jol isn't getting the best out if him at Fulham.

I didn't think 39 would be enough and I'm glad I was proved wrong. Instead of all this Wigan love in from the media, Niall Quinn sounded like he wanted to have Dave whelans love child on sky, their supporters should be asking questions of their players and management. To play like they did against Swansea and then perform so well Saturday and for 60 minutes Tuesday, would seriously **** me off if I was a Wigan fan. When you look at sheite like Norwich and Sunderland the past month, you have to wonder how they didn't catch them up. Unlucky against spurs, but Swansea home should have been a Ginnie. Total bottle job from them that night. We went down and west brom and Bryan Robson were dog turd, and they must feel the same way in the cold light of day.

Crow's position has been known for ages, he was on QT months back and basically has the same position as Nigel F. Uncontrolled mass immigration from poor Eastern European states is harming the job prospects and wages of ordinary unskilled/low skilled British workers. Just goes to show that no matter how hard the BBC and establishment try to portray it as a right wing "golf club" issue , it's a lot more fluid than that.

Peach on Talk sport; Cortese wants backing for his ambitions. Libherr's don't understand football and don't understand his ambitions. Peach reckons he is capable of delivering. Need high profile signings to deliver Cortese's plans Have been suggestions that the family may sell, but he'd be surprised. Devolopments (possible) today and things maybe ironed out and Nicola may stay,

Discussing it on Hawksbee and Jackobs now. Simon Peach

Surely someone with a bit more wit than me could sort out an original chant for him. He's got a girls name ffs, surely a terrace wit could do something with that. I don't really sing much.I'm happy with owts, wtfiln and clapping , with the occasional come on you reds thrown in. But don't mind what others sing , its a free country. Just wish they were a bit more original.

You can't beat WTFILN for the skates. Sums it up totally, take a song of there's, and give it a twist. It works because its so close to the mark. I don't mind this new one, its ok , but id hate WTF to die out.