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What's this - surely not a lie... The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the man made climate change hoax are inextricably linked and by the very fact you are so completely hoodwinked you are a frontline footsoldier for the 10th crusade. This is a war without weapons, but a war none the less. It's a masterstroke by the ruling elite to employ the left winger eco warrior types like they have. Britain ruled India by using the age old ploy of divide and conquer, this latest plan trumps even that for it's ingenuity.

This is a fact. The trends follow each other so closely it's logical to say that sun spots are the reason for the temperature changes. I'm now bowing out of this debate. Ignorance is bliss and i'm afraid those who believe in the MMGB myth will never be convinced by facts, rather they'll contnue to believe what they are told to believe.

I'm amazed that a 77 year old can work a computer! Fair play to you Old Codger - you have my upmost respect. I like the bit about the Southerers wearing trilbys and the Northerners wearing flat caps. It just goes to show we've always had more fashion sense.

That's a bit rich coming from someone so self opinionated and full of himself.

Perhaps i was wrong to tease our socialist/left wing sheep, but the fact remains that it is this gullible and naive section of society that have been snared hook line and sinker. Let me reiterate that the man made global warming myth is a necessary lie because we do need to neutralise the threat posed by the oil producing nations and we do need to fight back against emerging economies. It's just highly amusing that it is the tree huggers that are the ones who are the foot soldiers for this latest crusade between west and east. In your final paragraph you rightly stated that "going green" is going to cost us billions, but there is no alternative other than surrendering to the oil producers and emerging economies. In years to come historians will look back at the man made globl warming myth and will ask how so many were duped, but they will also state that without the brainwashed and naive subscribers to MMGW the west would have failed.

2001 was a very good year for wine. I particularly recomend "Marques de Caceres Rioja Reserva 2001". This is the best Rioja you will ever drink.

Saints George's opinions, backed up by his own research, mirror my own views on climate change. Unlike the majority on this thread (who invariably happen to be left wingers/socialists), St G and myself have listened to the debate, and looked at the evidence and made our own judgements based upon myriad information. There is a saying “Eagles fly alone, but sheep flock together” and without wanting to patronise it’s crystal clear that the majority of those who have obediently fallen into line behind the man made climate change myth are sheep. The graphs St G has pasted up are not opinion open for debate, they are facts. There is an indisputable correlation between sun spot activity and the temperatures on Earth. Note how the blue line and the red lines strangely follow. Mmmm now let me see does this mean that those dirty fumes from cars and factories have affected sun spot activity? Get real guys and look at the facts - not the spin from the left wingers and socialists. So why are western governments pushing this lie? Well it’s a good ploy to force a new tax on the masses, but also consider the question of oil reserves and the ancient battle between Christendom and Islam. OK so nowadays we are more secular (at least in the west) in our thinking, but the old crusade for wealth and power continues. With the growth of the economies of India and China, and the rising power held by middle eastern oil producing states, we in the west cannot sit idly by and simply let the old world order be superseded by an eastern new world order. In days gone by we would have gone to war to protect our interests, but times have changed and the best way of protecting our interests is take the power away from the oil producing states by making sure we don’t need vast amounts of oil to fuel our economies. This is why the man made global warming myth is being pushed - so that we develop and use renewable energy sources that we can produce ourselves. I do not dispute that the fight to suppress the middle east and developing world is a noble cause, and I do not deny it’s essential for sheep (the left wingers and socialists) to believe and to peddle the myth. In fact without the sheep the west is doomed to fall like so many empires and civilisations have done before, but that doesn’t mean that we all should be hoodwinked, brainwashed and naïve. Thinking about it the man made global warming myth has striking similarities to the bible or the Koran. It’s amazing that in the 21st century humanity has not changed at all and the flock are still blindly following the shepherds. In fact the left wing/socialists might as well go the whole hog and adopt this song as their battle cry… It is ironic that those that argue so much against the crusader mentality are in fact it’s fiercest disciples and that the most ardent socialists/left wingers are in fact the most subjugated of all.

Climate change is not man made, it's a natural phenomenon that has always occured. Furthermore climate fluctuations happen quickly i.e over decades as oposed to over thousands of years as proved by the warm spell of the 14th century and the cold spell of the 18th century, not mention the Ice age we suposedly entering in the 70's. But hey who are we to argue with a Socialist excuse for yet another stealth tax?

Teams of players very rarely give 100% in games. Quantifying the effort in %age terms isn't an exact science, but for arguments sake let's say most teams give 80% most games. A week ago we'd have played Brighton and they'd have given 70% and we'd have given 80% and we'd have won. If Brighton had given 80% and we'd given 80% we would still have won because we are better than them. With Brighton having a new manager they gave 100% whilst we gave our usual 80% and they made up for their disadvantage and won the game. AP is a shrewd man and he will have warned the players that they needed to play at 100% to win, but they didn't and they will learn from Sundays defeat. I fully expect us to be focussed for our next game and normal service will be resumed.

At last, someone makes a sensible post. Too much emphasis is put on formations on here. If we're playing Lambert, Connelly and Lallana we've essentially got 3 players who can hit the back of the net and as such we are playing 3 up front every game anyway.

19C hates Matt Le Tissier for the same reason he idolises Rupert Lowe - it gets him attention. As for the underlying reasons for him doing this it's pretty obvious the guy has a problem.

Dissapointing result, but i saw it coming. After our run of good results you can only put it down to one of those days. We will bounce back because this team of ours are winners and they'll learn from it.

It's such a shame that yet another good thread gets hijacked by the attention seeking headcase.

Cheers Phil, it's threads like these that make this forum such a great asset. Matt is a true gent and a legend.

Ask yourself this - how many replies would 19C get to his posts if he was anti Lowe, supported MLT, Lawrie and Leon? The answer is very few. So 19C who's your next victim - Marcus Liebherr, Ted Bates, Ron Davies? Oooooh think of the replies you'd get if you slagged them off.

19C's puts a good argument across, but when you consider worships Rupert Lowe (as part of his act) it shows him up for his true colours. I do not even believe he is as rabidly anti MLT, Lawrie or LC as he makes out (although it ties in with his act because they are his perceived enemies of Lowe) - it's just that holding such polar views [to the overwhelming majority] are a means to get attention.

If there's 8 teams left this is the quarter finals. I'm very happy with the draw - should be a good game.

I didn't think it's be long until the forum weirdo ruined another thread.

You are a dispicable creature.

I'd like to see Franny back at the club in some capacity. He was a loyal servant and i think loyalty should be rewarded. Also he's a top man and i'm sure he'd be highly respected.

Assuming Nicola reads this forum i wonder what his judgement would be on you. I would imagine he regards you and your warped views like the vast majority that post on here. Lawrie is manager that brought us good times and decent Saints fans hold him in high regard. Matt Le Tissier is a legend. A hero to all Saints fans. Leon Crouch wears his heart on his sleeve, made some mistakes, but everyone recognises that he cares passionately about Saints and that he is a good man. Yet you spend your pitiful life posting on here slagging all of the above mentioned people off. At the same time you worship the most hated man in the history of Southampton FC. So 19C what do you suppose Nicola's opinion would be of you?

If rumours are to be believed he is the reason that Marcus Liebherr and Nicola Cortese are at our club - for this we all owe him a big thankyou. That said he does have one of those faces i'd love to punch.

Connelly oozes quality at this level. In fact our whole team would cope quite well in the Championship. Compare this to last season when we would have struggled in the Blue Square and it's amazing how far we've come.

Nice one mate, this is the first time a stream has ever worked for me.:smt008

19C i pity you. You obviously need pysciatric help.