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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
    So just to be clear you think that’s Islam is harmful to those who follow it and it has a negative impact on other humans?
    Yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raging Bull View Post
    Yes.
    Can you explain why to both

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    Yes
    So you are anti-Islamic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
    So you are anti-Islamic.
    I think it is harmful as it influences people's decisions based on something that is unjustified.

    Is there a problem being anti a religion thaf instucts forvthe killing of non believers and is sexist? Are you in favour of those things?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    Can you explain why to both
    Tell me something, do you live by the laws of the land?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raging Bull View Post
    Tell me something, do you live by the laws of the land?
    That does not answer the question. Try again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    I think it is harmful as it influences people's decisions based on something that is unjustified.

    Is there a problem being anti a religion thaf instucts forvthe killing of non believers and is sexist? Are you in favour of those things?
    Interestingly Tommy Robinson holds a similar view to yourself....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
    Interestingly Tommy Robinson holds a similar view to yourself....
    Yet again... you ignored the questions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    That does not answer the question. Try again
    I know it wasn’t, so I’ll try again.

    Do you live by the laws of the land??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raging Bull View Post
    I know it wasn’t, so I’ll try again.

    Do you live by the laws of the land??
    1) Why don't you answer the question?
    2) Yes I do

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    Yet again... you ignored the questions
    I donít tend to engage with anti Islamic, Christian adjacent hypocrites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
    I don’t tend to engage with anti Islamic, Christian adjacent hypocrites.
    We've been through this before.

    You need a dictionary! Use it for hypocrite and adjacent because you keep misusing those terms in application.

    1) I'm not an adjacent if I think the religion hasn't met its burden of proof
    2) I'm not a hypocrite as I don't follow any religious practise. Celebrations, gift giving and meeting friends and family in winter existed long before Christianity.

    3) Finally... why is it a problem to be anti a religion if it supports genocide, sexism, homophobia, slavery etc. Are you in favour of those things?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    1) Why don't you answer the question?
    2) Yes I do
    So when the God who created this world wants to do something, don’t you think he has the right to do so or judge?

    If people know the law and choose to disobey it then they must suffer the consequences

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    We've been through this before.

    You need a dictionary! Use it for hypocrite and adjacent because you keep misusing those terms in application.

    1) I'm not an adjacent if I think the religion hasn't met its burden of proof
    2) I'm not a hypocrite as I don't follow any religious practise. Celebrations, gift giving and meeting friends and family in winter existed long before Christianity.

    3) Finally... why is it a problem to be anti a religion if it supports genocide, sexism, homophobia, slavery etc. Are you in favour of those things?
    1/ depends what the burden of proof is, thatís a subjective point. For billions of people their religion has met that burden

    2/ why didnít you chose to spend time with your family and exchange gifts on May Day, August bank holiday or New Yearís Day? You chose to do it on Christmas Day.

    3/ I would LOVE to see you explain to a Muslim why you are anti Islamic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raging Bull View Post
    So when the God who created this world wants to do something, don’t you think he has the right to do so or judge?

    If people know the law and choose to disobey it then they must suffer the consequences
    1) You first need to prove God exists. Can you provide some good evidence please?
    2) If he did exist... why does that make his rules automatically good?
    3) Do you think the 10 commandment that disobedient children should be followed? The punishment in the Bible is to kill those children... is that the rule of a kind and loving God who should be respected?

    (I doubt you'll answer all three questions. Surprise me...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    1) You first need to prove God exists. Can you provide some good evidence please?
    2) If he did exist... why does that make his rules automatically good?
    3) Do you think the 10 commandment that disobedient children should be followed? The punishment in the Bible is to kill those children... is that the rule of a kind and loving God who should be respected?

    (I doubt you'll answer all three questions. Surprise me...)
    I can answer number 1. Daffodils

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
    1/ depends what the burden of proof is, that’s a subjective point. For billions of people their religion has met that burden
    Only because they don't understand what the burden of proof means (I have doubts if you know). Evidence needs to manifest in reality, be testable and the claim be falsifiable.

