The Truth about Nick Clegg

[dune]

Clegg's father and brother both had illustrious careers in banks that promoted the sort of 'risky' lending the LibDems now want to ban. Records from Companies House show Clegg's father, Nicholas, is still a chairman of the United Trust Bank, which specialises in financing property developers.

 

He has been at the bank since 2001, where the highest-paid director earned £235,000 last year despite the bank making a loss of £464,000.

 

 

 

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/election/article-1266677/ELECTION-2010-Clegg-plays-Northerner-really-posh-Dave.html#ixzz0lL6pXYqt

[View From The Top]

[bungle]

lol. Well, I think this proves the Tories are running scared.

[CB Saint]

Clegg's father and brother both had illustrious careers in banks that promoted the sort of 'risky' lending the LibDems now want to ban. Records from Companies House show Clegg's father, Nicholas, is still a chairman of the United Trust Bank, which specialises in financing property developers.

 

He has been at the bank since 2001, where the highest-paid director earned £235,000 last year despite the bank making a loss of £464,000.

 

 

 

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/election/article-1266677/ELECTION-2010-Clegg-plays-Northerner-really-posh-Dave.html#ixzz0lL6pXYqt

 

I would love to be a fly on the wall at the next family gathering when Nick tells his dad and brother that they will only be allowed a cash bonus of £2,500. I reckon relationships may be a little strained.

[bridge too far]

Well, if we're into visiting the sins of the father / brother / whatever, how about this:

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/conservative/georgeosborne/7250228/George-Osbornes-brother-prescribed-drugs-to-friends.html

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1233762/George-Osborne-brothers-Muslim-love-match-converts-Islam-marry-Bangladeshi-girl.html

 

http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/59827,people,news,george-osborne-adam-brother-gave-drugs-to-addict-muslim-wife-noor

 

Sorry to sink to your level.

[Scudamore]

So what exactly am i getting outraged by here?

 

Nick Clegg's family work for a living?

 

Ooh that makes me so mad.

[bridge too far]

Clegg's father and brother both had illustrious careers in banks that promoted the sort of 'risky' lending the LibDems now want to ban. Records from Companies House show Clegg's father, Nicholas, is still a chairman of the United Trust Bank, which specialises in financing property developers.

 

He has been at the bank since 2001, where the highest-paid director earned £235,000 last year despite the bank making a loss of £464,000.

 

 

 

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/election/article-1266677/ELECTION-2010-Clegg-plays-Northerner-really-posh-Dave.html#ixzz0lL6pXYqt

 

And have a look at Cameron's illustrious forebears:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Cameron

 

all stockbrokers / bankers!

[thesaint sfc]

So what exactly am i getting outraged by here?

 

Nick Clegg's family work for a living?

 

Ooh that makes me so mad.

 

Indeed. I fear a vain may have just popped in my eye because I am so furious.

[benjii]

Who gives a toss?

 

Bankers are largely erudite, well educated and have the balls to take big decisions. I also suspect the background of most of Labour's front bench is similarly privileged.

 

I'd certainly prefer that sort of person to morons like Prescott or the Trade Union nest-feathering ignorant luddites.

[bridge too far]

Who gives a toss?

 

Bankers are largely erudite, well educated and have the balls to take big decisions. I also suspect the background of most of Labour's front bench is similarly privileged.

 

I'd certainly prefer that sort of person to morons like Prescott or the Trade Union nest-feathering ignorant luddites.

 

It doesn't bother me either. I just wanted to give the Dune fella a run for his money. However, since we're discussing backgrounds:

 

Alistair Darling's grandfather was a Conservative MP, for example.

 

The Millibands' dad was an intellectual.

 

Gordon's father, we know, was a Minister of religion.

 

Andy Burnham's dad was a telephone engineer.

 

Mandelson's father was an advertising manager for the Jewish Chronicle.

 

Prescott's dad was a railway signalman and his grandfather a miner. After working in the Merchant Navy, Prescott went to Oxford and then Hull University.

 

HTH

[benjii]

Sorry, I'm supposed to believe Prescott isn't a moron simply because he once attended Oxford even though all available evidence since suggests he's a massive moron?

[benjii]

And I've just checked and he didn't go to Oxford University, (I'm not sure if you were suggesting he did), he went to Ruskin College, in Oxford which specialises in providing educational opportunities for adults with few or no qualifications.

[bridge too far]

No I wasn't suggesting that. Ruskin College is the equivalent of an access course. A diploma from Ruskin enables adults to go on to University, as Prescott did.

[View From The Top]

I'd certainly prefer that sort of person to morons like Prescott or the Trade Union nest-feathering ignorant luddites.

 

Like Alan Johnson you mean?

