The9 Posted 28 March, 2013 Share Posted 28 March, 2013 Interesting article about Mayuka's time at Saints from a Southern African perspective, loads of detailed appearance info in there, and an excellent reference to him maybe NOT being the new Godfrey “Ucar” Chitalu after all... http://www.southerntimesafrica.com/news_article.php?id=8153&title=What%20has%20happened%20to%20Emmanuel%20Mayuka?&type=68 We've only won one of the 7 matches he's appeared in, the demolition of Villa, not that he had much impact on the scoreline when he came on. He's got a 5 year contract but he's only 22 - do people think we'll be shipping him out or trying to slot him in ? Adkins' signing, but then most of the starting team are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 28 March, 2013 Share Posted 28 March, 2013 I always had the view that he was a bit of a panic signing after our pursuit of several wingers came to nothing during the summer. Not to say he is a winger by trade, but it was clear we were after a forward with pace who could also play on the wing. It is very confusing not to see him more involved - I appreciate he may be one for the future but he doesn't play for the u21's, he isn't going on loan, and he doesn't log minutes for the first team. So what is the point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 28 March, 2013 Share Posted 28 March, 2013 (edited) one of the greatest nights in the English club’s 128-year-old history i had to read that several times before realising they was referring to beating liverpool at home ffs Edited 28 March, 2013 by Bearsy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 28 March, 2013 Share Posted 28 March, 2013 As I have said before, he may have potential, but I am not sure I have seen much more than pace at the moment. Reminds me of Nicky Banger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 28 March, 2013 Share Posted 28 March, 2013 As I have said before, he may have potential, but I am not sure I have seen much more than pace at the moment. Reminds me of Nicky Banger I think the problem is, none of us have seen anything at all from him really. Mostly, due to a lack of playing time. Does seem an odd one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 28 March, 2013 Share Posted 28 March, 2013 Interesting article about Mayuka's time at Saints from a Southern African perspective, loads of detailed appearance info in there, and an excellent reference to him maybe NOT being the new Godfrey “Ucar” Chitalu after all... http://www.southerntimesafrica.com/news_article.php?id=8153&title=What%20has%20happened%20to%20Emmanuel%20Mayuka?&type=68 We've only won one of the 7 matches he's appeared in, the demolition of Villa, not that he had much impact on the scoreline when he came on. He's got a 5 year contract but he's only 22 - do people think we'll be shipping him out or trying to slot him in ? Adkins' signing, but then most of the starting team are. Loads of details but still they missed to mention that he won a penalty for us against Villa.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 28 March, 2013 Share Posted 28 March, 2013 One of his problems has been the unexpected great form shown by Puncheon this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 28 March, 2013 Author Share Posted 28 March, 2013 One of his problems has been the unexpected great form shown by Puncheon this year! In the sense that he was only going to get in the team playing out of position in the first place, you mean ? Replace "Puncheon" with "Lambert" and I think that's nearer the truth - but you're right that the one time Mayuka did impress he was quickly forgotten about due to Puncheon's form at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 28 March, 2013 Share Posted 28 March, 2013 It's not like when he has played he has looked awful, and NA said before he played him vs Sunderland that he had been on fire in training so clearly has potential. As with Ramirez to an extend it will be good to see him after a whole pre season and see if he can have an impact next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 28 March, 2013 Share Posted 28 March, 2013 Its a shame he has not featured more because potentially he would be a great outlet for likes of ramirez and lallana whereby they can play balls in behind the defence and exploit his pace. We only have Jrod who can offer this albeit he has good pace not lightening pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted 28 March, 2013 Share Posted 28 March, 2013 (edited) Nat Clyne said on twitter that him, Shaw and Jrod are the quickest players at the club. All teams need speed of thought in their players, some players combine that with above average running/sprinting speed. If they have got both then they can look "quick". Bale is fast but his speed of thinking is even faster hence he looks amazingly quick, ditto Ronaldo. Mayuka's pace is not in debate, his speed of thinking-and that's intimately related to his team + tactical awareness, his integration and acceptance in the squad and their playing to your strengths, is not on that level. If your game is largely based on pace then asking a team like Southampton to bring him on then suddenly start lumping balls behind the full backs for him to run onto seems a refutation of everything the team is trying to do in the rest of the game. None of the rest of the team are really prepared for that run, or for the hoof, and that means the chances of failure in that tactic is high. IF on the other hand, Mayuka is trained in "The Southampton Way tm" and can then bring his pace as an added value element to that - well i can see him doing well. The other way around- it won't happen. So, its up to Mayuka to sort himself out and learn "The Southampton Way tm" if he wants to play, not watch. The fact he's not playing show's he has not learned enough to be better than whoever starts ahead of him yet. Edited 28 March, 2013 by