Glasgow_Saint Posted 30 January, 2010 Share Posted 30 January, 2010 Puncheon signing appears to be the last until the summer - another top player added to our L1 squad. Seems we have stripped a number of L1 (& CCC) sides of there best player(s) and now must have the best squad to ever grace L1? GKs Davis Bart Forecast Poke DEF Fonte Jaidi Perry Thomas Harding Seaborne Otsemobor James Mills Murty Martin Lancashire Mid Lallana Puncheon Hammond Schneiderlin Gobern Gillett Wotton Holmes McLaggon Att Lambert Barnard Connolly Waigo Antonio That's a pretty formidable L1 squad. The best? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 30 January, 2010 Share Posted 30 January, 2010 Don't tell soggy he thinks we should be lucky to be equal to teams made up of frees and loans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 30 January, 2010 Share Posted 30 January, 2010 The best? I guess we can say we have the best ever squad when we get the best ever results. And we're a long way from that as yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 30 January, 2010 Share Posted 30 January, 2010 Putting it like that GS - I'd say yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 30 January, 2010 Share Posted 30 January, 2010 Good point at Brentford though.............. Midfield doesnt look too good there though, other than top 4 names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted 30 January, 2010 Share Posted 30 January, 2010 Looks pretty good to me, and should still be good next season even if a couple of the bigger names (Lambert/Lallana) have left. Hopefully we can keep them though. Anyone care to work out the approx. cost of each player and total squad cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 30 January, 2010 Author Share Posted 30 January, 2010 Looks pretty good to me, and should still be good next season even if a couple of the bigger names (Lambert/Lallana) have left. Hopefully we can keep them though. Anyone care to work out the approx. cost of each player and total squad cost? You will never get people to agree on that. I said that the team that played Brentford (Incl. Subs) had a transfer value of 10 million + but was told by quite a few that the 'true' value was more like 3 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 30 January, 2010 Author Share Posted 30 January, 2010 Good point at Brentford though.............. Midfield doesnt look too good there though, other than top 4 names. A midfield of Lallana, Puncheon, Hammond & Schneiderlin is pretty decent. Would be better than alot of CCC sides, let alone L1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 30 January, 2010 Share Posted 30 January, 2010 It's how we use them that counts. Up to now it has been pretty negative and unimaginative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doughnutman Posted 30 January, 2010 Share Posted 30 January, 2010 I think Leeds squad is better than ours IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dockland Dave Posted 30 January, 2010 Share Posted 30 January, 2010 no Leeds have the best squad in this league, we are playing catch up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 30 January, 2010 Share Posted 30 January, 2010 Puncheon signing appears to be the last until the summer - another top player added to our L1 squad. Seems we have stripped a number of L1 (& CCC) sides of there best player(s) and now must have the best squad to ever grace L1? GKs Davis Bart Forecast Poke DEF Fonte Jaidi Perry Thomas Harding Seaborne Otsemobor James Mills Murty Martin Lancashire Mid Lallana Puncheon Hammond Schneiderlin Gobern Gillett Wotton Holmes McLaggon Att Lambert Barnard Connolly Waigo Antonio That's a pretty formidable L1 squad. The best? and there are several players there who can do a good job in other areas; James into midfield Lallana and Puncheon up front Waigo and Antonio in midfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 30 January, 2010 Author Share Posted 30 January, 2010 I think Leeds squad is better than ours IMO Just because they are above us doesnt mean they have a better sqaud. player for player i'd say ours is quite significantly better than Leeds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 30 January, 2010 Share Posted 30 January, 2010 Beckford or lambert snodgrass it lallana gradel or puncheon kisnorbo or fonte becchio or Barnard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doughnutman Posted 30 January, 2010 Share Posted 30 January, 2010 Just because they are above us doesnt mean they have a better sqaud. player for player i'd say ours is quite significantly better than Leeds To resort to an old footballing cliche 'the table never lies'. First XI of both teams, I would say that saints may just edge it but in terms of depth leeds are still stronger than us I feel (this was certainly the case before January hence the difference in points as the majority of those were collected before the transfer window). We are not performing so well at the minute due to injuries to that first XI and tiredness and as a result our form has dipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 30 January, 2010 Author Share Posted 30 January, 2010 Beckford or lambert snodgrass it lallana gradel or puncheon kisnorbo or fonte becchio or Barnard Thats Leeds 5 best players and i'd still say Saints win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dockland Dave Posted 30 January, 2010 Share Posted 30 January, 2010 Just because they are above us doesnt mean they have a better sqaud. player for player i'd say