[View From The Top]

Sorry, I'm supposed to believe Prescott isn't a moron simply because he once attended Oxford even though all available evidence since suggests he's a massive moron?

 

I think you're being too kind to him TBF.

Edited 17 April, 2010 by View From The Top
Typo of the worst kind!

[bridge too far]

I think you're being to kind to him TBF.

 

mo·ron (môrn, mr-)

n. 1. A stupid person; a dolt.

2. Psychology A person of mild mental retardation having a mental age of from 7 to 12 years and generally having communication and social skills enabling some degree of academic or vocational education. The term belongs to a classification system no longer in use and is now considered offensive.

 

 

Strictly speaking, he isn't.

 

I expect he knows that your post should read 'too kind' instead of 'to kind'.

[RedAndWhite91]

This is the worst smear campaign in the history of sh!t smear campaigns.

[View From The Top]

mo·ron (môrn, mrmr-)

n. 1. A stupid person; a dolt.

2. Psychology A person of mild mental retardation having a mental age of from 7 to 12 years and generally having communication and social skills enabling some degree of academic or vocational education. The term belongs to a classification system no longer in use and is now considered offensive.

 

 

Strictly speaking, he isn't.

 

I expect he knows that your post should read 'too kind' instead of 'to kind'.

 

Prescott was the worst kind of Labour politician.

 

One that starts of as an ordinary working class lad but who becomes so enthralled by the trappings of wealth and power that he uses his roots to maintain his status despite being so far removed from them he's lost sight of the need for truth.

[bridge too far]

I agree with you that he's not a good role model. There are a lot of politicians from all parties that are as guilty as he is.

 

However, the thread was about backgrounds. I was simply pointing out the backgrounds of a few of those in the spotlight.

 

It does annoy me, however, when people say some people are morons when they're patently not.

[benjii]

Prescott was the worst kind of Labour politician.

 

One that starts of as an ordinary working class lad but who becomes so enthralled by the trappings of wealth and power that he uses his roots to maintain his status despite being so far removed from them he's lost sight of the need for truth.

 

Exactly. And he's as thick as pig ****. People like that shouldn't have power.

[View From The Top]

I agree with you that he's not a good role model. There are a lot of politicians from all parties that are as guilty as he is.

 

Goes without saying but, IMHO, Prescott was guilty of hypocrisy of the worst kind.

Edited 17 April, 2010 by View From The Top

[Saint_clark]

If you're stooping to this kind of sh*t then it's clear the Tories really are worried.

[benjii]

It does annoy me, however, when people say some people are morons when they're patently not.

 

"A stupid person, or dolt."

 

:confused:

[bridge too far]

"A stupid person, or dolt."

 

:confused:

 

In 1965 you wouldn't get a degree in Economics and Economic history if you were a stupid person or a dolt.

[benjii]

Back to the article.... he seems like a good bloke.

[benjii]

In 1965 you wouldn't get a degree in Economics and Economic history if you were a stupid person or a dolt.

 

Well, I beg to differ as he seems to be a stupid person or dolt and he apparently got a degree in Economics and Economic History in 1968 (according to Wiki).

 

Perhaps he is not a stupid person or dolt but he certainly comes across as one which I suggest is even more of an inglorious achievement than actually being one.

[SuperMikey]

This is the worst smear campaign in the history of sh!t smear campaigns.

 

+1

 

The notoriously Conservative Daily Mail are trying anything to get a win, which is fair enough, but they could at least make something up rather than tell us that his father was a banker.... DUM DUM DURRRRRRR!

[RedAndWhite91]

+1

 

The notoriously Conservative Daily Mail are trying anything to get a win, which is fair enough, but they could at least make something up rather than tell us that his father was a banker.... DUM DUM DURRRRRRR!

 

Hahaha yeah. Nick Clegg's Dad In Working For A Living Shocker. You're spot on there Mikey.

[Lord Duckhunter]

Jack Straw's Dad was a Conscientious objector, who was sent to prison in 1939.

 

 

Backgrounds dont matter, Churchill came from a very privilidged background. What matters is integrity and honesty.When you see Labour people going on about Eton and the like, they gloss over the fact that loads of them went to fee paying schools. Look at that great leftie Diane Abbott, opposed to private education, yet sends her child to a fee paying school.

 

In the case of that great class warrior Prescott, the picture of him playing croquet on the lawns of Dornywood, sum him up more than words could ever do. The great class warrior, whose rallied against the establishment and yet now wants to join the house of Lords.

 

Does it matter what Clegg's Dad did, of course not. However had David Davis' or William Hague's Dad been a banker you can bet your life the Labour spin machine would be ramming it down our throats

[JackFrost]

Clegg's father and brother both had illustrious careers in banks that promoted the sort of 'risky' lending the LibDems now want to ban. Records from Companies House show Clegg's father, Nicholas, is still a chairman of the United Trust Bank, which specialises in financing property developers.

