Hammond

[harvey]

Much laughing at Turkish maybe?..........too much defending of the totally crap Hammond

[doddisalegend]

Much laughing at Turkish maybe?..........too much defending of the totally crap Hammond

 

To be fair I thought Hammond had improved in recent weeks (which I put down to the apperance of Chaplow giving him a kick up the arse) but today he was dire, still better than Morgan's abject performance though.

Edited 11 December, 2010 by doddisalegend

[Andy_Porter]

Dont see the point in picking single players out when the team performs so poorly.

[harvey]

Dont see the point in picking single players out when the team performs so poorly.

 

Hammond is consistently **** apart from the odd game....enough to single him out.

[Chez]

poor showing in the first half, but he ran hard in the second half when he reverted to the Chaplow role, although without much success. He does a decent job though his lack of pace will alway be a problem. He has been very good in recent games. Much better than Morgan today so I'm not sure why he is being singled out. For me Butterfield was by far and away the worst player, woeful.

[harvey]

poor showing in the first half, but he ran hard in the second half when he reverted to the Chaplow role, although without much success. He does a decent job though his lack of pace will alway be a problem. He has been very good in recent games. Much better than Morgan today somnot sure why he is being singled out. For me Butterfield was by far and away the worst player, Woeful.

 

Not just on todays showing.....a professional footballer who consistently kicks the ball toward goal as though he is the twin brother of Johnny Wilkinson should not qualify as the captain of league one team with aspirations of promotion.

[st alex]

There were worse performers today, no need to use the same old scapegoat. As Andy said the whole team was below par.

[harvey]

There were worse performers today, no need to use the same old scapegoat. As Andy said the whole team was below par.

 

You're right, they were all ****e.....but Hammond was his usual inneffective ****tiest self.

[Chez]

Not just on todays showing.....a professional footballer who consistently kicks the ball toward goal as though he is the twin brother of Johnny Wilkinson should not qualify as the captain of league one team with aspirations of promotion.

 

he gives everything. For me he is technically sound. All he lacks is pace.

[harvey]

he gives everything. For me he is technically sound. All he lacks is pace.

 

If he were a professional rugby player it's possible that we may find some common ground........alas I don't think that will ever be the case.

[Chez]

If he were a professional rugby player it's possible that we may find some common ground........alas I don't think that will ever be the case.

 

the game is about opinions, I don't agree with yours. Such is life.

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

It's no coincidence that Hammond's upturn in form came when he was partnering Chaplow in midfield. Chaplow has reasonable pace which means Deano isn't required to be so mobile and allows him to play in the holding role to try to direct the play a little. With Morgan & Hammond, we have two players who want to do the same thing and it doesn't work as well. Sometimes players just function better alongside certain players - Beattie and Ormerod were a prime example.

[harvey]

the game is about opinions, I don't agree with yours. Such is life.

 

Fair enough......you can't help it if you're wrong.

[jam]

I don't like Hammond but since Adkins has been here this is the first tie that I've seen him have a poor game. Seems strange to single him out today.

[Chez]

I don't like Hammond but since Adkins has been here this is the first tie that I've seen him have a poor game. Seems strange to single him out today.

 

very strange. The first 50 minutes of his display must have appeared been especially bad to some.

Edited 12 December, 2010 by Chez

[Turkish]

Much laughing at Turkish maybe?..........too much defending of the totally crap Hammond

 

Yep, usual scape goat. Well done you you f***ing clown. I take you missed Morgan "i'd be better in the permier league" Schniderlins consistant faliure to find his own team with 10 yard passes. Or Alex "i'm better than Walcott at the same age" Chamberlains ability to do absolutely nothing, or the other 8 players other than Hammond who turned in probably our worst performance at home since relegation form the Championship. It wasn't hammond who couldn't hit the target from 12 yards out with no one around him. It wasn't Hammond who was one of three Saints defenders who let a s*** no mark striker get in between them and tuck in the second goal, and it wasn't Hammond who let in a howler for their first goal. But lets pick on Hammond anyway. As usual you clowns on here pick on the usual scape goats and take delight in trying to prove other posters wrong. Idiot.

[Turkish]

You're right, they were all ****e.....but Hammond was his usual inneffective ****tiest self.

 

Why are you singling him out?

