Lord Duckhunter

The problem will be increased by our lack of defensive cover out wide midfield. Neither Adam or Puncheon offer much cover to the full back, so any newbie or player out of position could get really exposed. Guly does a half decent job out there but he's injured and JRod works hard, but that's it.

Their last 4 were tougher than their next 4. Away at Man C, West Ham, QPR, and then home to Spurs is harder than West Brom, Swansea, Arsenal and Villa. Here's 5 results in a row from end of March to April last year that led them to safety . Liverpool 1 – 2 Wigan Athletic Wigan Athletic 2 – 0 Stoke City Chelsea 2 – 1 Wigan Athletic Wigan Athletic 1 – 0 Manchester United Arsenal 1 – 2 Wigan Athletic Anyone who underestimates Wigan has their head in the sand. How many other sides looked at us and thought "we're safe Southampton wont pick up enough points" in the 1990's . Sheffield Utd have gone down twice when only needing draws in their last game, so it does happen.

You can quote all the %'s in the world, but the simple fact is if Villa win on Sat and we lose (entirely possible 2 results) we'll be below Villa. Will Villa fans be sat thinking "we're safe", will the BBC report say Villa are now safe? Wigan's next 2 are Swansea and West Brom, hard but winnable from a team that beat Man utd and other top sides in their escapes the last couple of years. Of course Norwich will still be below us, but is it possible for them to beat WBA at home? I'd say it was. Sat's win meant they've won 2 away games in 9 and in that was a defeat at Reading. Any team that can lose at Reading are quite capable of getting beat at Norwich. Throw into the mix Newcastle playing QPR,Sunderland having 2 winnable home games, and that's why I'm slightly uneasy about the run in . A perfectly reasonable set of results could mean it going to the last day, would you still be so confident then? Will you be confident and quoting %'s when we're 1 ahead of Wigan and below everyone else. So the reason I felt that we really needed Villa to lose was that I cant see Wigan being above us before the last day, so if Villa aren't either we cant go down. Yesterdays result moved that likelihood further away than the 0.112% or whatever other nonsense %'s you want to quote.

they are 7 points behind and I can see them beating Swansea, west brom and villa. We really needed villa to lose last night as they both can't win the shootout at the end of the season. Really need Norwich to do them sat, because unless they get a point from Chelsea or Wigan get a point from arsenal we can all enjoy last day. Of course we could get something from spurs or Sunderland,but I've got a real bad feeling about them

Wigan's game in hand is Swansea at home, not man c. Wigan are capable of stringing results together and getting out of this. Newcastle play qpr. pretty much a gimmie Sunderland have stoke and us at home, however bad they were tonight can you really see them losing both of them. They played well at Chelsea, beat everton and Newcastle, last night could have been a blip. The thread was about the best result for Southampton tonight and villa winning was not it. If they win sat it drops norwich right in it, but it takes away the villa/wigan last day safety net we had. Villa could lose that and still finish above us.

I would prefer to be safe as early as possible, how on earth does a villa win make us safer. Villa lose the next 2 and the only way we can go down is if Wigan win their next 3, one of which is arsenal away. The sooner Wigan or villa can't catch us the better.

We need a back up left back, and spend a bit of money on a Centre half that will walk straight into the team. I'm happy with one of Jose or Yoshida provided there's a top quality player beside them. Not too concerned about Centre mid. Cork MS and SD with Ward-Prowse as back up is ok for me. Need a bit of pace out wide and a striker as Rickie isn't going to get any better at his age and there's been times he's struggled. Other than that we evolution rather than revolution. The 3 sides coming up will struggle and Norwich, Wigan/Villa or Sunderland aren't going to get any better than us, and Fulham look like a side going over the hill to me.. I cant see WBA or Swansea being as strong next year, so provided Cortese is sensible we could be up around 9/10th ready to push on again.

Spot on, How can anyone want Villa within 2 points of us, especially if Wigan go on a run like they can and have done before .

Did anyone see MOTD 2 last night? Les Ferdinand and Michael Owen roasting Bosingwa for his attitude, "look at him" said Les "they're relegated and he goes done the tunnel smiling". Here's the clip, funny how nothing said about Redknapp who really seems to be enjoying it as much as Bosingwa, if not more. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22314331

Trevor Birch is on Keys and Grey's talksport show tomorrow at midday.

