david in sweden Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 Anders Svensson about to win his 100th cap for Sweden. see complete story (for those interested) on Overseas Saints site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 Good for him - great guy and a good player for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 exactly like a number of our players, good skill when they can be bothered but rarely seem to use it. Anders did have some good games for us tbf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 Another gifted player we had, who never really did himself justice here, or in the premier league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 Anders had excellent technical ability and played well when the team was going well! He struggled somewhat when we needed to roll our collective sleeves up and battle to get a result. He certainly wasn't the first nor the last to have that problem. Overall, for what we paid for him, I would say he was a good signing for us but disappointingly never reached the heights he seem to, playing for his national team. BTW Congrats on the 100 caps Anders, which is some achievement, whichever nation you represent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 Svensson had one problem he shared with many signings at the time, which was being played out of position and in fits and starts. He was better than he was allowed to show. His competitior for a place in the Swedish national team is Kim Kallstrom, who I think is even sharper as a creative player. He plays in France and I haven't heard any rumours of him coming in this direction. On the other hand, would he like to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 I know this is random, but Dean Hammond runs exactly the same as Anders Svensson. Next time you see Hammond play, have a look and you'll see what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 best player ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 I know this is random, but Dean Hammond runs exactly the same as Anders Svensson. Next time you see Hammond play, have a look and you'll see what I mean. I said that on another thread already, but it's good to see that others have noticed it as well ! If he turns out as good as Anders I will be very happy ! (Don't think he's got much chance of 1 England cap though, let alone 100) ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 Anders Svensson about to win his 100th cap for Sweden. see complete story (for those interested) on Overseas Saints site. Seems to me to be a sad indictment of the quality of Swedish football if Anders gets to 100 caps. Overrated non-performer for Saints IMHO. Still good luck to him, always seemed like a nice guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 (edited) Seems to me to be a sad indictment of the quality of Swedish football if Anders gets to 100 caps. Overrated non-performer for Saints IMHO. Still good luck to him, always seemed like a nice guy. Mmmm! A team England haven't beaten for about 30 years I believe. Correction 40 years!! Edited 8 September, 2009 by krissyboy31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellow&blue Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 Promised a lot, delivered little - the only decent thing he did was score a free kick against Argentina in the World Cup to knock them out… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmonton Saint Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 Seems to me to be a sad indictment of the quality of Swedish football if Anders gets to 100 caps. Overrated non-performer for Saints IMHO. Still good luck to him, always seemed like a nice guy. Don't agree, Sweden have done well in international football, and have produced some fantastic players in the last 10 years alone. To get 100 caps for any Country is a great achievement and I am pleased for Anders. If only Saints still had him in midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 Anders was more of an attacking midfielder, we never really used him properly, thought he always looked pretty good on the ball though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 Can't for the life of me understand why the guy had so many admirers. He was completely overrated and never did much for us IMO. The lack of clubs interested in him when he finished with us said it all really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 I think he was criminally under-used at Saints. His best position, like Lallana's, is as an attacking midfielder, behind a front two. For the vast majority of his games Anders was stuck out on the right wing. He was (is?) a very skillful player on the ball and if he ahd been utilised correctly we would all be singing his praises (instead of just half of us). Congratulation Anders on picking up your 100th cap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 9 September, 2009 Author Share Posted 9 September, 2009 I think he was criminally under-used at Saints. His best position, like Lallana's, is as an attacking midfielder, behind a front two. For the vast majority of his games Anders was stuck out on the right wing. He was (is?) a very skillful player on the ball and if he ahd been utilised correctly we would all be singing his praises (instead of just half of us). Congratulation Anders on picking up your 100th cap! my thought EXACTLY ! .. Minsk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 9 September, 2009 Share Posted 9 September, 2009 Good for him - great guy and a good player for us Another Morgan Schneiderlin. Has the ability, but never stamped his authority on games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 9 September, 2009 Share Posted 9 September, 2009 Another Morgan Schneiderlin. Has the ability, but never stamped his authority on games. Have you never considered that it might be the club that doesn't suit the players rather than the players not being up to the job. There have been far far too many cases of players declining into mediocrity for it to be just a random thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 9 September, 2009 Share Posted 9 September, 2009 Have you never considered that it might be the club that doesn't suit the players rather than the players not being up to the job. There have been far far too many cases of players declining into mediocrity for it to be just a random thing. I'd settle for a player who looked a little 'mediocre' in a team in the top 6 of the Premier League and FA Cup finalists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 9 September, 2009 Share Posted 9 September, 2009 I think he was criminally under-used at Saints. His best position, like Lallana's, is as an attacking midfielder, behind a front two. For the vast majority of his games Anders was stuck out on the right wing. He was (is?) a very skillful player on the ball and if he ahd been utilised correctly we would all be singing his praises (instead of just half of us). Congratulation Anders on picking up your 100th cap! Spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 9 September, 2009 Share Posted 9 September, 2009 Have you never considered that it might be the club that doesn't suit the players rather than the players not being up to the job. Oh, often. Don't you worry about that. But our mediocrity and lack of ambition is the issue for another discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 9 September, 2009 Author Share Posted 9 September, 2009 (edited) Have you never considered that it might be the club that doesn't suit the players rather than the players not being up to the job. I think that this is a good example in that Anders plays best in the role he has " in the hole " behind the strikers. None of the managers (after Stuart Gray who signed him) ever did that, and in