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We need a new CB and if we're going to keep Jaidi then we need to lose Seaborne or Martin. Having 5 CBs on the books is just a waste and a drain on resources.

What's odd is that Deppo actually knew that. He just thinks it's funny to pretend otherwise for some reason.

My life is sad and completely meaningless. As such I found myself watching Dave late one night and they were showing a very average comedy called 'Krod Mandoon and the Flaming Sword of Fire'. There was one highlight however. Miss India De Beaufort

A woman with 6 tits would just look like a big fat b*tch. It's completely unethical.

The 80s were sh*te. We had Chernobyl, The Challenger exploding and Spandau Ballet.

I saw in Primary school, so I don't remember a lot. Goldeneye on the Nintendo 64 was pretty good. There was Matt Le Tiss and his inexplicable exclusion from the England squad. Jurrasic Park was released. So were the Home Alone films. Damon Hill, he was good too. Simon Cowell hadn't been invented, altough we couldn't actually appreciate that at the time. Then on the downside we had Babylon Zoo. Not bad overall.

It is your responsibility as a parent (with help from schools) to make your kids aware of the consequences. I'm not being personal, it's the same for every parent. If I have kids one day, I will consider it my duty to warn my kids of the effects of drugs. What I absolute would not being doing is saying to myself, "it's okay, drugs are illegal, there is no way my kids would take them" What about tabacco and alcohol. Do your kids lie awake at night dreaming of the day they're old enough to go out and get hammered and smoke 40 a day? How do you feel about that? They could sniff glue or paint thinners to get high. Are you kept awake at night wondering if your kids have been on the airfix, yet you sleep soundly knowing they will never try weed because it's illegal? The vibe I'm getting from you is fear. I think it's the whole problem. People are so afraid of drugs that they are blinkered to any change, not to mention the current problem we have with the legal system.

Because alcohol was under very short supply under prohibition. It was so much harder to hide that a couple of ecstacy pills. You can't shove a pint of lager up your arse in a condom. Nowadays you can pick up drugs at any high school party or behind a night club.

As several people have pointed out on several occasions, experience has proven this to be completely untrue. Which backs up the 'legalise it' argument entirely Which is clearly of no deterant what-so-ever to anyone who wants to abuse drugs. And having a taxable, government drug supply would pay for their rehabilitation 100 times over. We agree on something at least.

WTF?! Are you deliberately pretending to be thick so you don't have to counter my point? I'm not saying Lisboa isn't a sh*t hole. I'm sure you're right. It's probably an absolute dump, but what is it that makes you think this is down to the legalisation of drugs. I used to live in Amsterdam. Walked round it in the middle of the night a couple of times. Sat in the park drinking beer. Not once did I feel in any way under threat that some stoner might come and mug me. 'most everyone I saw was completely normal. Guess who the antisocial nutjobs were? That's right. British tourists. Perfectly put.

That's just plain wrong. It's been shown in every example I've seen that drug use has declined in countries where it is legal. Answer me this question honnestly: Have you EVER met ANYONE who had said, or implied, "I'd love to smoke weed/shoot up heroine/snort cocaine, but I'm not going to because it's illegal."

Marseille - drugs are illegal - Sh*t hole Detroit - drugs are illegal - Sh*t hole Portsmouth - drugs are illegal - Sh*t hole You cannot claim Lisboa is a sh*thole because everyone has been stoned off their tits for 10 years. According to this article, Lisboa has actually improved. Even so, they haven't really done it properly, the drugs are still sourced illegally even if usage is legal. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/8106689.stm

So that would be two more who weren't detered by the fact that weed is illegal. Two more who gave tens of thousands of pounds to organised crime and yet never paid a penny of VAT. Here is your post with a few words changed: and again and again You can't just ban anything which has ever been abused. The key to it is in education. Making people not want to take drugs, regardless of whether they're legal or not. I can't really say this without disrespecting your friends, but they chose to smoke weed, knowing the risks and knowing it was illegal. To that extent they have no one to blame but themselves. I'm not going to patronise anyone who takes drugs. I know several people who smoke weed and they're smashing blokes. At the same time though, I wouldn't have any sympathy for them if they started suffering from the side effects. That's not to say we shouldn't help people rehabilitate themselves, but they have no right to blame society.

