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Who would you like to see as Saints' new manager?  

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  1. 1. Who would you like to see as Saints' new manager?

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Fowllyd

Fowllyd

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Cortesse bit was a full double page question and answer bit

 

could lack of news coming out be because there hasn't been any news?

 

Well, Cortese did an interview with the Echo, which is a pretty controlled environment in that you get to choose which questions you want to answer (or even which questions can be asked). I get the impression (though that's all it is) that the current management will communicate with the press etc as and when it suits them to do so - in other words, when they have something to say which they want to be heard.

 

There's certainly been a total absence of leaks from the Swiss side of things - both before and since the takeover was completed.

Fowllyd

Fowllyd

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I am not endorsing this but a mate of mine suggested Darren Ferguson - not sure if he would be what we need though?

 

Many would say he'd be an excellent choice, but then he's just signed a shiny new four-year contract at Peterborough, so he also looks an unlikely one.

SaintJackoInHurworth

SaintJackoInHurworth

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I've just posted a message (http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=14706&page=8#388) thinking I was posting it on this thread so apologies for posting it twice...(well except that I accidentally typed Beckham instead of Joe Cole for some reason in my original posting!! lol)...

 

 

There is one name that I am suprised has not been mentioned in relation to the Saints job...

 

..and that's Joe Jordan! I know Skate haters won't like the idea, but consider the facts:

 

Harry Redknapp has been pretty rubbish as a manager in a number of jobs - especially with Saints, but also when he was West ham manager (he had one of the most talented young squads in the country with J.Cole, Ferdinand, Carrick, Lampard, etc. and yet they were struggling against relegation until he left).

 

However, when he left us to go back to P*mpey, he suddenly became in the eyes of the media one of the greatest English managers around.

 

So, why? Was it due to Tony Adams? Many people thought that his influence must have been significant, until he was given the chance to show what he could do as a Premier League manager and flopped hopelessly.

 

That points to just one person - the brains behind Redknapp's more recent success has IMO been none other than Joe Jordan.

 

And of course, Joe played for Saints for a few seasons.

 

So, how about it? Joe Jordan for manager anyone?

stinhk

stinhk

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From the Echo comments pages today. Cannot vouch for its veracity, but the poster is always very assured in his comments and has been correct on a number of previous issues. We'll have to wait and see I suppose...

 

"As posted yesterday. Strachen will be announced tomorrow or Thursday. He was at the airport seeing off his wife. Info is from the inside. No news because there is an embargo. Appointment was prepared 10 days ago. Transfer targets (out and in) are already in place. Appointment is 5 year contract with performance payments (significant ones) linked to promotions, one to championship, then CCC to Premiership. Affordable entry cost but huge financial incentive to be successful. Echo have missed this because they aren't connected inside the new regime. New team are cautious of Echo news style and approach in this important transition and new start period. The news out is being managed very carefully hence Echo's thin news stream since the takeover. Just look back at stories on saints since then. You won't find anything of substance or value.

 

 

Hmmmm...? So who has identified the transfer targets (out and in)? A new manager would want to assess the squad and they need to be in place to do that, it can't be done from a distance. Furthermore I'd be suprised if incoming manager would sanction out and in transfers made by another.

 

"So Mr Strachan we want you to be our new manager, by the way we plan to sell Tom, D1ck, and Harry and buy John, Paul and George"

 

Nope! There's too big a hole in that rumour.

 

P.S. Sorry Ringo!

Jedsaints

Jedsaints

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Cotterill was at Cheltenham last night. Could he be watching us before taking over. Lets hope so. He would be perfect to get us out of this division

krissyboy31

krissyboy31

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Cotterill was at Cheltenham last night. Could he be watching us before taking over. Lets hope so. He would be perfect to get us out of this division

 

I wouldn't read too much into him being at the game. Cheltenham are his team and he lives locally.

charliemiller

charliemiller

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From the Echo comments pages today. Cannot vouch for its veracity, but the poster is always very assured in his comments and has been correct on a number of previous issues. We'll have to wait and see I suppose...

