Thedelldays Posted 14 February, 2010 Share Posted 14 February, 2010 assuming for a mo that promotion is not going to happen..will we be able to keep hold of him..? dont feed me the lines about not needing to sell etc as if a player wants out then that is what will happen.. I am really worried someone from the CCC or even the prem will go for him... :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 14 February, 2010 Share Posted 14 February, 2010 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 14 February, 2010 Yes. why so sure..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 14 February, 2010 Share Posted 14 February, 2010 why so sure..? Because I believe he will be. I don't think he would of signed the contract he did if he wasn't prepared to play for another season. Plus even if he did want to leave he is professional enough, IMO, to carry on playing to the end of his contract if we didn't want to sell him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 14 February, 2010 Share Posted 14 February, 2010 Im sure he will be, when we signed him AP must have suggested that we might not go up this season. I mean we were on -9 when he came. I think if we don't go up next season then he could be in danger of leaving but would think he will stick around for next season at least. Don't worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractor_Saint Posted 14 February, 2010 Share Posted 14 February, 2010 why so sure..? Money - we have Championship (and some) cash and if he's deemed pivotal to our campaign next year then: a) he'll be guaranteed a place in the team b) he'll be paid sufficiently to take us to the next stage (whatever that might be). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 14 February, 2010 Money - we have Championship (and some) cash and if he's deemed pivotal to our campaign next year then: a) he'll be guaranteed a place in the team b) he'll be paid sufficiently to take us to the next stage (whatever that might be). we wont be the only team that could afford to pay him £6-8k a week you know.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 14 February, 2010 Share Posted 14 February, 2010 Most Championship clubs are in trouble and couldn't afford his transfer fee and/or wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 14 February, 2010 Most Championship clubs are in trouble and couldn't afford his transfer fee and/or wages. but not all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 14 February, 2010 Share Posted 14 February, 2010 Yes. He would cost 2m at least, nobody much in the CCC has that money apart from promotion challenger or relegated teams. For them there are probably better options given that Rickie is not young and we wouldn't sell for cheap. Schneiderlin and Lallana more likely to go IMO but let's just see. If we play like first hour yesterday we could win nearly every game that's left. Playoff not totally over IMO but can only afford one more loss and one or two draws tops. Plus obviously others dropping points! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 14 February, 2010 Share Posted 14 February, 2010 Yes. Good wages, scores very regularly and is getting on a bit for teams looking to get a future prospect (ie. beckford) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 14 February, 2010 Share Posted 14 February, 2010 Yes. Good wages, scores very regularly and is getting on a bit for teams looking to get a future prospect (ie. beckford) You realise he's only a year younger than Lambert don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 14 February, 2010 personally...I reckon leeds may come in with a bid in the summer..and maybe Forest/WBA if they dont go up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 14 February, 2010 Share Posted 14 February, 2010 He is also on a 3 year deal. He knew when he signed that the chances of promotion this season wouldn't be great and only a possibility. The club can quite easily afford to turn down all but a huge offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_boysie Posted 14 February, 2010 Share Posted 14 February, 2010 I think Ricky brought into the 2yr plan of getting out this league.. next January could be interesting though, I hope not, i think he gets on with AP so im not worrying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 14 February, 2010 Share Posted 14 February, 2010 but not all... Care to mention a team that we can't compete with in terms of ££? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 14 February, 2010 Share Posted 14 February, 2010 a future prospect (ie. beckford) Beckford is 26 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 14 February, 2010 He is also on a 3 year deal. He knew when he signed that the chances of promotion this season wouldn't be great and only a possibility. The club can quite easily afford to turn down all but a huge offer. that is my point..no one really took a punt on him before...now he is a goal machine of the highest order...he is bound to attract bids us being loaded will mean little if a team highly fancied for promotion to the prem..or a team in the prem comes in for him and his head gets turned.. maybe a WGS signing...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 14 February, 2010 Share Posted 14 February, 2010 that is my point..no one really took a punt on him before...now he is a goal machine of the highest order...he is bound to attract bids us being loaded will mean little if a team highly fancied for promotion to the prem..or a team in the prem comes in for him and his head gets turned.. maybe a WGS signing...? Some papers if to be believed said he turned down Middlesbrough to come to Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 14 February, 2010 Care to mention a team that we can't compete with in terms of ££? as I have said..it matters not how much we have..if a team who are really fancied for promotion to the prem,..or a team in the prem came in for him..his head could easily get turned and unless we offer his £20k a week..then they could offer comparable wages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 14 February, 2010 Share Posted 14 February, 2010 that is my point..no one really took a punt on him before...now he is a goal machine of the highest order...he is bound to attract bids us being loaded will mean little if a team highly fancied for promotion to the prem..or a team in the prem comes in for him and his head gets turned.. maybe a WGS signing...? Now? He scored 29 goals last season, didn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 14 February, 2010 Now? He scored 29 goals last season, didn't he? and by all accounts..loved the nights on the **** and the pies...bit like lee trundle did.. from what pards has said in the past, he has changed.