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If it wasn't Rickie, £6m-£8m for a 32 year old striker with 1.5 seasons of top flight footy under his belt and maybe 1 season left in him is fantastic business, you are aware of that right?

It has been repeatedly said that offers came in for other players, not least Lallana who has even said he had chances to leave for the premier league on at least 2 occasions on the way up, as well as "2" chances to join Liverpool since being in the premier league.

What Hans said was all PR guff as I said at the time. We are clearly not in financial trouble. What I can't figure out is the motive. Was it to discredit Cortese in favour of the new board? Or are the owners trying to pull the wool over our eyes whilst they offload a few assets and pocket the cash? Because clearly, Cortese knew exactly what he was doing with the owners cash... despite us all being told differently. He was given a budget, and turned a small intitial investment into what, a business worth in the region of £150m? The only other reason I can come up with, is that we are planning on spending this summer, and we are deliberately trying to seem poor... but then surely other clubs can see the figures for themselves...?? Another key point people seem to gloss over recently, they all respond to RK's comments and pointing to it meaning weakness, indecision and our likelihood of selling assets. But he is in charge of the commercial side, and Les Reed is in charge of the playing side, transfers, contracts etc etc... The only thing Les Reed has said is that he is very happy with the MoPo situation, and that enquiries for players will most likely be met with a firm "No"... I am secretly harbouring a small flicker of hope that this summer may prove to be a good one after all. But then that is the trouble with hope

Yup, family loan of £30m, transfer debt of £27m, loss last season of £7m... took me 10 seconds to come up with those numbers..... £64m

I'm sold on him because of how good a side Chile are, the fact that he has domestic club success and then brought that to the national squad, plus plays the same style football as Bielsa/mopo is enough for me. I don't think saints fans would welcome a change of style. And Chile are a very good footballing side without too many star players.

First actually post that interests me in this thread. A better choice than all the others for sure.

Um, Jones, Smalling, wellbeck and Rooney ....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27371960

Liverpool have bid for Lallana, BBC Radio Solent

Lallana won't leave. It would be suicide by the club to allow it. He has 4 years left on contract, club captain, living personification of the youth academy making up the first team and our best player. He is humble and loves the club, loves the new forest and his other half and young family are here. Yes Liverpool will pay him more dosh, but I don't think that is enough on its own for Adam and I don't think he will agitate for a move. With all of the above and at the age of 26 I can't see anyone paying us what we would want. I am worried mopo is off however. That said, surely someone with insider knowledge at the club would have leaked it¿ As for shaw, i'!m pegging him to stay, I think he is actually rather loyal and enjoys proving people wrong at saints. The only other real worry is Morgan and he would only go if Adam left IMHO. People say mopo is the key, but I think we could lose him and the team spirit of the players might still keep them together. Ultimately, KL is loving the club, we are in great shape on and off the field, RL is fiercley competitive and Let Reed knows his stuff. Between them they have to see we are on the verge of doing something special and hold all the cards with respect to player contracts. If they say no, the players will be staying... And why sell? So the question for the summer is will MoPo comit to the good ship Southampton, or have his head turned by Tottenham and a big pay check in 6months to a year when he gets sacked for achieving 4th like harry did. The only thing I do wonder on, mopo had key players sold from under him at espanyol and is perhaps anxious to avoid that again. Therefore I do hold some faith in the idea that if he gets those assurances from the board that it won't happen then he to will sign.

Stop quoting him, put him on ignore so the rest of us aren't subject to his ramblings. Also who is going for the last word, you or him?

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?49508-Transfers-(rumours)-thread/page15#.U2z2D_ldVWI

So, serious but hypothetical question... And lets ignore the fact that we'd rather neither of the following occur. Would you rather:- Lose Adam or Lose MoPo?

That's a tad controversial to say the least... On a match related note, will be watching Adam after the final whistle, will be obvious if its his last game I suspect.

It is a terrible idea. Literally a shambles. It will also devastate the lower league structure. Should not be brought in!

I believe the water represents the Solent, Test and Itchen; the tree then represents the New Forest and the common (which is a preserved bit of forest in the middle of the city...) The rest is obvious, if the above wasn't..

I agree, lallana's comments and body language were very awkward last night when asked that question. Worrying signs. That said he did pull it round from talking about the club in the past tense () to at least saying "I’ve been here since I was 12 and I want to keep progressing with the club"... I still don't think he'd ever force a move, however I get the impression he thinks the end is near. However you look at it, it was not the speech of a lad who has been with the club he loves since he was 11, has just captained them to their best ever premier league finish, got nominated for player of the year, got in the team of the year, and is off to a world cup in Brazil... where was his excitement for the future? Worrying times, hope he was just embarrassed at winning every award

No chance... Cork, wanyama and Morgan will decimate any kind of play through their midfield. Davis and Lallana will cause trouble in the CAM role. Its Lambert last chance to steak a claim for a WC birth. We have a first choice defence of Clyne, shaw, fonte and Lovren. United have had a torrid season and want it to be over as fast as possible, not only that but they will be getting another new manager soon... there is no one to impress, they've long since stopped caring about the embarrassment of this season, Rooney is "injured" and giggs wants to give himself one last run out. There will be only one winner this weekend. It is not United. Ferguson has gone, get used to the new days. Dell sized mentality 101 Be positive man!! We've rarely had it this good, united have rarely had it this bad, and you still predict a loss

Football comes and goes in cycles.. but we aren't going to be signing the EFY any time soon lol

A net spen of £3m under Adkins from league 1 to premier league isn't bad...