[Junior Mullet]

Break the bank and sign Danns in Jan please

[harvey]

Yep, usual scape goat. Well done you you f***ing clown. I take you missed Morgan "i'd be better in the permier league" Schniderlins consistant faliure to find his own team with 10 yard passes. Or Alex "i'm better than Walcott at the same age" Chamberlains ability to do absolutely nothing, or the other 8 players other than Hammond who turned in probably our worst performance at home since relegation form the Championship. It wasn't hammond who couldn't hit the target from 12 yards out with no one around him. It wasn't Hammond who was one of three Saints defenders who let a s*** no mark striker get in between them and tuck in the second goal, and it wasn't Hammond who let in a howler for their first goal. But lets pick on Hammond anyway. As usual you clowns on here pick on the usual scape goats and take delight in trying to prove other posters wrong. Idiot.

 

Lol!!!!! anger issues?.......I'm sure there's a helpline out there for you

[Turkish]

Lol!!!!! anger issues?.......I'm sure there's a helpline out there for you

 

No anger issues, read my post again. Why are you singling Hammond out when there were players worse than him? Also the opening line of your post was having a pop at me so what do you expect. Just a typical post from someone that jumps on the bandwagon and knows nothing about football, lets give Hammond a bit of grief because it seems like everyone else does etc.

[Lallana's Left Peg]

Hammond isn't the reason we lose games, and he isn't the reason we win games. He's a hard working player and team captain for that reason.

[ottery st mary]

Spiderman is not up to it (craaap.. I should not say craaaap..very unfair of me )...We are far better off with Hammond and Chaplow...Hopefully Chappers will be back next game.

 

Get rid of Spiderman...definitely not up to even League 1.

Edited 12 December, 2010 by ottery st mary
taking the craaap out of my statement.

[Turkish]

Hammond isn't the reason we lose games' date=' and he isn't the reason we win games. He's a hard working player and team captain for that reason.[/quote']

 

Spot on. But some dont seem to realise this. The clueless majority who also got on Telfers back are probably the same ones that dont rate Hammond. Lawries said in a team you need violinsts and road sweepers, a lot on here seem to think the only good players are ones that beat 5 players on mazey runs, score screamers from 30 yards and run around at 100 mph throwning themselves into tackles and kissing the badge. 11 of those and they'd be happy, unfortunately 11 of those wins you FA.

Edited 12 December, 2010 by Turkish

[Thedelldays]

Jaidi

Ffs, kelvin

Morgan

 

All far far worse than Hammond today

[Turkish]

Jaidi

Ffs, kelvin

Morgan

 

All far far worse than Hammond today

 

As were Seabourne, Butterfield, Lambert and Gully. Schniderlin was woeful, but lets pick on Hammond anyway. FFS.

[harvey]

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No anger issues, read my post again. Why are you singling Hammond out when there were players worse than him? Also the opening line of your post was having a pop at me so what do you expect. Just a typical post from someone that jumps on the bandwagon and knows nothing about football, lets give Hammond a bit of grief because it seems like everyone else does etc.

 

Why am I singling Hammond out?....let me think ....maybe because he's crap and because you had the nerve to come on here the other week and start a thread about people who slagged H off, just because he had 1 ok game.

[Turkish]

?

 

Why am I singling Hammond out?....let me think ....maybe because he's crap and because you had the nerve to come on here the other week and start a thread about people who slgged H off, just because he had 1 ok game.

 

Spoken like someone who knows exactly what they are talking about. "Because he is crap," thats a good justification. LOL at your comment that i had "the nerve" to start a thread about people slagging him off. How dare i defend one of our players. FFS. you are an idiot. But i am guessing from your posts you are about 18, so that is some justification for your stupidity.

Edited 12 December, 2010 by Turkish

[harvey]

Spoken like someone who knows exactly what they are talking about. Because he is crap, thats a good justification. LOL at your comment that i had "the nerve" to start a thread about people slagging him off. How dare i defend one of our players. FFS. you are an idiot. But i am guessing from your posts you are about 18, so that is some justification for your stupidity.

 

So you so gallantly defend one of our players even though he's ****......I applaud you.