 

"As posted yesterday. Strachen will be announced tomorrow or Thursday. He was at the airport seeing off his wife. Info is from the inside. No news because there is an embargo. Appointment was prepared 10 days ago. Transfer targets (out and in) are already in place. Appointment is 5 year contract with performance payments (significant ones) linked to promotions, one to championship, then CCC to Premiership. Affordable entry cost but huge financial incentive to be successful. Echo have missed this because they aren't connected inside the new regime. New team are cautious of Echo news style and approach in this important transition and new start period. The news out is being managed very carefully hence Echo's thin news stream since the takeover. Just look back at stories on saints since then. You won't find anything of substance or value.

 

 

Sounds plausible , except that Strachan with his wife flew out to Malaga last Friday .....

SaintBobby

SaintBobby

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Can't see anyone being given a five-year contract, either, to be honest.

 

I don't have any inside knowledge, but to me, a 5 year contract makes sense. There's clearly a medium term strategy to get Saints back to the Premier League and we'd want someone who can see through that project.

 

The position the club finds itself in - at our lowest ebb in footballing terms for 50 years - but with lots of potential (and cash) needs a manager who looks upon Saints as a project, not just a job.

northam soul

northam soul

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Can't see anyone being given a five-year contract, either, to be honest.

 

I would normally agree but havnt they said they have a five year plan so it would be pretty pointless giving a manager a 2 year contract only for him to bugger off and then have to start again.I also know its pretty unlikely that anyone would stay here for five years anyway even if they had a five year contract.

The point being if you have all your plans in place to cover the five years from the outset then everyone can move forward knowing the targets / goals although at the end of the day it can all change but it just makes sense on paper.

northam soul

northam soul

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I also know what the new owners targets are.

 

Year 1 = Mid Table + Johnstones Dulux thingy Cup Winners

Year 2 = Promotion + Johnstones Dulux thingy Cup Winners

Year 3 = Championship Playoffs + Carling Cup Winners + F A Cup Finalists

Year 4 = as year 3 but with promotion to the premier league

Year 5 = Win the Quadruple

RonManager

RonManager

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I also know what the new owners targets are.

 

Year 1 = Mid Table + Johnstones Dulux thingy Cup Winners

Year 2 = Promotion + Johnstones Dulux thingy Cup Winners

Year 3 = Championship Playoffs + Carling Cup Winners + F A Cup Finalists

Year 4 = as year 3 but with promotion to the premier league

Year 5 = Win the Quadruple

 

Why not winners -I'm not going to Wembley if we're not going to win. :rolleyes:

krissyboy31

krissyboy31

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I would normally agree but havnt they said they have a five year plan so it would be pretty pointless giving a manager a 2 year contract only for him to bugger off and then have to start again.I also know its pretty unlikely that anyone would stay here for five years anyway even if they had a five year contract.

The point being if you have all your plans in place to cover the five years from the outset then everyone can move forward knowing the targets / goals although at the end of the day it can all change but it just makes sense on paper.

 

And somebody like WGS is not going to sign a 2 year contract if the club his selling him a 4/5 year plan. If they believe him to be the right person to execute the plan, they will contract him for the full period. If it all goes pear-shaped after a couple of seasons, WGS (or whoever) will have the security of a nice big pay off and our guys have the money, which makes that not such a big deal.

colehillsaint

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Strachan was very successful here, but the football was actually quite tedious.

 

I don't remember it like that at all. The team were very fit and would battle a side into submission for five or ten minutes, after which you would get really good entertaining football. The likes of Anders Svensson and Fernandes were a total liability in the relegation season, but under Strachan they were generally effective and great to watch. Our goals came mostly from open play. Some of Beatties were quite spectacular. Bridge and Marsden linking on the left could be great to watch.