    Enlighten us... what do you believe concerning God or is this entirely a wind-up?

    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
    2/ why didn’t you chose to spend time with your family and exchange gifts on May Day, August bank holiday or New Year’s Day? You chose to do it on Christmas Day.
    I did spend time with them on New Year's day. As for May Day and August bank holiday, few families stay indoors at those times. A winter celebration pre-dates Christianity. They don't own it!

    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
    3/ I would LOVE to see you explain to a Muslim why you are anti Islamic.
    It isn't hard to justify why killing non believers is an abhorrent piece of scripture. As is the way woman are treated. Do you think both those things are ok?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    Only because they don't understand what the burden of proof means (I have doubts if you know). Evidence needs to manifest in reality, be testable and the claim be falsifiable.

    Enlighten us... what do you believe concerning God or is this entirely a wind-up?



    I did spend time with them on New Year's day. As for May Day and August bank holiday, few families stay indoors at those times. A winter celebration pre-dates Christianity. They don't own it!



    It isn't hard to justify why killing non believers is an abhorrent piece of scripture. As is the way woman are treated. Do you think both those things are ok?
    1/ itís called confirmation bias. Look it up
    2/ did you take them gifts too? Why did you chose to copy a praying tweet when there were dozens of others which said exactly the same thing with no reference to prayer? Some might suggest a subconscious leaning towards god
    3/ Your anti Muslim diatribe is clouding your judgement of what is written in the Quran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
    1/ it’s called confirmation bias. Look it up
    2/ did you take them gifts too? Why did you chose to copy a praying tweet when there were dozens of others which said exactly the same thing with no reference to prayer? Some might suggest a subconscious leaning towards god
    3/ Your anti Muslim diatribe is clouding your judgement of what is written in the Quran.
    a) You ignored the question about what you believe concerning God.

    b) You clearly don't know what confirmation bias is.

    c) Only a couple of people (not dozens) interviewed Ralph after the game, I used the tweet of one of them. That does not mean I've passed any comment about prayer... this is utterly bizarre you are persisting with this line. That was solely about JWP's injury not being bad.

    d) I'll ask (again)... do you think it is fine that the Qu'ran says non believers should be killed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    Only because they don't understand what the burden of proof means (I have doubts if you know). Evidence needs to manifest in reality, be testable and the claim be falsifiable.

    Enlighten us... what do you believe concerning God or is this entirely a wind-up?



    I did spend time with them on New Year's day. As for May Day and August bank holiday, few families stay indoors at those times. A winter celebration pre-dates Christianity. They don't own it!



    It isn't hard to justify why killing non believers is an abhorrent piece of scripture. As is the way woman are treated. Do you think both those things are ok?
    That criticism of Islamic scripture is just a perverted interpretation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hypochondriac View Post
    That criticism of Islamic scripture is just a perverted interpretation.
    In what context is kill the infidels acceptable?

    Do you agree that the Bible gives the punishment for breaking 10 commandments like disobeying your parents is death?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    a) You ignored the question about what you believe concerning God.

    b) You clearly don't know what confirmation bias is.

    c) Only a couple of people (not dozens) interviewed Ralph after the game, I used the tweet of one of them. That does not mean I've passed any comment about prayer... this is utterly bizarre you are persisting with this line. That was solely about JWP's injury not being bad.

    d) I'll ask (again)... do you think it is fine that the Qu'ran says non believers should be killed?
    The thing about it is despite your protestations there are a lot of evidence to point to you not being what you claim. The celebrating of Christmas, the prayer tweets, the islamophobia, the claims of the burden of proof not being met. The picture it paints is a angry man at odds with himself struggling to find his identity. We are here to help you Matthew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
    The thing about it is despite your protestations there are a lot of evidence to point to you not being what you claim.
    The burden of proof is on the person making a claim. That is how burden of proof works.

