Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 Did they? They believe they did. Ignoring the fact that Manchester United had as many guys in the England squad that year as they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 27 July, 2012 Author Share Posted 27 July, 2012 It's not been. Modern citizens retelling the genesis of this nation is not distorting it, regardless of whether their relatives may have been here at the time, its the nation they now call home and they are celebrating it. It's PC b/llocks that is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeShmoe Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 Danny Boyle is a ****in genius, I'm proud to be British Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 It's PC b/llocks that is what it is. So, to clarify. Are you saying that Black britains cannot publicly celebrate their nationality and the history involved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 No, the history still exists, it just hasn't been used to cause offence. Trivialising oppresion is a far bigger sin then discretion. No, it's been distorted so it's not technicaly 'true'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 (edited) No, it's been distorted so it's not technicaly 'true'. No it hasn't. Please, again, for the sake of clarity, explain why people of different ethnicity to the indigenous populace who have become naturalised residents and part of our society celebrating the nation's history has distorted it.... I wasn't aware that someone of Caribbean/African extraction from a (possibly...) third generation Afro-British family doing a dance interpretation of the Industrial revolution, a key event in his nation's history, has distorted it... Edited 27 July, 2012 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 It has been absolutely fantastic. Brilliant. Better than the Beijing ceremony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 Danny Boyle is a ****in genius, I'm proud to be British Your idea of genius is far removed from mine.....each to their own though eh!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 Finally, we've got to the 'Bs'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 (edited) Ive want a Belarussian suit like that Edited 27 July, 2012 by buctootim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 27 July, 2012 Author Share Posted 27 July, 2012 It has been absolutely fantastic. Brilliant. Better than the Beijing ceremony. Did you enjoy the ceebeebies olympic challenge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 27 July, 2012 Author Share Posted 27 July, 2012 So, to clarify. Are you saying that Black britains cannot publicly celebrate their nationality and the history involved? Of course they can, but what i'm saying is that the representation of 19th century Britain was farcical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 Of course they can, but what i'm saying is that the representation of 19th century Britain was farcical. Only if you let it bother you. It's hardly a farce that modern british performers, regardless of ethnicity, celebrate part of their nation's history. Should all the Greeks in 2004 have gone home because their bloodlines had been contaminated by the Turkish Ottoman invaders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 Crap singing of abide with me. I wonder what Dune has offered ever to society? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 So, to clarify. Are you saying that Black britains cannot publicly celebrate their nationality and the history involved? But they’re not "celebrating" it. They're actors/performers, paid to take part in a show, which is supposedly an historical representation of a particular period of British history, but is instead distorted to fit in with ridiculous PC pressure. It's not like the "multi-cultural" make-up of this country hasn't been well represented throughout the rest of the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 But they’re not "celebrating" it. They're actors/performers, paid to take part in a show, which is supposedly an historical representation of a particular period of British history, but is instead distorted to fit in with ridiculous PC pressure. It's not like the "multi-cultural" make-up of this country hasn't been well represented throughout the rest of the show. Yes, it's just like reading a history book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 No it hasn't. Please, again, for the sake of clarity, explain why people of different ethnicity to the indigenous populace who have become naturalised residents and part of our society celebrating the nation's history has distorted it.... I wasn't aware that someone of Caribbean/African extraction from a (possibly...) third generation Afro-British family doing a dance interpretation of the Industrial revolution, a key event in his nation's history, has distorted it... Ooooo you snuck that one in quick ........did you realize that i was looking back at your posts to see where I was trying to pick you up on? It doesn't really matter because we're probaby miles apart on our personal view points....i do respect yours though Colinjb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty's Caddy Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 Well I enjoyed it, this bits gonna be boring though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 But they’re not "celebrating" it. They're actors/performers, paid to take part in a show, which is supposedly an historical representation of a particular period of British history, but is instead distorted to fit in with ridiculous PC pressure. It's not like the "multi-cultural" make-up of this country hasn't been well represented throughout the rest of the show. So again, should we have bared performers a chance to be employed based on race? It's not PC ****** if the performing companies have a diverse membership. And we have no method to prove otherwise, especially considering that locals will more then likely have been employed for this purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 27 July, 2012 Author Share Posted 27 July, 2012 I wonder what Dune has offered ever to society? zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 FanF***ingTastic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 27 July, 2012 Author Share Posted 27 July, 2012 Well I enjoyed it' date=' this bits gonna be boring though[/quote'] And the cauldron lighting isn't for another 1hr 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 Utterly utterly toe curlingly cringeworthy. Like your opnions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 27 July, 2012 Author Share Posted 27 July, 2012 Correct. That was quite good for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 