consequence he was overly criticised (especially by Strachan ) for not pulling his weight in midfield. It was a similar situation with the later signing of Michael Nilsson. Saints " spotted " him in a Euro tournement where he distinguished himself by marking out two different wingers in Swedens qual. matches. However, that was purely because in an acute injury crisis with two regular full backs injured, the right-sided Nilsson was forced to play at left back ( by coach Lagerbäck.) the fact that he did OK then -was a pure fluke. He really isn't a natural full-back never occured to Saints when they bought him, and he was a great disappointment at full back for us. What would people say if Capello wanted Frank Lampard to play at left back ? (Nilsson is no Lampard - but his best games were as an attacking midfielder.) Edited 9 September, 2009 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 9 September, 2009 Share Posted 9 September, 2009 Congratulations Anders, well deserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 9 September, 2009 Share Posted 9 September, 2009 He was so rubbish? he played in the best Saints side for decades that got to the cup final and 8th in the premier league playing decent football at the same time and too packed grounds. I wish we had more crap players like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La BoIS Saint Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 He had a decent girlfriend, Anine Bing I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opthomps Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 He had a decent girlfriend, Anine Bing I think She was unbelievable. I was sitting behind her at the cup final and it was difficult to watch the game. Pure class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McAndrew Posted 10 September, 2009 Share Posted 10 September, 2009 not with her no more....married to Emma now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfredKo Posted 11 September, 2009 Share Posted 11 September, 2009 Another Rudi Skacel. I believe Anders Svensson and Rudi Skacel did put in some good performance for Saints but perhaps is never as good as when they play for the national team. But still Anders Svensson scored more goals then Oakley, Delap, etc while Skacel got more assist than Surman, Dyer, Idiakez in the play-off season. That tell you they are the best we have got to a certain degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 13 September, 2009 Author Share Posted 13 September, 2009 Another Rudi Skacel. I believe Anders Svensson and Rudi Skacel did put in some good performance for Saints but perhaps is never as good as when they play for the national team. But still Anders Svensson scored more goals then Oakley, Delap, etc while Skacel got more assist than Surman, Dyer, Idiakez in the play-off season. That tell you they are the best we have got to a certain degree. It still remains the problem that no matter WHO you buy - if you don't play him in HIS best position - then he won't perform at his best. Putting SOMEONE in another shirt because a team has injury problems /or / inadequacies may solve a selection problem but don't blame the player if he doesn't look good. Of course some players are versatile. Years ago we used the term " utility player " which really meant you could put them almost anywhere and they'd DAJFU. Fans tended to disown them because it looks like they had to change position in order to get in the team. Many times we were very glad we had players who could do just that. IMHO; players like Jimmy Gabriel, David Peach and Nick Holmes were outstanding because they could change - not everyone can. Those players you/we have mentioned were outstanding in their chosen role but often disappointed when played elsewhere by a desperate manager . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouchie Crouchie Posted 13 September, 2009 Share Posted 13 September, 2009 Best game I remember seeing him play was probably Leicester away a few seasons back one of his or Strachan's first games? can't remember. He was absolutely amazing and tore them apart with one or two goals and dominating the midfield. Shame he's never played like that too many times since for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Uwe Posted 13 September, 2009 Share Posted 13 September, 2009 IMHO I think he would have had a terrific career playing in Spain, Germany or Italy - anywhere where he would have had that little bit more time on the ball. I wouldn't know if he regretted coming to Saints, but I don't think our style of play (relatively direct with high tempo/pressing) suited him. That's just one of those things. He was a good servant to Saints and for £750k we shouldn't grumble. My fave moment was in the 4-0 Spurs game where he ran 50-60 yards before firing past Kasey Keller - happy days! A lot of people are very dismissive about Sweden; God knows why. Their international record is actually very good. For him to get 100 caps for them shows exactly how highly rated he is. So well done to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeky Monkey Posted 13 September, 2009 Share Posted 13 September, 2009 When I hear the name Anders Svensson. I smile. Its a nice smile. A very decent player. He seemed a decent bloke and a good professional. he reminds me of some of the best footy saints have played in the last 15 years as a team ( not one player - MLT). A team under WGS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 14 September, 2009 Author Share Posted 14 September, 2009 IMHO I think he would have had a terrific career playing in Spain, Germany or Italy - anywhere where he would have had that little bit more time on the ball. I wouldn't know if he regretted coming to Saints, but I don't think our style of play (relatively direct with high tempo/pressing) suited him. That's just one of those things. He was a good servant to Saints and for £750k we shouldn't grumble. My fave moment was in the 4-0 Spurs game where he ran 50-60 yards before firing past Kasey Keller - happy days! A lot of people are very dismissive about Sweden; God knows why. Their international record is actually very good. For him to get 100 caps for them shows exactly how highly rated he is. So well done to him. Actually Anders has been quoted as saying how much he admired Barcelona and Real Madrid. He stopped short of saying that he would like to play there - - but it's obvious the style of play he likes. One of my few gripes against WGS was that he didn't give Anders a prolonged run in the positon where he is best suited...." in the hole " behind the strikers. Anyway it's all water under the bridge now, but if Sweden qualify for the World Cup and he continues to play ..he'll likely finish up the second /third most-capped player in Swedish football history ..he need to get to 118...and he might well do it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 14 September, 2009 Share Posted 14 September, 2009 As I posted in the other Svensson thread on the international forum, Svensson is hardly a player that can only be used behind the strikers. For the last 50 or so caps he's gotten for Sweden is has been the holding midfielder. Yes, he can also play closer to the strikers and does so for Elfsborg but he is actually quite a versatile central midfielder. The problem for Svensson at Saints was that WGS was very reluctant to break up the combination of Delap and Oakley and the fact that he isn't a tackling player. A a result he was played on the wing quite often which is not his ideal position since he lacks speed. A shame really since I think he's a better player then both Oakley and Delap (although those two have better thrown-ins;)). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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