Baird of the land

But we don't need to commit to one(given greater liklihood of being poor) long term given we'll have a much wider choice of manager in the summer, just like it's much easier to get good players in the summer.

We'd probably be in a marginally better place if he'd stayed (just because Jones worked out so Bad) I'm not sure i buy into Ralph was keeping us up guaranteed. Suppose technically we weren't bottom when he left we were in a degree of freefall. 1 game later(away to Liverpool) we were bottom. You could also argue the mistake was keeping him in charge in the summer when they even admitted they thought he'd run out of road.

Reading this i was expecting his Wiki to show him having spent time at Accrington Stanley, not FC Copenhagen.

You could argue we'd be nuts to offer him a long term one given we are paying off 2 managers already.

Clearly there was always a difference in desired length. My guess both parties misread the lack of wiggle room between their positions.

Something like what? Keeping relegation respectable till the summer or becoming our long term manager. I'd argue he's fine for the former(see what Jackson did at Burnley last season), there's no data as to whether he could be the later but at least he's not an expensive falure i guess.

Given we've sacked so many, could he come in to help selles till end of the season, if that's route we go.

I don't see a loss in hope for the long-term. Not making a panicky short term gamble could be evidence of long term sane planning (Just look at Burnley, people were mocking their owners, why put a caretaker in charge etc) now look at them.

You could say the same about all the other managers people have been turning their noses up based on their poor past records. They are all 1 good job away from being geniuses. Doubt they could disappoint me more than marsch, lol, but guess we'll see.

Why would we do that? If we lose a couple under selles it is even more reason to wait & focus on getting the right man in the summer rather than making an expensive panic return to marsch.

Been avoiding footy news today as I assumed it was a done. Happy if as seems, that board refused to be bounced into a panicky long term deal.

Like lots of people i've lost a lot of faith in Sports Republic's metrics for gambling.

But he's nice and he smiles.

Yeah, I doubt he's coming on a 3 month contract, so rather than sorting it properly in the summer(like Burnley did) we'll likely meander on with Marsch and potentially waste the chance to come straight back.

Utterly dispiriting news if true. Hope i'm proved wrong and it is not another damaging appointment.

Because he also had a record of doing very well in premier league with that small team unlike Marsch.

A relegation rival sacked him a week ago for being so bad they thought he'd relegate them. He's also not got a particularly good CV which might make you look beyond that awful fact.

The point of a caretaker is to defer the decision to when decent candidates will be willing to come here rather than appointing trash now and regretting it later

I thought you were implying we could only get a failure like Marsch from your 'who do you expect us to get given our position statement' Selles is the most obvious caretaker till the end of the season.

If your statement is true(that only bad managers will take the job because we are seen to be relegated), read the room and put caretaker in charge and do a proper reset in the summer. I've already said if you are looking for pedigree Benitez stands out a mile (only failure was everton where he was despised from the off)

Ralph at least had 1 mid table finish & a vastly better record at Leipzig. What's marsch, struggle & even failed in 2 attempts to beat a saints team in freefall.

The guy has been sacked for being completely useless in the top flight, if that's what passes for proven in the top flight it is a meaningless phrase. And I do think we should be thinking ahead to where we are most likely to be playing next year not appointing the first idiot with zero substance willing to accept relegation.

Our long-term transfer strategy has been a joke, so the fact that he might have been a long time target at one point doesn’t instill the slightest flicker of confidence. Fear in a years time we’ll be sacking him for being a nice but poor manager and panicking again to try and get in play off position.

I believe I said appointing a young manager is another option. you haven’t said why you think doing the opposite of Burnley and appointing a bad candidate who will accept having relegation on his cv is preferable to doing a full summer appointment process.

Burnley put Jackson in charge and sorted the right candidate in the summer, in kompany. So gambling on a young fresh name can work, but not always . Middlesbrough had woodgate before who failed. I don’t see how that supports appointing a failure like Marsch now for championship(it more supports selles or Adkins caretaker route). If he’d at least done well in championship that might mitigate his poor managerial record in the Prem.