[NN2 Saint]

Yep, usual scape goat. Well done you you f***ing clown. I take you missed Morgan "i'd be better in the permier league" Schniderlins consistant faliure to find his own team with 10 yard passes. Or Alex "i'm better than Walcott at the same age" Chamberlains ability to do absolutely nothing, or the other 8 players other than Hammond who turned in probably our worst performance at home since relegation form the Championship. It wasn't hammond who couldn't hit the target from 12 yards out with no one around him. It wasn't Hammond who was one of three Saints defenders who let a s*** no mark striker get in between them and tuck in the second goal, and it wasn't Hammond who let in a howler for their first goal. But lets pick on Hammond anyway. As usual you clowns on here pick on the usual scape goats and take delight in trying to prove other posters wrong. Idiot.

 

Completely right I believe he has played very well since Chaplows been in the side but there were far worse than Dean out there today. I just get used to the side losing now after 20 years of sitting through still am looking forward to the day in May which we scrape through and pick up 2nd place as I still feel we will

[Turkish]

So you so gallantly defend one of our players even though he's ****......I applaud you.

 

I'll defend anyone against an imbicile like you who just repeats "because they are sh**" "because they are crap" But i get the feeling that there is no arguing with that sort of logic. Anyway, shouldn't you be in bed? Dont you have a paper round to do tomorrow?

[harvey]

I'll defend anyone against an imbicile like you who just repeats "because they are sh**" "because they are crap" But i get the feeling that there is no arguing with that sort of logic. Anyway, shouldn't you be in bed? Dont you have a paper round to do tomorrow?

 

I'm sorry i don't agree with your 'one man love in' with Hammond Turkish......maybe you better hurry along to the Blue Oyster club now eh!

[BadgerBadger]

Central midfield were marginally more sh1t than the rest of the team

[Turkish]

I'm sorry i don't agree with your 'one man love in' with Hammond Turkish......maybe you better hurry along to the Blue Oyster club now eh!

 

well reading this thread it would seem that that is not the case now wouldn't it sweetheart. Still dont worry, if you say "because he's crap" enough times one or two others in the clueless majority that also know FA about football might jump on your bandwagon, bless yah.

[harvey]

well reading this thread it would seem that that is not the case now wouldn't it sweetheart. Still dont worry, if you say "because he's crap" enough times one or two others in the clueless majority that also know FA about football might jump on your bandwagon, bless yah.

 

 

I take that to be a goodnight then?........love you too ;-) xxx

[harvey]

And Hammond is still crap imo btw

[Smirking_Saint]

I make no bones about the fact that i don't rate Hammond, i don't think he is our worst player, but certainly don't think he is our best. Technically he is not great and he doesn't hold any pace, he does however give his all. But all in all he is an average league 1 player, no more no less.

 

Today he was no worse then 10 other players, we just looked as though christmas is coming so whats the point, utterly innefective. Lambert (southampton darling) continues to be untouched even though he doesn't even jump for headers anymore or get into any goalscoring positions.

 

Schneiderlin who i admit i have championed as of late looks as though he has completely lost interest.

 

Unless we get a sense of urgency or spend a bucket load in January i think we are looking at another season in lower league pathetic b*llocks.

[JonnyLove]

Hammond was the worst player on the pitch today. He just went missing. Our central midfield well there just was none. So sorry Hammond but we need to replace you ASAP. (actually we need 2 new CM's to replace what we have.) Still onwards and upwards.

[whelk]

Hammond is a poor captain I think. Doesn't seem to give Alex and others any encouragement. Although why is the whole team so quiet. I sit close enough and here so little. Kelvin as previous caption was worst still. I know captaincy isn't all about just shouting your mouth off but doesn't strike me there are too many run through a wall lead by example types at teh club. Aaron Martin looks promising though.

[jimmysaint7]

Hammond plays better with chaplow for the simple reason Morgan is crap.he offers us absolutely nothing and I honestly think he will amount to nothing.I also think Hammond was one of our better players yesterday, he got forward a fair bit but it went unnoticed as we were terrible up top

[Thedelldays]

Hammond is a poor captain I think. Doesn't seem to give Alex and others any encouragement. Although why is the whole team so quiet. I sit close enough and here so little. Kelvin as previous caption was worst still. I know captaincy isn't all about just shouting your mouth off but doesn't strike me there are too many run through a wall lead by example types at teh club. Aaron Martin looks promising though.

 

Doesn't give encouragement?

 

Of course he does.. When we conceded yesterday and the players heads dropped.. He was trying to rally round and give them a lift

 

Please don't make stuff up

[Thedelldays]

Hammond was the worst player on the pitch today. He just went missing. Our central midfield well there just was none. So sorry Hammond but we need to replace you ASAP. (actually we need 2 new CM's to replace what we have.) Still onwards and upwards.