Nobody is saying that at all. However, anyone who doesn't think Wigan can beat WBA & Swansea, doesn't think Villa can beat Sunderland and Norwich, doesn't think Sunderland can beat us at home is deluded. If god forbid Norwich also beat West Brom & Newcastle beat QPR, we'll be going into the last game of the season needing something or preying that Villa beat Wigan, will people still be talking about 1% and other such nonsense in those circumstances?

This is what I've been saying, it's nowhere near as clear as 1% or other such nonsense. If Villa beat Sunderland at home then I cant see how the the9 can have us at 1% and them at 35% bearing in mind there will only be a 2 point difference. Perhaps the9 can give us the %'s if Villa win at home on Mon?

We're 150/1 to go down, what will we be if Villa win on Monday to close the gap to 2 points between them and us?

Twitchys getting roasted by some journo on Talksports The Press Pass. He said "Redknapps blamed the pitch, the players, Mark Hughes, the agents, and the owners for paying high wages in fact the only person not taking any blame is Harry Redknapp, the manager with a 16% win ratio".

I thought "Sanchez is right" was one of the stupidest phrases I've read on here, but you then managed to get even more idiotic after that.

That's it, I've just put a £5 on my results to soften the blow IF a freak set of results. £5,865.50 will be the winnings. I'm hoping my £5 goes up in smoke tomorrow.

I hope you're right, I just have a real nasty feeling about this. I genuinely cant seeing getting anything from Spurs and Sunderland, so it's all down to what Wigan and Villa do. Wigan are capable and Villa have a half decent forward line. Really could do with Sunderland turning them over Mon, but that'll mean 3 in a row and I really cant see that. Draw maybe the best we can hope for, which will leave Villa 4 behind with 3 to play. If Villa draw Mon , with them having Chelsea and Wigan, and Wigan having Arsenal, I'll start to relax as it'll start to look pretty impossible for both to pip us. In the meantime I'm going to worry, if that's ok with everyone.

We were good enough to beat City and Chelsea yet bad enough to lose to QPR, so yes Sunderland are capable of losing to Villa then beating us. I'm not saying it will happen, but I will start to get a bit twitchy if Villa win Monday. Everyone has mid table "on the beach" teams to play and that worries me. Only getting 1 point from Swansea and WBA (however well they played) has left me a bit more nervous than I should be and I would much prefer Stoke (our last really winnable match) not being last day. I still think we'll be ok, but we're not as safe as some seem to think.

Spurs 1-0 Saints Villa 1-0 Sunderland Norwich 0-1 Villa WBA 0-1 Wigan Wigan 1-0 Swansea Sunderland 1-0 Southampton Norwich 1-0 WBA QPR 0-1 Newcastle Would mean last day Norwich 41 Newcastle 40 Sunderland 40 Villa 40 Saints 39 Wigan 38 Forget about the 1-0, but the results aren't that far fetched. If Wigan beat Villa last day and we will need a point home to Stoke. Ok, we'd have taken that in Oct, but not 3 games ago.

Want QPR to win. However unlikely it is if they're still not down with 2 games to go Newcastle going to Loftus Road looks a hell of a lot harder. West Ham away, Arsenal at home and QPR on the back of 2 wins is a pretty tough run in.

Are people saying this is why Shaw's out? Doesn't really make sense . Utd sign Wilfred Zaha and then let him stay at Palace, but agree to sign Shaw but don't let him play for Saints?

Does that include our players, because AL and GR go down pretty easy and J Rod clearly dived at Villa?

Wigan's next 2 are the big ones. WBA and Swansea, win them and it's going to get tight. The thing that makes me a bit more at ease is Villa-Wigan on the last day, as they both cant get 3 points. I've just got a feeling that they'll both need 3 to overtake us, so we should be ok. If you look at the fixtures there's a lot of sides playing each other, so even if Villa win the next 2, they're against Sunderland and Norwich.

Fox was unprofessional. The game was lost and he was already on a yellow,diving in like that was just what I call a "look at me" challenge. He was just trying to show the crowd how "committed" he was. Selfish, headless challenge when he knows Shaw is struggling. I've defended Fox a bit on here, I don't think he's quite as bad as people make out, but that was indefensible.

Glen Campbell