lordswoodsaints Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 He has just won £2m damages from Newcastle and is now free to pursue employment without it affecting his damages case. Chdagjfu? As director of football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 Would give the club a massive boost in the PR stakes.... has good contacts and never had a team that lacks goals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waggy Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 what next, someone seeing WGS coming out of sainsburys at hedge end with a toblerone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 Would give the club a massive boost in the PR stakes.... has good contacts and never had a team that lacks goals! Problem is as I see it that Pardew (who is still our manager ATM) thought that the DOF role was only good to help with transfers/agents and sorting that side out. Given the fact that KK signed some abysmal players at Newcastle and one of the reasons why they bought in a DOF so he couldnt buy any more duds I can't see KK being any good here apart from as you say PR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailOB Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 Problem is as I see it that Pardew (who is still our manager ATM) thought that the DOF role was only good to help with transfers/agents and sorting that side out. Given the fact that KK signed some abysmal players at Newcastle and one of the reasons why they bought in a DOF so he couldnt buy any more duds I can't see KK being any good here apart from as you say PR. Agree with that - not sure what Keegan could offer apart from very short sharp PR boost and quite frankly don't think thats what we need. I think (and i'm willing to be contradicted here), when he went to Newcastle he admitted he had not watched a live game of football for i think 2 yrs - this is not a man who still has his finger on the pulse of all that is happening in football, particularly the lower divisions. Also a man who has walked out on his last few jobs - not a stayer then either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonibell Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 Talking of news l see Portsmouth owner Sulaiman Al Fahim is reported to have been admitted to hospital. NO laughing guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Jazzbo Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 Personally I dont think Keegan is all that as a manager. If you compare him to Pardew what more has he done in terms of success? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 Keegan has just won £2m damages from Newcastle and is now free to pursue employment without it affecting his damages case. Chdagjfu? As director of football? Get him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 play him up front with Lambert...You all know it makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 Problem is as I see it that Pardew (who is still our manager ATM) thought that the DOF role was only good to help with transfers/agents and sorting that side out. Given the fact that KK signed some abysmal players at Newcastle and one of the reasons why they bought in a DOF so he couldnt buy any more duds I can't see KK being any good here apart from as you say PR. He has never had a problem with playing/encouraging attacking goal blessed football...... We are going to need to blast our way out from where we are so I think anyone who can remember that fooball is a dish best served littered with goals should be dragged aboard. He hads connection with the club, is one of those names that still causes a big draw and probably was n't as bad a manager as people make himout to be. Not great with pressure but then again we are n't exactly expecting him to deliver the Champions league are we?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 I don't rate him as a manager. Pards has been lambasted on his ''failiure'' at Charlton, yet Keegan did average at Newcastle the second time, average at Man City, below average for England. Only successes were more than a decade ago, and one was bankrolled by free spending (which won't happen here). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 Personally I dont think Keegan is all that as a manager. If you compare him to Pardew what more has he done in terms of success? Newcastle: 1st full season: Champions of old 2nd division 2nd: 3rd in Premier league and qulaified for UEFA cup 3rd: Challenging for title before fading to finish 6th 4th: 2nd Fulham: 1st: Champions of old 3rd division Man City: 1st: Champions of 1st division to premier league 2nd: 9th 3rd: 16th I don't think it's too shabby a record to be honest... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 In any role at the club, Keegan would add another 4 figures to the match day gate and bring a new level of buzz to the club. People can quote facts and figures to back up the 'no and 'yes' camps until the cows come home, but at a humanistic level, Keegan, in any role, would bring nothing but a good feel vibe to the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Fandango Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 In any role at the club, Keegan would add another 4 figures to the match day gate and bring a new level of buzz to the club. People can quote facts and figures to back up the 'no and 'yes' camps until the cows come home, but at a humanistic level, Keegan, in any role, would bring nothing but a good feel vibe to the club. .... right up until he doesn't get his own way, throws the toys out of his pram and walks away in a girly huff. Yep, great buzz that. I'm sure Newcastle love the buzz surrounding the court case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 .... right up until he doesn't get his own way, throws the toys out of his pram and walks away in a girly huff. Yep, great buzz that. I'm sure Newcastle love the buzz surrounding the court case. Fair point, well made... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 Keegan is like Hoddle. Big name, short on ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 Keegan is like Hoddle. Big name, short on ability. Yep and when the going gets tough.......he runs away... No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ribbo Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 walked into this thread thinking that pardew was promoting jordan keegan to play alongside Ricky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 2 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 2 October, 2009 After thinking about it and reading what a few of you have to say,I would think he would do more good at this club than he would bad. He has a decent track record outside of the prem,he would be a big draw for the fans and from the point of view of the press he is a story (good and bad) waiting to happen. How often to you get an ex England manager to get involved with a 1st division club? He might not of done too well with England but he didn't get the job because he was a crap manager,he got it because he was the best English manager available and he was the peoples choice. I think if the oppurtunity arises to acquire his services in any capacity ML and cortese would be stupid not to accept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 Keegan is like Hoddle. Big name, short on ability. Have a look at his record at club level as a whole and i think it's hard to argue that the man has huge ability as a manager. Whether people say he's a quitter or just past it as a manager is a different debate, but i really don't see how anyone can say he's a crap manager (which a few seem to be hinting at) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paris Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 From today's Standard.....(Not my view) So this multi-millionaire hypocrite supposedly "loves" NUFC, but is prepared to hold out for another £8-12m, which could possibly place them into administration. The man is a self-seeking, money grubbing, unprincipled bigot who years ago rudely turned down a personal invitation from, the then Prime Minister, Margaret Thatcher for dinner at 10 Downing Street on the principle that "my father was a miner". However, he has taken every capitalistic opportunity over the years (in no small way thanks to the Blessed Margaret's policies) to feather his own nest and when making any of his catalogue of mistakes or misjudgements, every single time, he readily blames everybody but himself. He's a charlatan and not fit to polish little Dennis's shoes. ESPN's bosses need their collective heads knocked together, to have brought him into their studio - he's tactically bereft and lacks any perspicacity. Wherever the repellent Gordon Brown slithers off to next year Keegan should join him - insidious, cunning comrades together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 From today's Standard.....(Not my view) So this multi-millionaire hypocrite supposedly "loves" NUFC, but is prepared to hold out for another £8-12m, which could possibly place them into administration. The man is a self-seeking, money grubbing, unprincipled bigot who years ago rudely turned down a personal invitation from, the then Prime Minister, Margaret Thatcher for dinner at 10 Downing Street on the principle that "my father was a miner". However, he has taken every capitalistic opportunity over the years (in no small way thanks to the Blessed Margaret's policies) to feather his own nest and when making any of his catalogue of mistakes or misjudgements, every single time, he readily blames everybody but himself. He's a charlatan and not fit to polish little Dennis's shoes. ESPN's bosses need their collective heads knocked together, to have brought him into their studio - he's tactically bereft and lacks any perspicacity. Wherever the repellent Gordon Brown slithers off to next year Keegan should join him - insidious, cunning comrades together. Hmm - I begin to see why they are going to give the Standard away. They presumably can't sell the cr*p they write. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8286660.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paris Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 It wasn't The Standard that wrote the piece it came from a fan.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 Keegan - No 'I wouldn't love it'. Emotion like money is only a short term motivator and the day we recruit based on PR potential is the day we may as well put Pinnacle in charge as they knew all about 'box office' appeal allegedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 First, on any measure of success Keegan has a tremendous record in club football. Win ratios and promotion, second to none. His only real failing was England. He wears his heart on his sleeve, so what? And to put to bed the myth about attacking football, when Newcastle finished second to Manchester United they conceded fewer goals. The following season, they conceded only four more... I would have loved him here as manager. But the time has passed. We have a manager. And what we need a DoF with no DoF experience for God only knows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 Someone has told me that Saints have delivered SFC training kit to Keegan's house this afternoon. FACT. He's starting on Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 Someone has told me that Saints have delivered SFC training kit to Keegan's house this afternoon. FACT. He's starting on Monday. Hahahahahah - nice one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 Someone has told me that Saints have delivered SFC training kit to Keegan's house this afternoon. FACT. He's starting on Monday. are you sure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 or is it a 'joke'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 Yep and when the going gets tough.......he runs away... No thanks. bloody good fun in the run up though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 (edited) what next, someone seeing WGS coming out of sainsburys at hedge end with a toblerone? You don't know how much we can laugh at that comment in Sweden. The colourless leader of the opposition Social Democrats in Sweden is called Mona Sahlin. Her hapless history has followed her around for 15 years. She was "guilty " of not paying lots of household bills; day-care, lots of parking tickets, and the mis-use of her Government credit card whilst on holiday, at the same time that her party wanted to raise everyones taxes. She used the dreaded credit card to buy nappies (not for her children) and ...