 

I don't tend to beleive in people going back, but given our current circumstances and the reasons WGS may have left, you would have to make an exception if he was prepared to come.

Amesbury Saint

Amesbury Saint

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WGS was playing golf on Monday in this country and from what I hear from people who talked to him he is extremely unlikely to be our new manager.Said we needed a young hungry up and coming manager

 

booooooo

 

the ealier posts on this page were far more upbeat!

yarb101

yarb101

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These rollercoaster rides are getting annoying.

 

Why doesn't he come out and say no, and put us out of our misery.

 

That is the real question.

 

Why hasn't he considering he lives locally and it should be relatively easy for the local press to get hold of him

Verbal

Verbal

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WGS was playing golf on Monday in this country and from what I hear from people who talked to him he is extremely unlikely to be our new manager.Said we needed a young hungry up and coming manager

 

Ever the optimist, perhaps, but that seems like the set-up to a typical Strachan punchline.

S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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WGS was playing golf on Monday in this country and from what I hear from people who talked to him he is extremely unlikely to be our new manager.Said we needed a young hungry up and coming manager

 

If he meant that, we'd all know about it in the media now. Everything is pointing towards a WGS return....

 

If he wasn't lined up he wouldn't be storming on the betting sites and also would not be keeping silent.

 

and in the words of radio solent last week.....''Strachan today refused to comment on reports linking him with a return to saints...''

NickG

NickG

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That is the real question.

 

Why hasn't he considering he lives locally and it should be relatively easy for the local press to get hold of him

 

press have said for ages he is not in the reckoning

NickG

NickG

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If he meant that, we'd all know about it in the media now. Everything is pointing towards a WGS return....

 

If he wasn't lined up he wouldn't be storming on the betting sites and also would not be keeping silent.

 

and in the words of radio solent last week.....''Strachan today refused to comment on reports linking him with a return to saints...''

 

clutching at straws

 

betting due to fans hoping and him being out of work and local

 

Strachen was never one short of a comment nor to comment if he felt pointless question.

 

There are no firms facts pointing to it - in fact the echo with comments from Oldknow rule him out.

 

Tony L, who was recently talking to likes of MLT and KK and quite possibly WGS thinks its a definite no.

 

I think its unlikely and wouldn't get your hopes up at all.

S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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clutching at straws

 

betting due to fans hoping and him being out of work and local

 

Strachen was never one short of a comment nor to comment if he felt pointless question.

 

There are no firms facts pointing to it - in fact the echo with comments from Oldknow rule him out.

 

Tony L, who was recently talking to likes of MLT and KK and quite possibly WGS thinks its a definite no.

 

I think its unlikely and wouldn't get your hopes up at all.

 

Personally, i wouldn't listen to Tony L ;) ....only my 2 cents..

krissyboy31

krissyboy31

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clutching at straws

 

betting due to fans hoping and him being out of work and local

 

Strachen was never one short of a comment nor to comment if he felt pointless question.

 

There are no firms facts pointing to it - in fact the echo with comments from Oldknow rule him out.

 

Tony L, who was recently talking to likes of MLT and KK and quite possibly WGS thinks its a definite no.

 

I think its unlikely and wouldn't get your hopes up at all.

 

Actually Lynam said WGS would be a definite no if it was him doing the hiring. Big difference!!

NickG

NickG

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direct quotes about process, timings and saying short list complete and discussions are current, etc in echo printed article are followed by we understand WGS is not one of those.

Bit of two and two, but my guess is they are not officially wanting to be quoted on who is on/off list for obvious reasons, but have told echo its not WGS.

 

Vague I know but more substantial than he must be cos he hasn't said he isn't!

NickG

NickG

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If he meant that, we'd all know about it in the media now. Everything is pointing towards a WGS return....

 

If he wasn't lined up he wouldn't be storming on the betting sites and also would not be keeping silent.