Giordano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted 28 March, 2013 Share Posted 28 March, 2013 The biggest take-home from that article, for me, is that most people's opinions have been formed on Mayuka based on just 166 minutes of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 28 March, 2013 Share Posted 28 March, 2013 JRod is fast, you can see that and now that he's got the hang of this 'ere premier league he's looking more and more dangerous every game. Can't see Mayuka getting a look in really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 28 March, 2013 Share Posted 28 March, 2013 Obviously it's down to the manager (in this case ) ex-manager to select his side and he will play his favourites and obviously Puncheon got in ahead of Mayuka and held his place. Talk about headless chickens though....did people really expect him to come in from day 1 ....and then play out his 5 year contract with 250 games under his belt? .....surely not ? Who knows what the situation maybe... if we have a few injuries, the odd-suspension and someone is left out because of "poor form ", then suddenly those same people will be moaning because we don't have anyone suitable on the bench. I read an article today saying that Chelsea were on track to play 60+ games before the season is out..whilst we will have played just ....40. We need to have some suitable back-up should be be involved in more matches next season ...and have the (above) to consider. I'm sure Mayuka will have his turn ....but later probably rather than sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumstead_Saint Posted 28 March, 2013 Share Posted 28 March, 2013 Well either NA and MP are idiots............ or Mayuko is not good enough to play for the first team. Take your pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 Obviously it's down to the manager (in this case ) ex-manager to select his side and he will play his favourites and obviously Puncheon got in ahead of Mayuka and held his place. Talk about headless chickens though....did people really expect him to come in from day 1 ....and then play out his 5 year contract with 250 games under his belt? .....surely not ? Who knows what the situation maybe... if we have a few injuries, the odd-suspension and someone is left out because of "poor form ", then suddenly those same people will be moaning because we don't have anyone suitable on the bench. I read an article today saying that Chelsea were on track to play 60+ games before the season is out..whilst we will have played just ....40. We need to have some suitable back-up should be be involved in more matches next season ...and have the (above) to consider. I'm sure Mayuka will have his turn ....but later probably rather than sooner. Sorry but total clap trap....... He's not even playing for the junior teams this is the POINT!!!! He's not playing at all. So you have completely lost the question........ IF he is a long term option any not play him in the reserve/junior teams ???? Hell loop this is the question ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 Sorry but total clap trap....... He's not even playing for the junior teams this is the POINT!!!! He's not playing at all. So you have completely lost the question........ IF he is a long term option any not play him in the reserve/junior teams ???? Hell loop this is the question ????? I didn't suggest that he should be in the first team ...and true neither NA (although 5 times as sub.) nor MP has chosen him to start. That is not to saythat... .in the remaining 4½ years of his contract, he might not become a regular at some stage......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 The biggest take-home from that article, for me, is that most people's opinions have been formed on Mayuka based on just 166 minutes of football. Just 166 minutes of football sort of tells it own story dont you think, how many minutes did Ali Dia get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambol2K9 Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 The new Forte? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restark19 Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 The new Forte? Manu Quick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 Not in the squad for tonight's u21 game. Didn't make last first team squad either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 Players in the 21-man matchday squad will never play a game night before matchday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 Who said they did? He didn't make the last matchday squad for the first team. We can only assume he is in this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 Noone? Just sitting here stating some FACTS for people that might misinterpret what other people are saying.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 Like that FACT that I mentioned that e didn't make the last first team squad and isn't in the u21s tonight, you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 29 March, 2013 Author Share Posted 29 March, 2013 I thought the situation was that he wasn't in either of the last U21 or senior squads ? Why would we assume that if he isn't in one he'll be in the other this time ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 30 March, 2013 Share Posted 30 March, 2013 Not in the squad again today. Something must be seriously amiss here. Can't even get into the u21s. Clearly no misenterpretation of what people are saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 30 March, 2013 Share Posted 30 March, 2013 I think the fact is he is gash and has failed to make an impression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 5 April, 2013 Share Posted 5 April, 2013 Seems as though he is being a bit lazy then... http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/10337193.Mayuka_has_to_work_harder_says_Saints_boss/?ref=twt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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