 

He was worse than kelvin and jaidi was he?

 

Christ

[doddisalegend]

Spot on. But some dont seem to realise this. The clueless majority who also got on Telfers back are probably the same ones that dont rate Hammond. Lawries said in a team you need violinsts and road sweepers, a lot on here seem to think the only good players are ones that beat 5 players on mazey runs, score screamers from 30 yards and run around at 100 mph throwning themselves into tackles and kissing the badge. 11 of those and they'd be happy, unfortunately 11 of those wins you FA.

 

I'd settle for one player in the team that could do all that HTBH

[whelk]

Doesn't give encouragement?

 

Of course he does.. When we conceded yesterday and the players heads dropped.. He was trying to rally round and give them a lift

 

Please don't make stuff up

 

Ok i change my mind - he was brilliant and he rallied the troops admirably after we conceded and everyone looked so up for it and we were so unlucky not to win. we're lucky to have such a captain.

[Thedelldays]

Ok i change my mind - he was brilliant and he rallied the troops admirably after we conceded and everyone looked so up for it and we were so unlucky not to win. we're lucky to have such a captain.

 

He was not brilliant but don't make stuff up

[Saint Fan CaM]

The team was very poor yesterday. Should that be levelled at one man? No. But Hammond is the Captain and should perhaps shoulder a little more of the blame for not getting his troops sorted.

 

Having said that, he could not affect the rubbish defending and goalkeeping that cost us two goals. He could not affect the 3-4 world class saves their goalkeeper pulled off (not to mention the manner in which he commanded his box). I suspect he hasn't got the balls to rip into Lambert for being a lardy-arsed load of rubbish with no apparent team ethic whatsoever. We need a new striker urgently in January as from what I've heard Barnard will not be around for a while.

 

I've said it before, Schniederlin and Hammond do not work well together and Chaplow is a better partner in CM who makes either of the other two look better. If I were to select one of them to keep it would be Hammond because I don't feel Schneiderlin is the type of player to get us out of L1. Whether he's good enough to make a better stab at it in a higher league is debatable - personally I think he would do better in a French team where he has more time on the ball - but he's not the player we need now. We need Chaplow fit and we need a good backup option too.

[ulstersaint]

I can't think of a game when Hammond has dominated midfield or really made a difference to a match outcome. He is definitely a trier but lacks a good forward pass (most of his are sideways or backwards and he usually plays the ball the way he happens to be facing) and he lacks pace. With Hammond and Spider we have two midfielders who are slow and don't break forward to support the attack. That's why Chaplow has made such a difference and in my view H & S are not the right midfield combination and I would be happy to see both go and someone brought in to play MF with Chaplow.

[Ashley Grute]

Turkish -you are so right- we have a number of fans who just look to blame one player for our poor team performances. Hammond is unfairly singled out. He has played really well for the last 8 games and as soon as we lose, some fools blame it on him. He is one of those players who you don't realise how important he is to the team until he isn't playing. I for one like him and although he isn't our most talented player, he gives his all for the team.

[NickG]

Thought Hammond was appalling yesterday.

[aintforever]

It's no coincidence that Hammond's upturn in form came when he was partnering Chaplow in midfield. Chaplow has reasonable pace which means Deano isn't required to be so mobile and allows him to play in the holding role to try to direct the play a little. With Morgan & Hammond' date=' we have two players who want to do the same thing and it doesn't work as well. Sometimes players just function better alongside certain players - Beattie and Ormerod were a prime example.[/quote']

 

Exactly, having Scheiderlin poncing about in front of the back four doesn't suit Hammonds game. We look a million miles better with Hammond and Chaplow in the middle. I would offload Scheiderlin in January and get another proper midfielder.

[Turkish]

Exactly, having Scheiderlin poncing about in front of the back four doesn't suit Hammonds game. We look a million miles better with Hammond and Chaplow in the middle. I would offload Scheiderlin in January and get another proper midfielder.

 

and how many times did Schneiderlin give the ball away yesterday? His passing was awful, often failing to even complete a 10 yard sideways pass and this is supposed to be his strenghth! I dont think Hammond is our best player, of course he isn't, but everytime we lose or play badly he is singled out and made the whipping boy, which is wrong. All 11 players were dog sh*t yesterday but Hammond was far from the worst.