 

and in the words of radio solent last week.....''Strachan today refused to comment on reports linking him with a return to saints...''

 

Actually Lynam said WGS would be a definite no if it was him doing the hiring. Big difference!!

 

 

no he assured us that WGS would not be on Oldknow's list due to WGS's personal reasons. Bigger difference!

S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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Well we'll just have to wait and see i guess.

 

I still believe it will be him...but if it's not...well I'm just grateful we are even able to debate this.

Thedelldays

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no he assured us that WGS would not be on Oldknow's list due to WGS's personal reasons. Bigger difference!

no he did not..he said HE (as in lynhan) would not hire WGS but that was a personal reason..

krissyboy31

krissyboy31

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direct quotes about process, timings and saying short list complete and discussions are current, etc in echo printed article are followed by we understand WGS is not one of those.

Bit of two and two, but my guess is they are not officially wanting to be quoted on who is on/off list for obvious reasons, but have told echo its not WGS.

 

Vague I know but more substantial than he must be cos he hasn't said he isn't!

 

I think they know about as much as the rest of us. I'd trust Tony Husband to be more accurate than anything Adam Leitch writes and he was all for crowning Tony Adams last week.

NickG

NickG

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Last message as I'm off to a meeting - my heart would go for a big name (but I assure you Strachan won't be on the list because of personal reasons). My head would go for someone with experience at lower leagues and with that hunger to make a name for himself........... but your guess is as good as mine.........

 

talking about current short list

Badger

Badger

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no he did not..he said HE (as in lynhan) would not hire WGS but that was a personal reason..

 

That was also my interpretation of Lynam's comment.

Thedelldays

Thedelldays

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talking about current short list

nick

 

the whole converation..;)

 

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Originally Posted by Original_Bournemouth_saint viewpost.gif

Who would you go for Tony?

 

 

Last message as I'm off to a meeting - my heart would go for a big name (but I assure you Strachan won't be on the list because of personal reasons). My head would go for someone with experience at lower leagues and with that hunger to make a name for himself........... but your guess is as good as mine.........

 

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post 114

 

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?p=377990#post377990

NickG

NickG

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I have. Not worth arguing over something he probably took about 5 secs to write and didn't expect to be analysed but still read it as

1) my heart would want big name

2) I know WGS is not possible following my enquiries he is not available due to personal reasons, so won't be on any list Olknow is doing

3) sensible option hungry lower league is what I would probably go for etc

yarb101

yarb101

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Lynam said to me via pm that wgs would not be coming unless he had had a big change of heart because he wants to spend time with his family.

 

So why is he not with the missus in Malaga?

Tac-tics

Tac-tics

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So why is he not with the missus in Malaga?

 

He is a bloke and needs a break from the misses.

Or maybe just to much of the old 'in out' with the misses on the stairs ;)

Saint 76er

Saint 76er

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WGS was playing golf on Monday in this country and from what I hear from people who talked to him he is extremely unlikely to be our new manager.Said we needed a young hungry up and coming manager

 

Perhaps wee Gordie knows of what he speaks, since several reports on this board have claimed sightings of Tisdale at a Lyndhurst hotel.

 

But rumours of the wee one still persist, so maybe WGS is being lined up in a DoF role to mentor Tisdale?

 

This would make no lie of the alleged above comments and would enable Strachan a bit more free time with his family, if he so wishes. In that regard he's better off having a role with us, if he's living locally, than becoming involved with a club in some other part of the country...

Gingeletiss

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DD...........Like NC, you could pick a fight in an empty room. I didn't read TL's comments as that he had a personal issue with WGS. I read it that WGS had personal issues.......

 

Why are you making such a stink over this....we accept that you don't like TL.....let it go man.......it could affect your position on board whilst stood near the red button!!!!!!!!!!!

NickG

NickG

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Lynam said to me via pm that wgs would not be coming unless he had had a big change of heart because he wants to spend time with his family.

 

that's how I read Tony's post as well

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