(wait for it )...a Toberlone bar (and she couldn't pronouce it correctly either). Might seem weird to people in the U.K. but here Toberone is still one big laugh and means only one thing...Mona's blundering economy. (sorry it's not football) Edited 2 October, 2009 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 play him up front with Lambert...You all know it makes sense. best suggestion I've heard today !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 or is it a 'joke'? Christ, if you can't see a throwaway post for what it is, then the long explanation is.... It's a reference to one of our premium "I-go-to-the-training-ground-in-the-knowers" telling us that Saints had delivered training kit to Gordon Strachan's house over the summer and he was definitely, definitely our next manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 Keegan is like Hoddle. Big name, short on ability.# Hoddle was one of our (saints) most successful managers. Hoddle was a successful England manager who was sacked for non-footballing reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 Keegan - No 'I wouldn't love it'. Emotion like money is only a short term motivator and the day we recruit based on PR potential is the day we may as well put Pinnacle in charge as they knew all about 'box office' appeal allegedly. Of course 19C won't like KK since KK is a Lawrie Mac import. But actually I agree completely with 19C (never thought I would say that). WGS is the much better bet for Sporting Director if there needs to be an alternative to Coppell. And of course WGS is a Lowe man so will get 19C's support LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 Problem is as I see it that Pardew (who is still our manager ATM) thought that the DOF role was only good to help with transfers/agents and sorting that side out. Given the fact that KK signed some abysmal players at Newcastle and one of the reasons why they bought in a DOF so he couldnt buy any more duds I can't see KK being any good here apart from as you say PR. Probably right on this, and I can't help but think he'd try to interfere. Just a hunch though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 Lawrie would make the ideal DOF. His judgement in selecting Nigel Pearson shows that he's still got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgnorthSaint Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 Personally I dont think Keegan is all that as a manager. If you compare him to Pardew what more has he done in terms of success? So stop being lightweights and give this a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 # Hoddle was one of our (saints) most successful managers. Hoddle was a successful England manager who was sacked for non-footballing reasons. He was saints for barely a year, so cannot be described as one of our most successful manager, he was a glorified caretaker. And he was a miserable failure everywhere else, excluding Swindon, when he had Glenn Hoddle the player to pick in his team. Weirdo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 play him up front with Lambert...You all know it makes sense. I'm with you Ottery - he'd make a better striker now than a DOF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickyhale Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 Talking of news l see Portsmouth owner Sulaiman Al Fahim is reported to have been admitted to hospital. NO laughing guys Sorry had to laugh very down on his luck No wages/money put in hospital they say it comes in three what coming next for the bloke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 Lawrie would make the ideal DOF. His judgement in selecting Nigel Pearson shows that he's still got it. Who was Pearson's agent and how many other managers does that agent have on their books? I don't know the answer, just a hunch but it would be nice to get it confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 The option of bringing back KK as a feel good factor is now gone. IF we could win a game or two we'd have our own FgF way above what he could bring. BTW did you know WGS was offered the SD job, went away on vacation and turned it down. According to the bloke who washes the trucks at the cement works. Oh and yes the washer did say why, and no as he hasn't gone anywhere else yet I won't say just in case I need to beg for a Play off Final ticket one day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 Sorry had to laugh very down on his luck No wages/money put in hospital they say it comes in three what coming next for the bloke Apparently, his last big hope, Umm Al Quwain TV have decided not to buy the rights to his reality TV Hydra Executives Season 2. They were the last broadcaster left with any chance of paying anything to show it. Apparently he is in talks with PBS in the US Meanwhile bidding for the alternative Reality TV show - How not to buy a football club, produced by moi and starring Jacko, Lynam and Al Fahim has now reached 80 mil in bidding rights. Another week & I will buy Newcastle just to do them over as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 2 October, 2009 Share Posted 2 October, 2009 Of course 19C won't like KK since KK is a Lawrie Mac import. But actually I agree completely with 19C (never thought I would say that). WGS is the much better bet for Sporting Director if there needs to be an alternative to Coppell. And of course WGS is a Lowe man so will get 19C's support LOL Vectis my opinions of KK have nothing to do with lawrie McMenemy and more to do with his recent managerial record and the fact for 3 years after Man City he never watched a single game of football. IMO he is out of touch with the modern game to allow him to run a team beyond the initial isn't Kevin wonderful first few weeks. I wouldn't want WGS either as I believe he peaked with us and failed by comparable standards in a two horse race with Rangers barely have two pennies to run together allegedly. People will say WGS got Celtic through the group stages of the Champions League but considering some of the dubious quality at that level and 3 opponents it's hardly the biggest challenge with a 50% chance of success before you set out. In fact i would prefer Pearson over the both of them as like Lowe he would be the lesser evil of a fairly unappealing bunch. Best of 3 - that's all it ever was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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