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Capello made mistakes in his team selection but the players in the pitch played like park players. Why is it when a player pulls on an England shirt his ability seems to diminish? Cole and Johnsin can't defend. Upson should not have been in the sqaud. Terry doesn't have the brain to defend on the right side. Why bring Heskey on when you need a goal? Why persist with Rooney whebn his head or fitness is not right? Truly rubbish from top to bottom.

He did indeed. TP had a diving header that went just over the bar. I think he may have picked up an injury in that game but Ramsey decided to use overlapping fullbacks in a 4-3-3 formation and the rest is history (including the end of Painey's England career).

Don't mention St George it will only upset people. He wasn't remotely English.

Nothing wrong with being proud of your country, but it say "British" in my passport an I can't see anything wrong in that. The whole tribalism thing is a bit redundant now in the 21st century and you have to wonder what is going on in people's lives when they get so worked up about a name. We are all human beings and we all share the planet. The notion that you are somehow better than somone else by accident of geography should have died out with the defeat of National Socialism in Germany half way through the last century. The "English" bloodline comes from Germans, Scandanavians, Italians, French, Celts, Dutch, etc invaders and immigrants/invaders in the past - african and asian in more recent times. A person's identity should be defined by the type of person they are, not their postcode. Trust me, flying a white flag with a red cross on it outside your house makes you no better a human being than somone flying the stars and stripes outside theirs. Tribalism/nationalism has been one of the biggest causes of Man's inhumanity to Man since time began. Time to grow up and move forward. It is one thing to support a bunch of sportsmen who share a common geographical boundary, another to get wound up by what it says in your passport. And as for those kicking off about being English when they have made the choice to up sticks and move to another country....what's going on there?

It pains me to agree with you but yes, average so far but it is improving slowly.

This American team would get relegated form the Premiership.

There is a big difference at someone throwing a stone at a car and a street riot. Rioting is rioting and is no less so if it involves football. I have had my car vandalised and it is very annoying, but I don't put that in the same league as a major brawl kicking off in the streets.

£30,000 of criminal damage. Throwing missiles that could have caused serious injury. If this had been Pompey supporters those of you who say this is wrong would expect harsher sentencing. The only way to stamp out mindess violence is to dish out tough sentences. A riot in the streets isn't any less so because it is carried out by football supporters.

Pearson and Burley have at least 2 things in common. Both managed Saints. Both failed in the play offs. Is Pearson "turd"?

In the last few years only 3 managers have given us anything to get excited about, Strachan, Burley and Pardew. 2 of these get grief.

The problem with England is lack of quality in depth. We end up taking crocked players and praying they can stay fit. King was never really going to last was he? Rooney ended the season crocked and looks nothing like his old self. Terry seems to have been crushed by the bad press and pressure. YOu need you best players firing on all cylinders. We have few class acts and if they don't come up wit the goods, at this level. we are stuffed. We should have walked this group and we currently look the worst team of the 4.

To be a world class player you need to perform at the very highest level. You can't blame Heskey for Rooney's performance last night, he was just awful. His control was a bad as mine and he coulnd't pass. mind you the rest were pretty awful too!

Why do we have to keep on slagging off ex employees? Most of them did the best they could for the club (aprt from Redknapp who I don't believe gave us anything like 100%). Most of the managers we have had have failed to achieve anything of note. Burley did at least put a team together that made the play offs. Pardew won a cup but still we had people speculating about when to get rid of him. We have had very few managers who have acheived anything of note so why pick on Burley? We are never going to get managers of the standard of Ferguson or Wenger so at least give the poor b*ggers who have to please you lot some credit for doing what they can for the club.

They might also get used to:- getting promoted, getting into Europe the next season, scoring lots of goals, winning every other game.....

I doubt it Robbie, he was still getting stick when we tonked Wolves away,yet Pearson took us to withing 20 mins of relegation and he is a hero? Some manager's faces fit, Burley's obviously didn't so many. Yes he did play some players out of position, so has every manager at some point, including Strachan. Yes he had a blind spot for some players, like Wright, but Strachan had that with Telfer. He still managed to give us our most competitive season for some time and deserves some credit. He also brought in 2 players of the season (Davis and Davies) but some people only want to dig up negative stuff.

Burley did what he set out to do, he made the play offs. His side scored goals and won games at home and away. To suggest that he was some kind of monemental failure is quite ridiculous but some on here who don't seem to understand the nature of football and not being able to buy success They will always see him in a poor light. Until Pardew came along he had the best win ration of any manager at SFC. Play offs in his first full season, 3 best players sold from under him the next season but still nearer the top than the bottom when he left. Best Saints manager ever? No. Worst ever? No. Really, what is the problem? As for being an alchy, how many of those can run the London Marathon?

Rooney doesn't look look fit or worth his place in the side. The rest look like frightened rabbits. Heskey should not be there. Don't mess around with light weights like Lennon or Wright Phillips. Play Joe Cole. Change the system.

Exactly. The most important position of the season is the final one. We were a decent team that year if a little inconsistant. To call a manager "turd" when he makes the play offs in his first full season just shows how little DD knows about football. We were very unfortunate not to make the play off final. If the manager had been "turd" we would not have got anywhere near that postion. "Turd" managers also do not manage to win every other game. Still, if you live in a world where you think you can buy success, you probably aren't going to have a balanced view of what happens in the real world are you? I have been supporting the Saints since 1966. We have one the FA Cup once and have noever finsished the top of any league in all of those years, yet one manager gets called "turd" because, in his one and only full season he took us to the play offs. Hmmmmm

It may have been a "freak" result but we did make the play offs so I really don't know what your problem is. Oh hang on, yes I do, you think we can buy promotion.

Not even when we went to Wolves and scored 6 away from home? We were as good as any team in the top 6.

Do you think he will?

Fully agree. Claus was okay but ceratinly not a legend and had an awful season the season we went down.

Everything has to be right, including the attitude. It doesn't really matter what the bookies think once the whistle blows and it won't be easy for us as it hasn't been easy for Leeds.

Signing the European Player of the Year.

To be honest Alps, it takes very liitle to get you exasperated and I could have put money on you posting this in early June. How do you know that transfers have not been identified? Why sign people now and pay wages they are not going to earn for some weeks? You show consistently that you know nothing about running a football club. Given you total support for Mr Cortese are you saying now that he doesn't know what he is doing Do you really believe that we wil start the season without the players that Pardew feels he needs?