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I agree. But it is not just about the last few years. Those with agendas just stick to the things that back up their arguements. They told us we should be like Charlton. Where are they now? Where are Leeds, Norwich? Look at the bigger picture and it is not all about one man. It is about running a football club within its means. Even if you do, as other clubs have found to their cost, it is not guarantee of success. But money rules and if you are not very very careful about how you spend what you have, you can find yourself coming unstuck very rapidly.

Pardew was determined to prove to the fans once and for all that the "youth experiment" was well and truly over.

Of course they weren't. I have met them both and the only "problem" they have is that try and hold a balanced view. Neither in my view were what Alpine would call a "Luvvie" but both were bright enough to see the shades of grey. In Alpine's world everything is in black and white. When he grows up, like most teenagers, he will see that the world really is not that simple. If you were to go back and read Jonah's post he was 95% right and totally spot on about Wilde, But of course that makes him a "Luvvie" and everything he says was rubbish.

It is not a question of trust it is a question of finances. As Leeds and we have found out. There is no guarantee that £10m would have made any difference to our plight. Afteral we went down with players like Crouch and Phillips on board and several others who are still playing Prem football. We couldn't afford that money, let alone the wages, for two players.

I can handle it thanks. But I am also not blind to the fact that we are currently, in December, just above the relegation spots in the 3rd tier of English football. Isn't life wonderful down here?

You really are completly clueless aren't you? You take the whole level of debate to new lows every time you appear. I will try one more time, to see if you can grasp this point. I shall also type very slowly so that you can follow me. Are you ready? J u s t b e c a u s e s o m e o n e d o e s n' t s l a g s o m e o n e o f f e v e r y p o s t i t d o e s n' t m e a n t h a t t h e y a g r e e w i t h e v e r y t h i n g t h e y d o. Get it yet?

WGS spent plenty of cash (McCann and others) and presided over an average but very large squad. You are upset because he wasn't allowed to spend £10m on 2 players. In what universe have SFC ever had that kind of money to spend on 2 players? Even if LOwe had not been here it is hard to see how that type of expenditure would have happened.

Ah I see, so that was all a part of the Wilde plan was it? To get Lowe out, spend the cash, let him back in and have us at the very brink of extinction? Rapidly followed by a near takeover by another potless/clueless outfit. Brilliant.

You seem to be forgetting a group of people who came along and splashed £7m quid that we obviously could ill afford. But don't let that spoil your arguement.

Neither of whom were Lowe supporters, so what is your point???

No it is not all he said but it is the basic premise. As it turned out it was right as the minute the Wilde Bunch rode into town and blew the cash it was all downhill to administration in pretty quick time. As for the rolly eyes things, my young daughters love those things but that is about the age group they work for.

I think his point was that we had to live within our means when many supporters were complaining that we were not spending shedloads of money. In hindsight I would say Jonah had a point, wouldn't you?

Don't worry, they are storing up plenty of negativity and will be out in force when we lose another game. They must be gutted though, all these wins! They will find something to moan about though as did a group of Birmingham supports against Bruce when Brum were top of the CCC. Some people it seems are only in it for the pain!!!

Oviously it was a worry that it took so long to get out of the bottom zone but the last 13 matches do not lie. What is more encouraging is that we are winning games we we are not playing brilliantly, something all the top teams can do becaus no one plays brilliantly every week. Pardew is doing well. Yes, still room for improvement but again, the same can be said for most teams. Mind you, the moaners will be out in force again once we lose a match.

Pardew is no mug and why someone thought to start a thread saying it wasn't a question of if he should go but when is beyond me. It is just as well that fans don't run football clubs, mind you we have one not so long ago...d'oh!!!

The league. But if you go out into every game wanting to win it that is all we can ask of the team. I don't like the idea of a "priority." We should look to win every match.

I am not saying this is the case here, but sometimes decent players struggle in the lower leagues. Players don't make the runs that you might get from a better class of player or make themselves available in the right place at the right time. I did hear a rumour that we bought him because they wanted to make money on him as he had potential. He started off brightly enough but stalled. It will be interesting to see if AP can get the best out of him.

Oh dear, you are not in a very good mood today are you? For goodness sakes, lighten up! Are you not happy that we are actually winning a lot more games than we are drawing or losing???

It would make sense for clubs in the same vicinity but can't see it working for us.

When was the last time we won so many games? That is not spin it is a fact. Even the might Man Utd win games in which they are poor, that is the mark of a good team. We are now winning gaames where we are not always at our best. Okay, it didn't work against Brighton but even though we played poorly if we had taken our chances we could have won. Nick didn't say we will reach the play offs, he was just pointing out that over the last 11 games we have an amazing record (especially for a club like us starved of anything to get excited about for years). It was long before this run started that there was a thread on here entitled Pardew Out, But When. Nicks stats show just how stupid some people can be. Lat year we got excited about 3 wins back to back. This year we should be just as happy with 8 winds in 11 shouldn't we? Where's the spin in that? You know as well as I do that there are many people here who get off on the negatives, and goodness knows we have had more than our share of those. Why can't we just enjoy a set of stats that show that we can win matches without worrying about "spin" or what or what not happen by the end of the season? If we keep wiining matches at this rate Nick can "spin" all he likes. It is points on the board that matter and we are putting up there faster than we have done for years. I am not going to find something to moan about even if others are.

Probably better than being Victor Meldrew in disguise though eh Alpine?

God forbid you should raise anything positive Nick, you know how the wrist slitters on here hate any good news!

Oh dear Duncan, you seem to be morphing into Alpine! Can't you just enjoy the fact that we are having a decent run of form for a change? It is hardly "spin" in the way New Labour used it is it? It is a list of the last 11 games and for the first time in years we have won lots of matches. Enjoy! It won't stop the Usual Suspects from calling for Pardew's head next time we lose mind....

You know what I mean, none of them get the continued abuse as ex managers that Burley gets do they?? If you don't like my posts don't read them. I take it back, you are not Alpine in disguise, you are worse.

Did it get a fair trial?