Professor Posted 26 September, 2010 Share Posted 26 September, 2010 Adkins' (and presumably the dressing room) nic for AO-C. Very much worth his place in the side and proving difficult, if not impossible, to rest. Provides the right side attacking threat that is crucial. At just 17 wouldn't expect him to be the finished article and 5 years from now he'll still be a young player on anyone's measure. In time he will be a goal scorer as well as a chance maker. At the moment, its hard to see who could replace him if he was out injured. At 17, his body is still growing and Adkins has said that he recognises a need to protect Alex from playing too much at his age. With the priority for the club being the need to win games, its not surprising that the manager will put out his strongest available 11 every time, if he can, and his concern about over-using 'Chambo' must be a problem for him. Hard to see any solution within the squad as it is at present, but are the club being fair to their brightest prospect since Walcott and Bale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 26 September, 2010 Share Posted 26 September, 2010 I'll be radical and offer an alternative... Puncheon on the right and Lallana on the left. It just might work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick1976.4.38 Posted 26 September, 2010 Share Posted 26 September, 2010 puncheon on the right and holmes on the left when alex doesnt play.he played well yesterday.wifm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 26 September, 2010 Share Posted 26 September, 2010 Mmm, to stretch the debate just a little, I was wondering how NA will play things when Lallana gets back to full fitness (in the meantime it looks like he'll be a super-sub). Holmes looks like he could still be in with a shout if he keeps working hard...Puncheon appears to have a starting place whatever. Chambo has done everything right during this spell of regular starts. Nobody would leave out Lallana when he's 100%. So who gets dropped in the 2 from 4 dilemna? Holmes will not get 1st call although I think he's as good if not better than Puncheon. Chambo needs to be protected, so I can see him dropping to the bench. It will be Puncheon and Lallana again as Benjii above said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 26 September, 2010 Share Posted 26 September, 2010 I'll be radical and offer an alternative... Puncheon on the right and Lallana on the left. It just might work... LOL - bout as radical as it gets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st alex Posted 26 September, 2010 Share Posted 26 September, 2010 I'd quite like to see Pencheon dropped or rested for a while, since (I can only speak for his home form) he's been poor, possibly lallana to play on the right to give Chamberlian a rest and dickson/mills/holmes to play on the left of midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 26 September, 2010 Share Posted 26 September, 2010 Dickson is a better bet at LM than Holmes - don't forget him! We're fortunate in having loads of options. Gives the lie to this strange myth that we desperately need to recruit players. The only area where we might be weak is CM (depending on whether Guly turns out to be any good or not). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 26 September, 2010 Share Posted 26 September, 2010 Not sure but think have heard somewhere that AOC is playing out of position as he was a often CM in youth team playing wide to protect him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shropshire Saint Posted 27 September, 2010 Share Posted 27 September, 2010 I agree with Benji - we now have many options and permutations. Maybe at this stage in his career we need to use Chambo as an impact sub in much the same way as Antonio was last year. My personal feeling is that Lallana's best position is in the hole behind the two strikers - but how do we fit that into our system? Who would be a football manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 27 September, 2010 Share Posted 27 September, 2010 Not sure but think have heard somewhere that AOC is playing out of position as he was a often CM in youth team playing wide to protect him He did play primarily in the centre for the Youth teams but can also play out wide as he has been! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 27 September, 2010 Share Posted 27 September, 2010 It give him a break tomorrow and start with either Dickson or Holmes on the left. Then we've got Lallana and AOC as two fantastic options on the bench. Don't really want to be piling 3 games in a week on him or else he could end up like Bale in '07. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambertsrightleg Posted 27 September, 2010 Share Posted 27 September, 2010 what happened to bale in 07? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 27 September, 2010 Share Posted 27 September, 2010 what happened to bale in 07? Burley played him pretty much none stop and by the last 3rd of the season he looked knackered and his development seemed to be going backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 27 September, 2010 Share Posted 27 September, 2010 Chamberlain has been one of our best players this season, but we do need to use him sparingly, agreed. Not sure he's an impact sub though, he's not got the raw physicality that Antonio did, even if he has got good pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 27 September, 2010 Share Posted 27 September, 2010 (edited) Chamberlain has been one of our best players this season, but we do need to use him sparingly, agreed. Not sure he's an impact sub though, he's not got the raw physicality that Antonio did, even if he has got good pace. Yep, but he'd still terrify a tiring defence with his pace and maybe earn a few free kicks into the bargain. Edited 27 September, 2010 by suewhistle typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 27 September, 2010 Author Share Posted 27 September, 2010 I'll be radical and offer an alternative... Puncheon on the right and Lallana on the left. It just might work... is Puncheon good enough. I'd say he's one of the weak spots that needs improving but OK as a sub. If Chambo is to be used sparingly, isn't there still a need for a first choice at RMF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 27 September, 2010 Share Posted 27 September, 2010 Chamberlain has been one of our best players this season, but we do need to use him sparingly, agreed. Not sure he's an impact sub though, he's not got the raw physicality that Antonio did, even if he has got good pace. Raw physicality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 27 September, 2010 Share Posted 27 September, 2010 Raw physicality? ....strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 27 September, 2010 Share Posted 27 September, 2010 Burley played him pretty much none stop and by the last 3rd of the season he looked knackered and his development seemed to be going backwards. I thought he looked the real deal all the way through 06/07 and almost our most creative player which was pretty amazing for a left back. I hate the cheating c*nt but he knew exactly what he was