is instead distorted to fit in with ridiculous PC pressure. It's not like the "multi-cultural" make-up of this country hasn't been well represented throughout the rest of the show. The perfomers are probably a representative ethnic makeup of young Londoners. If the games ever get held in the Scilly Isles no doubt the show will look different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 So again, should we have bared performers a chance to be employed based on race? It's not PC ****** if the performing companies have a diverse membership. And we have no method to prove otherwise, especially considering that locals will more then likely have been employed for this purpose. Because they look nothing like the people from the period of time they're supposedly re-creating. I believe it is the reason that acting is one of the few industries you can legally 'discriminate' on the basis of race for that very obvious, practical reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 27 July, 2012 Author Share Posted 27 July, 2012 So let's have a show of hands of those who are loving it. So far we've got BTF, SaintAndy666, Colinjb and thedelldays. Anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 Bloody hell, look at the size of the Cuban flag bearer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillyanne Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 FanF***ingTastic! Totally agree R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 Because they look nothing like the people from the period of time they're supposedly re-creating. I believe it is the reason that acting is one of the few industries you can legally 'discriminate' on the basis of race for that very obvious, practical reason. It would be seriously bloody pettit though. Where is the practical benefit in descriminating at an Olympic Opening ceremony? An event which will be abstract and celebratory of the nation as a whole rather then aiming for painstaking historic accuracy. Not to mention the whole ethos/spirit of the games in the first place..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 So let's have a show of hands of those who are loving it. So far we've got BTF, SaintAndy666, Colinjb and thedelldays. Anyone else? It has been great overall. Some awful early moments but I got into it. It was a lot fresher and original and much less hackneyed retro than I feared Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 Amazing how a global celebration of all humans around the world has got the racists riled up on this forum. As well as the sexists, homophobes and other types of bigot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 The crowd, have they been briefed to ge certain colours at a specific time? Or are they wearing something reflective? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 I am luvving it too..... British is best..... It is soooooo luvverly.....I have tears in my eye:blush: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 27 July, 2012 Author Share Posted 27 July, 2012 Bloody hell, look at the size of the Cuban flag bearer Nobody is watching it now. It needs wogan doing the commentary to liven it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 Nobody is watching it now. It needs wogan doing the commentary to liven it up. He's retired. They've got Graham Norton on now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 The crowd, have they been briefed to ge certain colours at a specific time? Or are they wearing something reflective? Apparently they've all got handsets that are computer generated (so the commentators said). Something like 40 days to wire up the stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 The crowd, have they been briefed to ge certain colours at a specific time? Or are they wearing something reflective? They got some sort of screen they're holding which are all atched to a central control system. Very clever and innovative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillyanne Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 So let's have a show of hands of those who are loving it. So far we've got BTF, SaintAndy666, Colinjb and thedelldays. Anyone else? Me and the hubby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 I am looking forward to Lady Ga Ga lighting the Olympic flame:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 Your idea of genius is far removed from mine.....each to their own though eh!. Won many oscars have you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 I am looking forward to Lady Ga Ga lighting the Olympic flame:p No John Terry. He likes turning up for these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 The crowd, have they been briefed to ge certain colours at a specific time? Or are they wearing something reflective? The have this led gizmo which can be controlled wirelessly to change the colour. Actually very cool IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 27 July, 2012 Author Share Posted 27 July, 2012 Me and the hubby Are you sure you haven't just told him he's enjoying it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 Are you sure you haven't just told him he's enjoying it? Surely in a marriage that's the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 27 July, 2012 Author Share Posted 27 July, 2012 Apparently they've all got handsets that are computer generated (so the commentators said). Something like 40 days to wire up the stadium. A mass electrocution is on the cards then. I might just watch some more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 So... Which country has the hottest athletes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 It would be seriously bloody pettit though. Where is the practical benefit in descriminating at an Olympic Opening ceremony? An event which will be abstract and celebratory of the nation as a whole rather then aiming for painstaking historic accuracy. Not to mention the whole ethos/spirit of the games in the first place..... Becuase it isn't discrimination. You wouldn't expect a white person to play Nelson Mandela in a story of his life would you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 27 July, 2012 Share Posted 27 July, 2012 But they’re not "celebrating" it. They're actors/performers, paid to take part in a show, which is supposedly an historical representation of a particular period of British history, but is instead distorted to fit in with ridiculous PC pressure. It's not like the "multi-cultural" make-up of this country hasn't been well represented throughout the rest of the show. They'll be letting blacks compete in the games next! Tut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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