Very well said Alps. Can't disagree with that in any way to be honest.

To be clear, people are actually surprised that she died of a drug overdose? WOW! It was the very first thing I said when hearing it on the radio. That lass had every opportunity in life, but instead took after her drugged up parents and selfishly left her kids and (druggy) husband with no mother or wife. Never speak ill of the dead, fine... but the only person I have sympathy for are the children.

I did, and it was derailed immediately in the first post. I then debated starting this thread but decided there was no point as the same would happen and it has. Bazza especially is a miserable skate tuesday, and Glasgow has multiple accounts that he switches between to progress and argument. If you stick them both on ignore there is nothing to read... But then what's the point of scrolling through pages of skate hate. Glasgow even goes to the extremes of impersonating swf posters on other forums to make them and the club fans look bad, before then linking it on here. Saints won out on the football pitch but lost on the internet, the blue phew having a little laugh even if its token at best. They won't get dealt with, I mean the pure number of page viewings that Glasgow does must pay for the forum in advertising costs alone. Fortunately there are places to post where they don't inhabit and where good discussion can still be had. Although a new troll free forum would be nice

C. Discredit Cortese in PR war that was and still is (based on DM) waging. Also stops clubs trying to screw us over quite so much. Put it this way ladies, if you are in a poor financial position and need to sell, you don't announce that you're poor and about to sell, thus knocking down the fee you can get. (Unless you'r a Labour/Scottish chancellor and you're about to sell some of the nations gold off)

Right guys and gals, what is with all this doom and gloom? 1.) The club have secured 8th in the Premier League to match our best ever finish and points total with two games still to play, although GS's team had a better season. 2.) We have an owner who actually loves the club, comes to lots of games, brings her nephew a along etc etc... So Cortese is gone, I am constantly thinking how nice it is to be owned by a proper family who are emotionally invested in the club. Every time I see her smiling at a saints game it reminds me of Marcus at Wembley... I don't think I'd swap that other than to have the man there himself. 3.)Since 2005, we have produced Walcott, bale, shaw, oxlade and lallana... that is 5 very good players (1 of Messi standard) in 8 years. We've also produced players like surman, dyer, best, baird, prowse, chambers, Gallagher etc etc. The current rate the academy is providing around 2 first team players a season, and the knock on effect is that we are attracting better and better youth players and coaches! 4.) So do people think it matters if we sell one or two of the best ones every now and then? For say £20m-30m each - this is what Lallana and Shaw will cost for us to sell. The club is on a very strong financial footing, i'd fully expect owners who want to progress and who clearly love the club, to push us on to the best of their abilities with that money, should we even sell. In addition, would anyone actually begrudge Adam for leaving? He stuck with us since relegation from championship and has had numerous offers from larger teams, even offers this January offering to treble his salary according to his agent...he is still playing for us, why will it change now? 5.) Shaw has repeatedly said he is happy to stay at saints... Chambers has said this, Lallana has said this. Lambert has said it, prowse has said it etc etc etc..... Morgan said he would never try and force a move away.. They are all just pitching in a little bit of pressure in support of MoPo.. 6.) We signed champions league level players in Lovren, wanyama, ramirez (even dani), do people think that if we sell Lallana, the club will spontaneously combust and relegation will follow? Lets just ignore the fact that even if we sell one or two players the academy will just replace them, or produce players for another position that we would otherwise have bought someone in for. I could go on... but all the negative press comes with Zero quotes attached... when a player or the club makes positive comments about departures (shaw and reed being the latest examples) it gets negligible coverage, and is followed up in several papers by just reports of more players leaving. So far, we're on course to lose MoPo, Lallana, shaw, cork, morgan, jayrod, lovren, chambers, ramirez, wanyama, fonte (in january), a couple of nippers in academy...no one seems to want Boruc?? this is pretty much the entire midfield and attack and defence... thank god they'll leave us Davis!! Do people actually believe this stuff. I actually expect no one to leave unless we get offered stupid money, in which case... good luck to the player. But if MoPo extends his contract (which I expect to happen due to his track record of loyalty and developing youth, and statment about staying in the premier league - and realistically what has he done in his managerial career so far to warrant a larger club?), then the players will definitely be staying. So lets all stop the bedwetting, and stop reading the fail, the mirror, the express and the guardian for a bit shall we... At least wait until Lallana arrives on the world stage in Brazil before wetting the bed over his departure... Because only a moron would sell him before he takes off on the world stage! It would be like brown forwarning about selling off the nations gold, letting the price drop, and then selling Stick together saints fans, this squad will be doing even better next season