    What claims do you think I've made without evidence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    The burden of proof is on the person making a claim. That is how burden of proof works.

    What claims do you think I've made without evidence?
    You claim not to be religious but you celebrate Christmas
    You are clearly anti Islamic and by default a racist
    You appear to be Christian adjacent
    The burden of proof is subjective to who is asking for proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
    You claim not to be religious but you celebrate Christmas
    You are clearly anti Islamic and by default a racist
    You appear to be Christian adjacent
    The burden of proof is subjective to who is asking for proof.
    1) No religious element to my day = not religious (bizarre you can't understand that!)
    2) You don't know that Islam is not a race... it is a religion. You can choose your religion... you can't choose your race
    3) Again we've been through this and you still can't grasp that someone who doesn't believe in a God and thinks the teaching are harmful can't be a Christian adjacent
    4) You don't understand what burden of proof means. The person making a claim has the burden of proof.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    1) No religious element to my day = not religious (bizarre you can't understand that!)
    2) You don't know that Islam is not a race... it is a religion. You can choose your religion... you can't choose your race
    3) Again we've been through this and you still can't grasp that someone who doesn't believe in a God and thinks the teaching are harmful can't be a Christian adjacent
    4) You don't understand what burden of proof means. The person making a claim has the burden of proof.

    I think itís you thatís lacking understanding my brother. Seek first to understand then be understood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    1) You first need to prove God exists. Can you provide some good evidence please?
    You exist. God believes in you, even if you do not believe in Him.
    ( Belief does not require proof. )

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    2) If he did exist... why does that make his rules automatically good?
    His gaff, his rules, ingrate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    3) Do you think the 10 commandment that disobedient children should be followed? The punishment in the Bible is to kill those children... is that the rule of a kind and loving God who should be respected?
    The Bible is for the guidance of wise men, and the obedience of fools. The punishment of death is for children who disrespect their parents by striking or otherwise harming them, but you are as guilty of misappropriation and deliberate misinterpretation as Christian zealots who take every word of the Bible as 'Gospel' to be awarded blind and unquestioning devotion.
    Last edited by badgerx16; 07-02-2020 at 08:53 PM.

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    Heterosexual white men with right wing islamophobic, with extreme right wing Christian adjacency but are in complete denial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish View Post
    Heterosexual white men with right wing islamophobic, with extreme right wing Christian adjacency but are in complete denial.
    As this is clearly at me.

    - How do you know I'm hetrosexual?
    - How do you know I'm white?
    - Thinking a religion is evil for supporting slavery, genocide, sexism and homophobia is not extreme right wing
    - You can't be supportive of Christianity if you think its morals are bad and it has not met its burden of proof

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    - You can't be supportive of Christianity if you think its morals are bad and it has not met its burden of proof
    You don't get the concept of belief, do you ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by badgerx16 View Post
    You don't get the concept of belief, do you ?
    Read it in the context of what it was replying to! He was claiming I'm a Christian adjacent. I replied by saying that if you don't think something has met its burden of proof then you aren't an adjacent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    Read it in the context of what it was replying to! He was claiming I'm a Christian adjacent. I replied by saying that if you don't think something has met its burden of proof then you aren't an adjacent.
    He is fishing, and you keep biting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badgerx16 View Post
    He is fishing, and you keep biting.
    It isn't a real bite if I know he is fishing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    It isn't a real bite if I know he is fishing
    It's worse.

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    Add pandemics to the duck rape as acts of this 'kind and loving' God

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    Add pandemics to the duck rape as acts of this 'kind and loving' God
    Don't be a helmet mate. Political/religious etc views etc at this time are cheap and unnecessary. The worlds in crisis, go and wash the car or whatever.