doing getting his players to hit Jones and Bale like a bus every time they could in that semi-final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 27 September, 2010 Share Posted 27 September, 2010 is Puncheon good enough. I'd say he's one of the weak spots that needs improving but OK as a sub. If Chambo is to be used sparingly, isn't there still a need for a first choice at RMF? Of course he's good enough. He's one of the best wide players in the division. Not sure if you noticed but we were pretty good last season. I despair sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthamSteve Posted 27 September, 2010 Share Posted 27 September, 2010 I think it's 'Chaimbo' myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st alex Posted 27 September, 2010 Share Posted 27 September, 2010 Of course he's good enough. He's one of the best wide players in the division. Not sure if you noticed but we were pretty good last season. I despair sometimes. But he's not been very good this season? And the team being pretty good last season wasn't entirely down to Puncheon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningtonCrescent Posted 28 September, 2010 Share Posted 28 September, 2010 But he's not been very good this season? And the team being pretty good last season wasn't entirely down to Puncheon. He may not have provided as much 'end product' as we'd all like, but the very fact that Punch gets on the ball so much shows something about him - and the team around him. He never hides when his play is deemed 'poor' by the crowd. He gets up and gets involved. He is one of the few in our team who is always looking to tKs on his man and get an advantage. He may make the wrong choice and he may squander possession sometimes, but he gets involved and when his confidence is restored we will reap the rewards for sticking with him. If he already had the consistency we all crave, he wouldn't be playing League 1 football! He is this season's Lallana, who at this stage last year 'wasn't fit to wear the shirt' ****rolly eyed smiley**** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 28 September, 2010 Share Posted 28 September, 2010 (edited) I find it very strange when posters slate Puncheon... He is a very, very good player and would be selected every time by every manager in this league and most in the CCC. The previous coaching staff and the current management team, Adkins and Crosby select him everytime. Proof .. I believe Adkins would play him even if he took another two loans....Puncheon is that good. The reason is that he is a class player and will help the team improve and move up the league. I remember the days when many posters unfairly slated Lallana when he was obviously one of the first on the team sheet.. I believe the continued improvement with Spiderman and Hammond.. working as a unit..Will allow Puncheon and the fit again Lallana to drive this team on.. Lambert and Barney will then also thrive with a rapid increase in our goals for tally.... Let us get behind the team/management. WIFM PS Not forgetting OXC who will become a great player for the mighty Saints... Edited 28 September, 2010 by ottery st mary spellin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 28 September, 2010 Share Posted 28 September, 2010 (To the tune of karma chameleon) Alex Alex Alex, Alex Ox-chamberlain He’s fast as ****, He’s fast as **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 28 September, 2010 Share Posted 28 September, 2010 He may not have provided as much 'end product' as we'd all like, but the very fact that Punch gets on the ball so much shows something about him - and the team around him. He never hides when his play is deemed 'poor' by the crowd. He gets up and gets involved. He is one of the few in our team who is always looking to tKs on his man and get an advantage. He may make the wrong choice and he may squander possession sometimes, but he gets involved and when his confidence is restored we will reap the rewards for sticking with him. Good points, and we've all seen players that hide. I've only seen him live twice this season when I was over at the start of the season but I think part of the reason for the level of frustration with him is that we do expect more. He's trying to do that little bit too much and making the wrong decisions, but he's certainly got something. As a crowd I don't think we'd be too frustrated with Pulis, for example, we'd be taking it out on whoever picked him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 28 September, 2010 Share Posted 28 September, 2010 If Puncheon did everything half a second quicker he'd be our best player by miles. It's his second-guessing himself when he passes that is the frustrating part of his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st alex Posted 28 September, 2010 Share Posted 28 September, 2010 Just for the record I wasn't insinuating that Puncheon wasn't good enough for the team, just that I didn't think he was playing as well as he can at the moment, and that he could also (along with Chambo) benefit with being rested. Even last season I thought Puncheon seemed a little hit and miss and that he didn't have the consistency others have mentioned - for every five or so good games he seemed to have a bit of a shocker. Although he does seem to be one of the few players, along with Lallana who is always looking for the ball and enjoys being in possesion, trouble is half the time he doesn't seem to know what to do with it. I'm still not entirely convinced by him, but hopefully Adkins can get the best out of him. I don't think anyone's slated Puncheon on this thread, which makes a change, but IMO both our options on the right, Chambo and Puncheon could benefit on with a rest, prehaps rotating them could be an option. The squad does seem a little lopsided as options down the left wing far outway the right, with Puncheon, Lallana, Holmes, Mills and Dickson all good enough to start down the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 28 September, 2010 Share Posted 28 September, 2010 I find it very strange when posters slate Puncheon... He is a very, very good player and would be selected every time by every manager in this league and most in the CCC. The previous coaching staff and the current management team, Adkins and Crosby select him everytime. Proof .. I believe Adkins would play him even if he took another two loans....Puncheon is that good. The reason is that he is a class player and will help the team improve and move up the league. I remember the days when many posters unfairly slated Lallana when he was obviously one of the first on the team sheet.. I believe the continued improvement with Spiderman and Hammond.. working as a unit..Will allow Puncheon and the fit again Lallana to drive this team on.. Lambert and Barney will then also thrive with a rapid increase in our goals for tally.... Let us get behind the team/management. WIFM PS Not forgetting OXC who will become a great player for the mighty Saints... No. Just not true. He's great for this league but would struggle innthe Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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