Saint86

Saints were in turmoil 8-10 years ago. Is it really surprising that our current 16-18year olds are not what they once were?

Jose and Pep have only ever had superstar teams or the money to buy them. Poch's teams are as good as those teams, but without the hundreds of millions that were spent. They also play cracking footy, and he develops youth players. He is a fantastic manager, and for me he is easily one of the best in the prem and the world. We'll have people arguing that pellegrini, Ranieri and mancini are better managers if we persist with this "trophies = greatness" argument.

He is arguably the best manager in the prem; and one of the best in the world as a result.

Fine, disagree; but lets keep this thread for praising the man for his contributions

I know a lot of our "fans" like to moan and attack him. But hopefully we can all agree that he truly deserves this and wish him congratulations. I personally think he is an outstanding professional and one of our best players.

I agree Billy. MP clearly has the abilities and intelligence. We just have a bunch of impatient children for fans that want us to play like Barcelona and be served up instant success. Given where we were 7years ago I think some serious perspective is needed; we have a good manager and he will prove it!

Yeah, but we have Gabbi.

That is the Chinese flag... https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=chinese+flag&oq=chinese+flag&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.2615j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Seriously.

So in summary, an embarrassing nonsense thread?

Is Bristol a derby... No. And nor is Brighton.

For me Poch is the better manager. Pep struggled massively with city last year, and failed to match any expectations set for him. The solution - chuck shed loads of dosh around all over the place to get the players and buy success. Pep has been to Bayern, Barca and City - and he has had the league's best squad at each of them. Poch has never had those luxuries and yet his team is still on par with pep's. Poch is the better manager.

What does Brighton being a "good" (debateable) city have to do with this being a hard game... Do you think we'll struggle to bring are A game because we're going to the PRIDE capital of the world?

I left before the lap of appreciation, and that was my final game as a season ticket holder. I don't boo our own, nor do I think Puel deserved that. But the football under him was completley dire and its not surprising he wasn't popular with Northam.

Whilst I agree, its a pointless argument. Can't cherry pick only good signings. Look at Martina.

Good post, generally. But lets not ignore the fact that we failed spectacularly last year; and took a team that almost got champions league football to 45points. We're not exactly in a position to brag right now.

Depends which camp you fall in. Some of our fans are delighted with an 8th place finish and a cup final Some of our fans are unhappy at only getting 45 points which most seasons would be a relegation scrap. If we don't beat last years points total then we will be in trouble this year. That is for sure.

They are grumbling about moving and expanding the stadium at the moment on POL; mainly complaining that the Electricity Substation is in the way.

They really aren't doing very well.

Fair enough, my bad. Just checked out the Everton forums. They really hate Koeman

"Others"....... Like Toby, VVD, Pelle, Tadic? Should we also grumble about Cedric because Fonte was mates with him? You could go on, but why bother when people are going to be so selective in their criticisms and pick only the worst examples... And why are you selectively leaving out players like Mayuka, Lee, Ramirez, Forster, Taylor etc etc? There are ample examples of good signings on both sides of the spectrum, really don't need to twist every post with clear club bias. As as for describing "Forte" as "Litter", we would not have got promoted without his goals, you hint at a total lack of respect and knowledge of the club's journey and where we have been with that one comment alone.

£11m payout and the Holland Job. He is laughing. Board failed him massively by failing to sell Ross, getting a cheap deal for Lukaku, and then failing to sign a centre forward. Madness from Everton. They are now saddled with a massive wage bill, a struggle for survival, and financial problems for seasons to come. Disastrous year! I should add, we are all laughing?!?!?

Southampton vs West Brom @ SMS 2017/18 - 20/6 shots / on target - Won 1-0 2016/17 - 10/1 - lost 2-1 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38424666) 2015/16 - 9/5 - won 3-1 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35270692) 2014/15 - 9/2 - drew 0-0 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/28816296) 2013/14 - 18/5 - Won 1-0 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/25600388) - Under Poch (still less attacking) Most attacking performance vs west brom by a long long way. And this vs a side that literally parked two banks of 5 in front of their goal for 90% of the match. Think fans need to put their frustrations aside, and actually give the new manager a chance. He is adapting and improving every week. He's moved to long and gabbi (which is far more effective), and i expect him to drop tadic soon. Usually we'd moan that a manger doesn't change or learn, or that his subs make no impact. And yet MP is doing the opposite of both of these and still the fans moan. And that is despite the obvious weaknesses he has accross attacking midfield, in goal, and in balancing attack and defence with this squad! Fans need to get a grip in all honesty.

So very funny that Puel had deep admiration for both Boufal and Pied...

Good home win, and still fans ****ing and moaning. What did people expect against a west Brom team which came only to park the bus? We are not man city, and have to say we clearly have some very ungrateful fans that would still rather slag off the team and manager than give credit for a win?!?! Sure signs of progress, great performances from Yoshi, Davis, gabbiadini, Bertrand and Boufal. Then good from the rest bar maybe Cedric, Tadic and Forster, who were all pretty average (or shaky). Manager showing that he recognised the issues, trying new tactics to work it, and using subs well to change it up. Promising signs, and a great win and goal! COYS!

Good win, full credit to the manager for changing things up, and good use of substitutes. Should probably be said, or do we only slag people off on saintsweb?