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You forget every thread is about Lowe, without him this board would die.

If we loan a youngster like either of those from the prem I'd be surprised if we were paying a bean towards there wages. Why does everyone on here think that a loan imediately means we have to pay something? Most clubs see loaning out youngsters as part of there development do you think bournemouth paid the wages of all the players we lent them?!? I suspect not. Saw Sahar for Sheffield Wednesday last year looked a good prospect allthough he was continuously offside for most of the match.

The sad thing is Mills was ready for the championship when we let him go, if you don't believe me go and read the match reports from his time at Coventry. He left because Burleys predecessor wouldn't play him, he'd made his mind up before Burley arrived and started playing him.

No they don't, they are just trying to get people to show up and support the team, nowehere in the aritcle does it say the support at other games has been crap it just emphasises that good support has helped the team to some of there best results this season. He even acknowledges that the support has been brilliant inspite of the fact were doing terribly this season. Of course don't let the facts get in the way of your morale outrage, I think the problem could be that Wotte has a better command of English than half our fanbase.

Statistics and history mean nothing if we get him to play well at this level, you seem to have totally written him off before he's even kicked a ball in the reserves which is just childish madness, but then I guess he was signed by the axis of evil that runs the club so we must hate him like the devil himself.

He could say the pope was catholic and the queens a lady and 10-20 people on here would slag him off and find some massive hidden agenda of the evil lowe. It's like reading shakespeare with an English lit grad you just can't take it at face value and enjoy it anymore.

Just to put a bit of perspective on things at a similar stage in his career Geof Horsfield was carying bricks on a building site in bettween matches so lets not write him off before he's played for us.

Sick of threads like this, everyone will big it up, the team will fook it up, everyone will moan. It's the story of our season we will be in League 1 next season get used to it.

He didn't play for us long enough to deserve either, he's just another member of the Watford team.

Same could also be said of the prem, match of the day is often full of goal keeping howlers from such world class stoppers as Carson and Gomez etc. Goal keeping is a tuff position where every mistake counts, if saints had scored with more than one of the twenty shots we had on tuesday nobody would have cared about the one mistake Kelvin may or may not have made.

relegation doesn't mean we have to go into admin so it certainly won't happen this season.

they look alot more solid than anyone and Lancashire and the terrible full backs would make anyone look over worked in the middle.

Did anyone ever get his football Manager stats?

I love this web site, it's totally ridiculous apparently we either have to choose to be lowe luvies or lowe haters? When did we stop having the option of being fans, personally I couldn't give a damn who runs the club as long as it works, which clearly it isn't at the minute. Thats not to say I 'hate' Lowe I actually think in his time he's done alot of good for the club but he's not anymore so the time has come for him to step aside. Finally as far as the appointment of Jan goes I was in the lets see camp which quickly became the lets get him out of here camp and to be honest I would have had the same opinion wether or not Lowe appointed him or the fans elected him. Surely it's got to be time to drop all this lowe luvie and hater crap and just get on with supporting our club?

He was awsome on champ Manager quite a few years back, now if only we could get Stefan Ishisaki to sort out our lack of a winger problem!

I think were upto 88 players who've made league appearences for us since relegation we'll definately break 100 next season I would suspect.

Anyone predict this after the Sheffield Wednesday game last year? I certainly never thought I'd see the day when he was welcomed as our club captain an impressive turn around!

Nothing to do with cost, we would have a better atmospher in a smaller ground, empty seat don't sing and cheer. Why does everything with this club have to some down to one of two things these days the club was here long before the 'money' and 'lowe' issues and will still be here long after them. When will we be alowed to make comments without refference to 'money' or 'lowe'?

I think the best decision would have been to build one with 10K less seats.

I disagree, I was at Sheffield Utd for his first game back in the side this season and while he was clearly not match fit he gave his all for the cause and I can't remember ever thinking he wasn't commited to the club when he was on the pitch. He's been treated badly by the club from day one with that ridiculous signing on the pitch thing the his beloved Burley used him poorley and seeing him wasted at left back for the last season and a half has been a crying shame. Good Luck Rudi, shame it dodn't work out for you.

I think if Kelvin was relegated to the reserves the revolt would be in the dressing room not just the stands. The team can survive with out Rudi but take Kelvin out and we'd be down already.

Give me one example on the pitch? When I've seen him he's always looked one of our most commited players.

Thats irrelevant round here, if your not the finished article at 17 then your not good enough to be an international mega star so ship out cause only galacticos are allowed in our mighty team.

Reports last year when he was fined put him on about 5k a week so assuming his pay didn't drop in the summer which seem unlikely his yearly pay would be 260K plus the extra cost of NI contibutions for the club so that will cover a 'few hundred grand'. Fortunately (assuming we are only interested in making money on him) he's been out on loan for most of the season so we shouldn't have been paying his wages allthough I'm not sure how the Sheffield United contract would have worked with us having that 'striker' on loan at the same time.

You miss the point, in order to get compensation from another team when they sign a youngster who's contract has expired then you must have offered them an extension that matched there previous terms. It is the common belief of alot of fans that we offered such a contract to dyer assuming that he would sign for another club like pompey who would then have to pay us the compensation as set by the tribunal. Sadly it appears at the time nobody made him a better offer so it signed the contract that we were obliged to have offered him leaving us with a player the club didn't want so he has been consistently shipped out on loan.