ours is quite significantly better than Leeds and that is why they are about 25 points above us. Suspect Norwich squads also as good as ours. Glasgow Saint, I know you are probably around 12, and don't want to sound patronising, and trying to take an unbiased opinion. Leeds and Norwich appear to be a class above every other teamin this league. I know we knocked Norwich out of the JPS, but that was very lucky. Even without the 10pt deduction we would only be 9th. So to spout off with "we have the best squad in L1" can only be considered deluded or arrogant. I hope it is the former Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 30 January, 2010 Share Posted 30 January, 2010 Or docklands dave our quality is not showing at the mo and we are not winning more than we should If you really think it takes millions to be as good as Hartlepool then you are deluded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 30 January, 2010 Share Posted 30 January, 2010 (edited) Davis Bart Poke Murty Thomas Otse Fonte Jaidi Perry Seaborne Harding Mills Lallana Hammond Morgan Gillett James Puncheon Holmes Antonio Lambert Connolly Barnard Waigo Perhaps add an out and out right winger in summer. Jury still out on Seaborne and Otse obviously. Also think given the chance, Papa would do some serious damage up front. ..Good squad! Edited 30 January, 2010 by Avenue Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFSFC Posted 30 January, 2010 Share Posted 30 January, 2010 Pardew has done a good job, we have beaten norwich, charlton, ipswich, torquay, northampton at home and bristol rovers, mk dons, northampton away. The league has been average and had we of lost to Torquay on pens and lost to Bristol rovers away loads of people would be calling for his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Saint Posted 30 January, 2010 Share Posted 30 January, 2010 What team would everyone field if the team was fully fit?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 30 January, 2010 Share Posted 30 January, 2010 Maybe the question should be which would be the best squad under Pardew, Grayson or Lambert, that might be the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 30 January, 2010 Share Posted 30 January, 2010 Davis murty Harding fonte jaidi lallana Hammond Morgan puncheon lambert connolly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 30 January, 2010 Share Posted 30 January, 2010 What team would everyone field if the team was fully fit?. Davis Murty Fonte Jaidi Harding Lallana Hammond Morgan Puncheon Lambert Connolly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 30 January, 2010 Share Posted 30 January, 2010 Davis murty Harding fonte jaidi lallana Hammond Morgan puncheon lambert connolly lol.. u been reading minds dd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 30 January, 2010 Author Share Posted 30 January, 2010 and that is why they are about 25 points above us. Suspect Norwich squads also as good as ours. Glasgow Saint, I know you are probably around 12, and don't want to sound patronising, and trying to take an unbiased opinion. Leeds and Norwich appear to be a class above every other teamin this league. I know we knocked Norwich out of the JPS, but that was very lucky. Even without the 10pt deduction we would only be 9th. So to spout off with "we have the best squad in L1" can only be considered deluded or arrogant. I hope it is the former I didnt say we are 'Playing the best in L1' this thread is about our squad, not our form or should/would/could we be doing better. We are 15th - does every team above us have better squads (dont be daft) The only team I think can compete is Leeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 30 January, 2010 Author Share Posted 30 January, 2010 Davis Murty Fonte Jaidi Harding Lallana Hammond Morgan Puncheon Lambert Connolly That is an amazing L1 side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 30 January, 2010 Share Posted 30 January, 2010 That is an amazing L1 side. Lets hope it gets chance to be played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 30 January, 2010 Author Share Posted 30 January, 2010 Lets hope it gets chance to be played. Any idea where Murty is fitness wise? Back soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 30 January, 2010 Share Posted 30 January, 2010 "Best League 1 squad ever"? If I could paraphrase the great John Lennon (he's not even the best drummer in the Beatles), it's not the best League 1 squad this season, let alone ever. If we're talking about the 3rd flight there have been plenty better than ours. It's even debatable whether we're the best South coast squad to grace this level. The Boscombe side under John Bond were pretty decent with people like Boyer,MacDougall,Dave Jones, Mel Mechin, and Tony Powell going onto play in the top flight.I know times have changed, but we'll have done pretty well for 5 of ours to do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 30 January, 2010 Share Posted 30 January, 2010 (edited) Any idea where Murty is fitness wise? Back soon? os doesnt give date on latest justthat he's recovering. Glasgow, when u follow a team, u have to do all that is in your power to help contribute towards the best platform going forward. When u raise the bar so high, it inevitably raises pressure and not all pressure is healthy. Some might say one supporter's view counts for zilch and zero effect but the way you go on sometimes (with due respect) you'ld have to be blind or 5 yrs old to see how counter productive it is. Other ppl read what you write, you