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    Good to see some virtual church services this Sunday morning. Giving people some inspiration and encouraging good can only be a positive thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    Add pandemics to the duck rape as acts of this 'kind and loving' God
    Obsessed

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    Quote Originally Posted by hypochondriac View Post
    Good to see some virtual church services this Sunday morning. Giving people some inspiration and encouraging good can only be a positive thing.
    It'll be interesting to see if we can find out the one true religion through all of this. Obviously if you're praying to the right god you've got a much greater chance of survival, so the stats should eventually start to back this up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lighthouse View Post
    It'll be interesting to see if we can find out the one true religion through all of this. Obviously if you're praying to the right god you've got a much greater chance of survival, so the stats should eventually start to back this up.
    https://nationalfile.com/islamic-sch...gets-infected/

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    Haha what a ****ing ******. Next up, Allah willed me to get infected to illustrate what a danger infidels and their infidel diseases are to the true believers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    Add pandemics to the duck rape as acts of this 'kind and loving' God
    I could go on for ever but you’d never see it, but as others have already pointed out, now isn’t the time. In fact I’ve purposely stayed away from this thread.

    I don’t know what’s happened to you in your life (and I’m not sure I wanna know) but as per usual you’re utterly tone deaf to the situation.

    Pour some ice cold water on your erect sausage and have a word with yourself.

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    Heís going to explode if he searches for Candle on Twitter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raging Bull View Post
    I could go on for ever but you’d never see it, but as others have already pointed out, now isn’t the time. In fact I’ve purposely stayed away from this thread.

    I don’t know what’s happened to you in your life (and I’m not sure I wanna know) but as per usual you’re utterly tone deaf to the situation.

    Pour some ice cold water on your erect sausage and have a word with yourself.
    There is no sane excuse for a kind and loving God to create a world where this can happen. If God is all knowing then free will cannot by definition exist as by knowing the future he removes free will as he created us under the conditions where he already knows what will happen... thus no free will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    There is no sane excuse for a kind and loving God to create a world where this can happen. If God is all knowing then free will cannot by definition exist as by knowing the future he removes free will as he created us under the conditions where he already knows what will happen... thus no free will.
    Quite a few people were praying yesterday. Good for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    There is no sane excuse for a kind and loving God to create a world where this can happen. If God is all knowing then free will cannot by definition exist as by knowing the future he removes free will as he created us under the conditions where he already knows what will happen... thus no free will.
    There's a time for expression of your sorts of feelings. Now is not it. Have a look at what's going on. Take a minute to consider how others might be feeling or coping, and then think of the inevitable long term damage emotionally, physically, financially. Then ask yourself whether it's appropriate to be ramming home your prejudices.

    I know people with no belief in anything who've turned to prayer. Sure you'll question why do that if you don't believe, but if it helps people cope then good luck to them.

    If ever there was a time to live and let live, it's now.

    That's a long winded way of saying wind your neck in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by egg View Post
    There's a time for expression of your sorts of feelings. Now is not it. Have a look at what's going on. Take a minute to consider how others might be feeling or coping, and then think of the inevitable long term damage emotionally, physically, financially. Then ask yourself whether it's appropriate to be ramming home your prejudices.

    I know people with no belief in anything who've turned to prayer. Sure you'll question why do that if you don't believe, but if it helps people cope then good luck to them.

    If ever there was a time to live and let live, it's now.

    That's a long winded way of saying wind your neck in.
    False hope is not healthy. It is harmful and can make the situation worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hypochondriac View Post
    Quite a few people were praying yesterday. Good for them.
    You get daft people who pray for their children to get better rather than seeking medical help.

    Prayer has never been shown to work. It creates false hope and should be discouraged in times like these.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Le God View Post
    You get daft people who pray for their children to get better rather than seeking medical help.

    Prayer has never been shown to work. It creates false hope and should be discouraged in times like these.
    Some people seek medical help and do a bit of prayer. If it lifts their morale in testing times then fair play. Crack on I say.

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