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 14 February, 2010 Share Posted 14 February, 2010 as I have said..it matters not how much we have..if a team who are really fancied for promotion to the prem,..or a team in the prem came in for him..his head could easily get turned and unless we offer his £20k a week..then they could offer comparable wages He's nowhere near good enough for the premiership and no one will take that sort of gamble, period. With the current set up we will see off any CCC club that comes knocking. He's here for a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 14 February, 2010 Share Posted 14 February, 2010 As I said a minute ago when he signed for Saints a number of paper said he turned down a bid from Middlesbrough. http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/boro-fc/boro-fc-news/2009/08/11/southampton-snap-up-boro-target-rickie-lambert-84229-24370493/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 14 February, 2010 As I said a minute ago when he signed for Saints a number of paper said he turned down a late bid from Middlesbrough. http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/boro-fc/boro-fc-news/2009/08/11/southampton-snap-up-boro-target-rickie-lambert-84229-24370493/ excuse me whilst I dont believe the paper for a mo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 14 February, 2010 Share Posted 14 February, 2010 and by all accounts..loved the nights on the **** and the pies...bit like lee trundle did.. from what pards has said in the past, he has changed.... Not the point. He was a fantastic goalscorer last season and so definitely attracted a lot of interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 14 February, 2010 Share Posted 14 February, 2010 That year is the peak of his career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 14 February, 2010 He's on where near good enough for the premiership and no one will take that sort of gamble, period. With the current set up we will see off any CCC club that comes knocking. He's here for a bit. maybe...but we took ormerod..someone else took Zamora..both were no where near as good as lambert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 14 February, 2010 Share Posted 14 February, 2010 excuse me whilst I dont believe the paper for a mo The bloke who announced we were trying to sign Lambert on here a few days before he actually signed (tac-tics I think) said that Boro were trying to hijack the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 14 February, 2010 Not the point. He was a fantastic goalscorer last season and so definitely attracted a lot of interest. I bet he attracts even more now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 14 February, 2010 Share Posted 14 February, 2010 If he was going to move to a championship club, i believe he would have done by now. He had the chance in the summer, with boro interested. As some have said above, most championship clubs are having to reduce their budgets - so i don't believe anyone will throw 2.5-3m on a player, who at 27, is yet to prove himself outside of the bottom 2 divisions. I know he'll probably go on and score in a level above as well, but in this day and age clubs aren't going to gamble that amount of money away. He is safe with us for next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 14 February, 2010 Share Posted 14 February, 2010 maybe...but we took ormerod..someone else took Zamora..both were no where near as good as lambert Brett wasn't exactly a roaring success and was soon playing back at his true level so that leaves Zomorra, who had the thing that Lambert lacks but the EPL needs, pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 14 February, 2010 well..I hope he is safe as without him..we would struggle in a big way IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 14 February, 2010 Share Posted 14 February, 2010 well..I hope he is safe as without him..we would struggle in a big way IMO Its not really a massive worry because if he did leave in the summer(which I am very confident he won't) it would be for around £2m and Pardew would just be given the funds to buy another quality striker for whichever league Saints are in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 14 February, 2010 Share Posted 14 February, 2010 well..I hope he is safe as without him..we would struggle in a big way IMO Any team would struggle if they lost their leading goalscorer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 14 February, 2010 Any team would struggle if they lost their leading goalscorer. maybe...leeds have won all their league games without Beckford this season...I very much doubt we would do so without lambert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 14 February, 2010 Share Posted 14 February, 2010 as I have said..it matters not how much we have..if a team who are really fancied for promotion to the prem,..or a team in the prem came in for him..his head could easily get turned and unless we offer his £20k a week..then they could offer comparable wages The point is he is on a contract for 3 years, and even if they are offering £20k a week they cant pay him until the end of his contract, unless