 

He has been at the bank since 2001, where the highest-paid director earned £235,000 last year despite the bank making a loss of £464,000.

 

 

 

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/election/article-1266677/ELECTION-2010-Clegg-plays-Northerner-really-posh-Dave.html#ixzz0lL6pXYqt

 

Er no, that's the truth about Nick Clegg's mum and dad.

 

Try again.

[Crab Lungs]

Um... it was only a matter of time before he was discredited in some way.

 

Thats what we do over here, right? Build 'em up and knock 'em down twice as hard.

[sperm_john]

see I would consider voting Lib Dem if it wasnt for the Trident issue ...darn its annoying they are ruled out because of that

[View From The Top]

see I would consider voting Lib Dem if it wasnt for the Trident issue ...darn its annoying they are ruled out because of that

 

 

I'd love to know why you think we need a relic of the Cold War and not a modern airbourne delivery system with which to nuke who exactly?

 

I'd sooner 1/10 of the cost of Trident was spent where it was really needed with HM Forces.

[Thedelldays]

I'd love to know why you think we need a relic of the Cold War and not a modern airbourne delivery system with which to nuke who exactly?

 

I'd sooner 1/10 of the cost of Trident was spent where it was really needed with HM Forces.

because the "modern" (not sure why you say that) is no way as effective..and you know this being ex navy

[Lord Duckhunter]

Their policies over defence are as barking as half their other policies.

 

Trident will not be replaced, Eurofighter orders will be cancelled and military action against a nuclear-arming Iran is categorically ruled out. What will they replace Trident with? They dont know yet, so I presume they dont know how much it costs, however they've calculated the savings?

 

NHS spending is not protected under the Lib/Dems, Tory and Labour policy is to protect it.

 

They also have a policy that all Britain's energy should come from renewable sources within 40 years.

 

The £10,000 tax bribe as well as being unfunded, will not help the pooerst in the Country, the poorest including pensioners, pay hardly any tax as it is. Who will benefit the most from it? The middle earners (who happen to be their target voters in Tory areas).

 

Sit back and imagine the outcry if Camerons policies included not ringfencing NHS spending, tax bribes for middle income earners, and shutting down every nuclear reactor and dirty coal-fired station within 40 years.

 

What would the outcry be if Labour were committed to the Euro, ruled out military action against Iran, no matter what they did,and had plans to slash our defence spending.

 

As for their immigration policy, that truly is bonkers.

 

 

This thread is "The truth about Nick Clegg", it should be "The truth about Lib/Dem policies". It sounds great in theory, this third force in UK politics, but in practise, they're half baked. Labour or Tory,is the only choice, I'm afraid.

[Seaford Saint]

Their policies over defence are as barking as half their other policies.

 

Trident will not be replaced, Eurofighter orders will be cancelled and military action against a nuclear-arming Iran is categorically ruled out. What will they replace Trident with? They dont know yet, so I presume they dont know how much it costs, however they've calculated the savings?

 

NHS spending is not protected under the Lib/Dems, Tory and Labour policy is to protect it.

 

They also have a policy that all Britain's energy should come from renewable sources within 40 years.

 

The £10,000 tax bribe as well as being unfunded, will not help the pooerst in the Country, the poorest including pensioners, pay hardly any tax as it is. Who will benefit the most from it? The middle earners (who happen to be their target voters in Tory areas).

 

Sit back and imagine the outcry if Camerons policies included not ringfencing NHS spending, tax bribes for middle income earners, and shutting down every nuclear reactor and dirty coal-fired station within 40 years.

 

What would the outcry be if Labour were committed to the Euro, ruled out military action against Iran, no matter what they did,and had plans to slash our defence spending.

 

As for their immigration policy, that truly is bonkers.

 

 

This thread is "The truth about Nick Clegg", it should be "The truth about Lib/Dem policies". It sounds great in theory, this third force in UK politics, but in practise, they're half baked. Labour or Tory,is the only choice, I'm afraid.

 

What a load of old tosh!!! There can be only Labour or Conservative...no one else could possibly have better ideas can they?

[Wilko]

The truth being:

 

He wants to give a tax cut to everyone society, bringing an increase in the living standards of millions of the poorest people around.

He wants to abandon ID cards.

He wants to stop the country spending £100bn on Trident renewal. Let's not forget that nearly everybody in the world agrees it would be immoral to use these weapons, so why would we possibly want to spend so much on them?

He wants to put 3,000 more police on the streets.

His manifesto includes details on how he would pay for his spending pledges.