It does doesn't it. Shame it's nothing like what I just said. Nobody said anything about offering weaker drugs. We can offer the same stuff any street dealer does only CLEANER, ie. not cut with chalk, rat poison or whatever the feck else. As for pricing them out of it... what do you think they're paying for it at the moment. Lets say X amount of drug Y costs £5 to produce. A criminal gang would have to smuggle it around in tiny amounts in a condom shoved up their arse. As such it is very difficult to supply and they will charge £50 for it. We could sell it in shops for say £30 and take £25 in VAT from it.

So you agree then that having drugs illegal is in no way a deterant for people who choose to take them? These fecked up people, do you not feel they could benefit from drugs which weren't cut with rat poison and a completely free rehab clinic? We're not talking about giving stuff away free in packets of Corn Flakes. It would still be very expensive, it's just that the cash goes into society by way of taxes instead of criminal gangs.

Two key differences: 1. With drug usage, the only victim is the user. If you're only actually harming yourself, I fail to see why it should be a criminal offence. I don't give a rats arse what you take, it's your health. 2. If crimes like theft or even murder were legalised, rates would go up massively. Struggling to pay the council tax? Just wander into Dixons and take a couple of DVD players. Wife run off with the milkman? Just bash his head in with a cricket bat. It's a completely different kettle of fish. Legalise drugs - Massive boost to the government budget and thousands of lives are saved through clean drugs and rehab programmes Legalis drink driving - Thousands of innocent people are killed by drunk halfwits getting behind a wheel then walking out of hospital without prosecution. Don't pretend you can't see the difference. I personally think it's the same with legalised prostitution. Not the illegal 'white slave trade' that's completely unethical, but the legalised systems they have in Amsterdam. As far as I can see, that 'crime' is completely victimless. Girls get massive amounts of cash, ugly old b*stards get their end away with a woman young enough to be their daughter.

They do that anyway. FWIW I think prostitution should be legalised for a lot of the same reasons as drugs. I'm not an idealist. I don't think this would completely wipe out organised crime. Just that which is based around drug smuggling. Which is a lot.

Marlon Harewood is f**k ugly.

Which just proves why criminalising drug use doesn't work. People STILL end up taking them. It's not a question of the government just handing out drugs to everyone and saying, "here, try some of this, it's great". People will use drugs regardless, so the best we can do is: 1. Educate young people as best we can as to the effects of drugs. If they still chose to take them when they're old enough, then more fool them. 2. Ensure the supply is clean ethical. I know the idea of 'Fair Trade' opium may seem silly, but you get the idea. 3. Offer free rehabilitation to anyone with drug abuse issues. The tax from drugs would cover the cost 100 times over. 4. Practically wipe out organised crime based around drug smuggling. So many criminal organisations would have their feet swiped from under them without drug money.

I'd argue there is feck all correlation between legalisation of drugs and actual usage of drugs. I'm pretty sure the proportion of drug users in Holland is no higher than the European average. Infact it's actually less than countries such as the UK and France. These are two things I have never seen/heard/read sensationalist news stories about: - People who would be heroine addicts, but aren't because it's pwopa nawty and they don't want to break the law. - People sticking their head into a garden shredder just because garden shredders are a legal substance. Put simply, I don't think the law is a deterant. If people want to do drugs, they will. Conversely, people wont do stuff just because it's legal.

Legalise ALL drugs, then tax the feck out of it. Simple.

I'm actually embarassed that we've got this thread on here. Please can we delete it before other fans find it and take the p*ss.

Now that Osama is dead and Mladic is behind bars, I don't think it's actually possible.

It's brilliant. 14 players, including 2 youth players, 2 geriatrics and 2 more who are definitely leaving. Not to mention Ben Haim, who I'm fairly sure can't play for them because they can't afford his appearance bonus. Still, I'm sure the other 7 players are perfectly capable.

Went from bottom of the form table to 13th IIRC. Not quite sure what you were expecting, but I'd consider that a pretty good return considering he had no money to spend.