influence them in different little ways, then in a match situation when things not going well, some might dissagree but that support or encouragement when needed to buoy the players, just aint there.. cause and effect fella.. now the lessons over, i hope to see a change in the way you write. Cool? Edited 30 January, 2010 by Avenue Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 30 January, 2010 Share Posted 30 January, 2010 That is an amazing L1 side. It is and would be if it didn't keep getting diluted by injuries and manager's binkies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATERSIDEIFASAINT Posted 30 January, 2010 Share Posted 30 January, 2010 Dont know who is out of contract in the summer but assuming we can keep everyone we want to in the squad I think the following will be replaced in the summer:- Perry & Thomas Wooton & Gillett All likely to be moved on but you never know AP might feel they could do a job as squad players for another season Possibly Otsomber & Murty Holmes Waigo & Antonio Bart If AP does not want to keep these players or better players become available So I think there is likely to be atleast another 4/5 arrivals in the summer aswell assuming we are still in Div 1. What do other people think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 30 January, 2010 Author Share Posted 30 January, 2010 "Best League 1 squad ever"? If I could paraphrase the great John Lennon (he's not even the best drummer in the Beatles), it's not the best League 1 squad this season, let alone ever. If we're talking about the 3rd flight there have been plenty better than ours. It's even debatable whether we're the best South coast squad to grace this level. The Boscombe side under John Bond were pretty decent with people like Boyer,MacDougall,Dave Jones, Mel Mechin, and Tony Powell going onto play in the top flight.I know times have changed, but we'll have done pretty well for 5 of ours to do the same. Davis, Conolly, Perry and Jaidi have already played in the top flight - i'm confident Fonte, Lallana, Lambert and maybe Spiderman could do the same. Waigo has played in the top flight in Italy........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 30 January, 2010 Share Posted 30 January, 2010 "Best League 1 squad ever"? If I could paraphrase the great John Lennon (he's not even the best drummer in the Beatles), it's not the best League 1 squad this season, let alone ever. If we're talking about the 3rd flight there have been plenty better than ours. It's even debatable whether we're the best South coast squad to grace this level. The Boscombe side under John Bond were pretty decent with people like Boyer,MacDougall,Dave Jones, Mel Mechin, and Tony Powell going onto play in the top flight.I know times have changed, but we'll have done pretty well for 5 of ours to do the same. If you wanted to take that a stage further the 1959/60 Saints side would murder this lot. They scored for fun. Paine, O'Brien, Reeves, Mulgrew/Clifton and Sydenham were lethal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 30 January, 2010 Author Share Posted 30 January, 2010 os doesnt give date on latest justthat he's recovering. Glasgow, when u follow a team, u have to do all that is in your power to help contribute towards the best platform going forward. When u raise the bar so high, it inevitably raises pressure and not all pressure is healthy. Some might say one supporter's view counts for zilch and zero effect but the way you go on sometimes (with due respect) you'ld have to be blind or 5 yrs old to see how counter productive it is. Other ppl read what you right, you influence them in different little ways, then in a match situation when things not going well, some might dissagree but that support or encouragement when needed to buoy the players, just aint there.. cause and effect fella.. now the lessons over, i hope to see a change in the way you write. Cool? All cool! I'm glad you feel my posts have some effect on events, but trust me they don't. I am a passionate fan that likes to vent frustration on here from time to time. When I get chance to watch Saints I am super positive and get behind every player for the whole game (win, lose or draw) You will rarely see me criticize any player individually, my 'negative' posts are also mis-understood. I just want the best for Saints and feel that this season we could maybe have done better (results wise) If you could look back at my history here (Delldays will tell you) I was one of Burleys most vocal supporters, I was determined to back him while he remained our manager despite the growing pressure. I was banned from this site a few times for supporting him too agressively. I am a huge supporter of Saints - I simply use this site to discuss, debate and vent. I rarely get personal with any poster, just have an opinion and like to make sure every ****er on here hears it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 30 January, 2010 Share Posted 30 January, 2010 If you wanted to take that a stage further the 1959/60 Saints side would murder this lot. They scored for fun. Paine, O'Brien, Reeves, Mulgrew/Clifton and Sydenham were lethal. in fact they would have probably got their arse kicked into next week. Footballers have changed and a League 1 player now would probably have been a top flight star in 1959. If you took away every non British player from today's Prem all these lads would be minting it in the Prem by now.Football has been diluted by hundreds of mercenaries that didn't exist before and our lads are lower down