of course they make an offer to us that makes it so stupid to turn down the offer would hurt our chances i.e. £10M and we could finish building the team to challenge not only league 1 but even CCC. The point is we own his registration and unless we get the compensation we think is acceptable he is not going anywhere. We do not have to sell unless AP, ML & NC think it of benefit for the club. Easy way is slap a ridiculous transfer fee on him to put the poachers off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 14 February, 2010 The point is he is on a contract for 3 years, and even if they are offering £20k a week they cant pay him until the end of his contract, unless of course they make an offer to us that makes it so stupid to turn down the offer would hurt our chances i.e. £10M and we could finish building the team to challenge not only league 1 but even CCC. The point is we own his registration and unless we get the compensation we think is acceptable he is not going anywhere. We do not have to sell unless AP, ML & NC think it of benefit for the club. Easy way is slap a ridiculous transfer fee on him to put the poachers off. what if he does a Kenwyn..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 14 February, 2010 Share Posted 14 February, 2010 maybe...leeds have won all their league games without Beckford this season...I very much doubt we would do so without lambert You don't seem to realise that if Saints sold Lambert(which they won't) then they would buy another top quality striker with the cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 14 February, 2010 You don't seem to realise that if Saints sold Lambert(which they won't) then they would buy another top quality striker with the cash. ok..if lambert was out for the rest of the season..who do we have that could do his role..? oh..I am aware that we would spunk more money on players... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 14 February, 2010 Share Posted 14 February, 2010 I can't see any Championship club offering us £1.5m + for him tbh. We won't want to sell him for the amount we brought him for and will want to make a bit of a profit. I hope he is still here as he is the best striker we've had since Beattie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 14 February, 2010 Share Posted 14 February, 2010 ok..if lambert was out for the rest of the season..who do we have that could do his role..? oh..I am aware that we would spunk more money on players... No-one to do his role. They'd just change the style of play. Connolly, Papa Waigo and Barnard are all very capable of scoring a lot of goals in League One. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 14 February, 2010 No-one to do his role. They'd just change the style of play. Connolly, Papa Waigo and Barnard are all very capable of scoring a lot of goals in League One. great....that will be another 5 games of adjustment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 14 February, 2010 Share Posted 14 February, 2010 great....that will be another 5 games of adjustment All it would mean is you'd play two out of Connolly, Barnard and Waigo upfront in a 442 and not play the long ball to flick on with Lambert's head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 14 February, 2010 Share Posted 14 February, 2010 Dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 14 February, 2010 All it would mean is you'd play two out of Connolly, Barnard and Waigo upfront in a 442 and not play the long ball to flick on with Lambert's head. simple as that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genk Posted 14 February, 2010 Share Posted 14 February, 2010 No way is Lambert a Premiership player and I don't believe Beckford is either. Both are CCC at best and I am pretty confident Rickie will be a Saints player next season. If he has another 25 goal+ season next year and we fail to go up then I can see him moving. I know it doesn't mean much but he is currently building a house in North Baddesley. Hopefully he will be with us for our time in the CCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 14 February, 2010 Share Posted 14 February, 2010 Well, put it this way, 1.Nobody in the CCC or L1 can pay him more than us 2.13 teams in the BPL cannot offer him the prospect of medals 3.The other seven ManU, Chelsea, Arsenal, L'pool, Villa, ManC & Spurs don't need him as they already have better people 4. He'll never be in the frame for Engerland If he's happy here under Alan Pardew what is there to move for? He's first on the taemsheet every week, never gets subbed, we are on our way up - not this year obviously - but next. I think faced with all of that he might sta. I know those pr**ks at ITV are trying to undermine our success already - no doubt you heard yesterday's comment about Rickie lambert? "The BIG clubs are beginning to show some interest in RL" The Big clubs !!!! WTFITAA!!! Big Clubs? We are a BIG club down on its luck, they mean clubs in a higher league. Somehow I doubt Rickie Lambert is the sort of bloke to have his head turned by the many block-brained managers that plague the higher leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 14 February, 2010 Share Posted 14 February, 2010 He'll stay if he's happy, which he appears to be right now. However, I think he's ambitious, and we must be moving up - this year or next. We must also play to his skills. I'm not sure how happy he'll be if we continue to expect him to take attacking free kicks from the touchline, rather than wait for them in the middle. That's an experiment that needs to end. Now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 14 February, 2010 Share Posted 14 February, 2010 ok..if lambert was out for the rest of the season..who do we have that could do his role..? oh..I am aware that we would spunk more money on players... That wasn't the topic of the thread though was it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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