 

What a villain this man is. He's clearly a bad egg.

[JackFrost]

Goes without saying but, IMHO, Prescott was guilty of hypocrisy of the worst kind.

 

He was the first in with the Tory sleaze allegations back in the 90s, then in the 00s bonks his secretary when he's not playing a round of croquet.

 

Buffoon of the highest order.

[bridge too far]

He was the first in with the Tory sleaze allegations back in the 90s, then in the 00s bonks his secretary when he's not playing a round of croquet.

 

Buffoon of the highest order.

 

He's not the only MP who's ever bonked a secretary, other female or even a male!

 

Are you only allowed to play croquet if you belong to the priveleged few, then?

[Lord Duckhunter]

The truth being:

 

He wants to give a tax cut to everyone society, bringing an increase in the living standards of millions of the poorest people around.

 

The very poorest dont pay hardly any income tax as it is. The biggest benefit will be felt by the middle earners.

He wants to abandon ID cards.

 

So do the Torys

 

 

He wants to stop the country spending £100bn on Trident renewal. Let's not forget that nearly everybody in the world agrees it would be immoral to use these weapons, so why would we possibly want to spend so much on them?

 

All he siad was he was not going to replace it with like for like, he still wants a Nuclear option,but just a cheaper one. He hasn't yet spelt out what it is, but has costed the savings.

 

 

He wants to put 3,000 more police on the streets.

 

Paid for how?

His manifesto includes details on how he would pay for his spending pledges.

 

His costings are a fairy story, tax avoidence will not save him what he says,it's all pie in the sky.

 

What a villain this man is. He's clearly a bad egg.

 

He wont pretect NHS spending, wants to join the Euro, will not take action against Iran even if it goes nuclear against Isreal, wants to limit immigrants to certain areas only. So we agree on that point

 

Clegg and the Lib/Dems will be found out now there's more interest in them. Dont forget at the last election they covered up their Leaders illness, an illness that made him unfit for office, but Clegg and Cable covered it up for electrol advantage.

[JackFrost]

He's not the only MP who's ever bonked a secretary, other female or even a male!

 

Are you only allowed to play croquet if you belong to the priveleged few, then?

 

The point I'm merely making is Prescott bonking his secretary and playing croquet when he should have been running the country in Blair's absence etc, was sickening irony and hypocrisy of the highest order considering Prescott's actions when the 90s Tory scandals were the order of the day.

 

Of all the hypocritical/sleazy MPs on all sides of the house, Prescott is up there with among the worst regardless of political party. The man is the definition of the word "buffoon". So is Boris Johnson but TBF he's almost a parody of himself.

 

As for the upcoming election, I will be voting Lib Dem for one reason only. To keep the Tories out of my local constituency (Meon Valley) as it is almost certainly a two horse race between the two, with Labour fighting for a distant third with UKIP, Greens etc.

[View From The Top]

Clegg and the Lib/Dems will be found out now there's more interest in them. Dont forget at the last election they covered up their Leaders illness, an illness that made him unfit for office, but Clegg and Cable covered it up for electrol advantage.

 

Honestly, you're deluded.

[Lord Duckhunter]

Honestly, you're deluded.

 

It's a fact.

 

The Lib/Dem establishment knew that Charles Kennedy had a serious illness. An unfortunate illness, but one that affected his judgement and fitness to be PM. They took the political decision that removing him so near to the election would do more damage than keeping him. So they covered it up and went into the election with him in tow. Clegg, Cable and Campbell were all in on this and part of the decision.They were quite prepared for the Country to be led by someone with this serious illness.Personally, I think that making a political calculation in that manner makes them unfit for office, you may disagree, but that hardly makes me "deluded".

[View From The Top]

It's a fact.

 

 

No, it's an opinion. A deluded one born of reading The Daily Mail.

[Lord Duckhunter]

No, it's an opinion. A deluded one born of reading The Daily Mail.

 

Dont read the Mail.

 

I just made it up, Kennedy was sober as a judge and when he wasn't none of the Lib/Dem establishment knew anything about it.

His resignation citing his illness, that he struggled with for years, was a complete surprise to them

 

And I'm the deluded one

[benjii]

What illness? Wasn't he just an alcy?

[Dog]

http://yfrog.com/b8z4pj

[View From The Top]

What illness? Wasn't he just an alcy?

 

And it was just to get some sort of advantage apparently.

 

Them shallow Liberals.

[View From The Top]

I'm the deluded one

 

Yes, I know.

[Lord Duckhunter]

What illness? Wasn't he just an alcy?

 

I was trying to be polite. The Lib/Dem establishment including Clegg and Cable covered it up and let him lead the Party into the last election.A serious flaw in their judgement, as he could have ended up in a coalition govt.