the pecking order.If you look at 59/60 there weren't even many non white Brits playing pro football now there are hundreds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 30 January, 2010 Share Posted 30 January, 2010 All cool! I'm glad you feel my posts have some effect on events, but trust me they don't. I am a passionate fan that likes to vent frustration on here from time to time. When I get chance to watch Saints I am super positive and get behind every player for the whole game (win, lose or draw) You will rarely see me criticize any player individually, my 'negative' posts are also mis-understood. I just want the best for Saints and feel that this season we could maybe have done better (results wise) If you could look back at my history here (Delldays will tell you) I was one of Burleys most vocal supporters, I was determined to back him while he remained our manager despite the growing pressure. I was banned from this site a few times for supporting him too agressively. I am a huge supporter of Saints - I simply use this site to discuss, debate and vent. I rarely get personal with any poster, just have an opinion and like to make sure every ****er on here hears it Although if a manager isn't in the best interests of a club long term, then blind faith and ubber support is also not productive. But that isn't mine or your decision alone but just goes with the balance of facts, results and performances. I hear what you're saying. Cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 30 January, 2010 Share Posted 30 January, 2010 Puncheon signing appears to be the last until the summer - another top player added to our L1 squad. Seems we have stripped a number of L1 (& CCC) sides of there best player(s) and now must have the best squad to ever grace L1? You have to question what is the point, if the manager cannot pick a decent team from all of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 30 January, 2010 Share Posted 30 January, 2010 in fact they would have probably got their arse kicked into next week. Footballers have changed and a League 1 player now would probably have been a top flight star in 1959. If you took away every non British player from today's Prem all these lads would be minting it in the Prem by now.Football has been diluted by hundreds of mercenaries that didn't exist before and our lads are lower down the pecking order.If you look at 59/60 there weren't even many non white Brits playing pro football now there are hundreds. And Terry Paine, George O'Brien and John Sydenham wouldn't. If that team could murder Man City 5-1 at Maine Rd it could handle our lot. FFS we don't even play as a team just humping it up to Lambert. We need to put that right first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 30 January, 2010 Author Share Posted 30 January, 2010 You have to question what is the point, if the manager cannot pick a decent team from all of that? We will no doubt add again in the summer - we WILL go up next season (Top 2) for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 30 January, 2010 Share Posted 30 January, 2010 For a rebuuilding season, I think the rebuilding has gone mother ****ing well! A JPT trophy or victory over the Skates and a high mid-table finish would please most Saints fans, and with a couple of quality additions in the summer...........I genuinely can't see why we can't win the league next season. We'll be the team to beat - and I hope we relish in that title! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulSaint Posted 30 January, 2010 Share Posted 30 January, 2010 What was Newcastles "Harrods paid for it" squad like when they were promoted from the 3rd tier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 30 January, 2010 Share Posted 30 January, 2010 What was Newcastles "Harrods paid for it" squad like when they were promoted from the 3rd tier? Fulham surely. Exceptional Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 30 January, 2010 Share Posted 30 January, 2010 no Leeds have the best squad in this league, we are playing catch up i dont agree, they have 3 very goood players in Beckford, Snodgrass and the Beccio (spl) but no back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Saint Posted 30 January, 2010 Share Posted 30 January, 2010 Davis Murty Fonte Jaidi Harding Lallana Hammond Morgan Puncheon Lambert Connolly What players from Leeds or Norwich would get into this squad? I think Saints players would outnumber either of theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulSaint Posted 30 January, 2010 Share Posted 30 January, 2010 Fulham surely. Exceptional Doh, your right! The keegan element confused my fuddled brain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oejwells Posted 30 January, 2010 Share Posted 30 January, 2010 You have to question what is the point, if the manager cannot pick a decent team from all of that? well at least it weakens the opposition. e.g. puncheon wont be playing the second leg for either team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 30 January, 2010 Author Share Posted 30 January, 2010 well at least it weakens the opposition. e.g. puncheon wont be playing the second leg for either team and he can give AP some inside MKD secrets...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 30 January, 2010 Share Posted 30 January, 2010 You have to question what is the point, if the manager cannot pick a decent team from all of that? very good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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