whelk Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 "@LeeHughesDFC: @fizzer18. Toughest player you have faced this season?" Ramirez Southampton https://twitter.com/fizzer18/status/317519335704911872 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 No no, money wasted, get rid asap. What does Neville know he's only one of the most experienced players in the PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 No no, money wasted, get rid asap. What does Neville know he's only one of the most experienced players in the PL. And a complete and total n o b b e r don't forget that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToreSF Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 Neville was **** in that match. Gaston played well in the first half, but ran out of steam in the second. Early substitute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 Gaston makes runs and little passes that don't always get recognised by some fans, however his finishing and final ball has been poor for someone we spent 12 mill on to ensure we get the decent final balls and score a few goals, however i have noticed he likes to play balls thats strikers run on to and thats why we don't see enough of it as Lambo not that type of player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 And a complete and total n o b b e r don't forget that Why is he? Gary was a bit of a ****, never really minded Phil, other than that tackle against Romania. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 Gaston makes runs and little passes that don't always get recognised by some fans, however his finishing and final ball has been poor for someone we spent 12 mill on to ensure we get the decent final balls and score a few goals, however i have noticed he likes to play balls thats strikers run on to and thats why we don't see enough of it as Lambo not that type of player. Finishing poor? Some of his finishing has been world class. The thing which sticks out for me is he gives possession away cheaply but that is more likely going to happen to a player who is there to make things happen. Also some of his dead ball delivery is woeful. I like him though, good player and considerably more talented than anyone else we have IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 Finishing poor? Some of his finishing has been world class. The thing which sticks out for me is he gives possession away cheaply but that is more likely going to happen to a player who is there to make things happen. Also some of his dead ball delivery is woeful. I like him though, good player and considerably more talented than anyone else we have IMO. He's scored 4 goals. Which of those were world class finishing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 QPR at home for starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 QPR at home for starters. Good work. What's for the main course? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 We get it you don't rate him. I do. We're not going to agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 We get it you don't rate him. I do. We're not going to agree. It's got nothing to do with whether I rate him or not. I thought it was a fairly simple question; you said some of his finishing has been world class. I just wondered which of his finishes you put in that category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 We get it you don't rate him. I do. We're not going to agree. 4 goals = £3Million a pop, Cortese done a number on Serie A.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 It's got nothing to do with whether I rate him or not. I thought it was a fairly simple question; you said some of his finishing has been world class. I just wondered which of his finishes you put in that category. He wants to put them in the World class category, he really wants to, but alas reality and delusion always get found out, I always believed in Father Christmas and until I was 29 I deluded myself that car horn on Christmas eve was that special sound for me................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 It´s not always the goals that catches the eye. The nutmeg and shot against Fulham away was the type of brilliance our club has lacked since MLT days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 Thought his Arsenal goal was a very good finish. The other 2 were 'tap ins' but still have to be in the right place and put it in. He's class. Just give him time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 He wants to put them in the World class category, he really wants to, but alas reality and delusion always get found out, I always believed in Father Christmas and until I was 29 I deluded myself that car horn on Christmas eve was that special sound for me................. You're 29?! Christ I thought you were about 14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 thought his arsenal goal was a very good finish. The other 2 were 'tap ins' but still have to be in the right place and put it in. He's class. Just give him time. qpr? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 4 goals = £3Million a pop, Cortese done a number on Serie A.................. So every goal from now on is for free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 It´s not always the goals that catches the eye. The nutmeg and shot against Fulham away was the type of brilliance our club has lacked since MLT days. If that's your benchmark then even MLT was surpassed in those stakes in his day (although he contributed a goal of much humour on the same day). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 You're 29?! Christ I thought you were about 14. I thought you were about 50 until recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 qpr? Already mentioned. World class finish that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 It´s not always the goals that catches the eye. The nutmeg and shot against Fulham away was the type of brilliance our club has lacked since MLT days. In fact it's not even the goals, just the shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 If that's your benchmark then even MLT was surpassed in those stakes in his day (although he contributed a goal of much humour on the same day). So you are saying that Pahars was aslo rubbish then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 So you are saying that Pahars was aslo rubbish then? I think you missed the point by quite some distance there :lol: And I don't believe that Gaston is rubbish. Why do various people on here feel they need to make things up and attribute a false opinion to others to try to make a point? Its really bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 I guess my post was removed for trolling/offensive reasons. It'll be interesting to see if any of MLG's trolling posts get removed in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 I'm 38, but have the body of an 18 year old, 6ft 13st of love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No 2 to Maybush Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 Christ on a bike! The usual trolls hijack YET ANOTHER thread! When are the moderators gonna do something about the spammers on this board?? Is there any wonder no-one posts on this forum anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 Christ on a bike! The usual trolls hijack YET ANOTHER thread! When are the moderators gonna do something about the spammers on this board?? Is there any wonder no-one posts on this forum anymore? Whatever the mongboard I always love a post like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 What does a professional footballer with near on 20 years experience and over 50 international caps know about anything? The Saintsweb boys decided he is rubbish, and not up to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 What does a professional footballer with near on 20 years experience and over 50 international caps know about anything? The Saintsweb boys decided he is rubbish, and not up to it. Who decided this, out of interest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSteve Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 Christ on a bike! The usual trolls hijack YET ANOTHER thread! When are the moderators gonna do something about the spammers on this board?? Is there any wonder no-one posts on this forum anymore? Totally agree.. They just post to promote controversy. In terms of rating Ramirez, it's fairly clear he is a class youngster learning to play in the PL. if flair players upset the morons then perhaps a dose of watching Stoke or West ham will bring them to their senses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 (edited) I find it ironic that people moan about people giving their opinion, its ok to peddle the myth Ramirez has been a fantastic success but anybody questioning the validity of the buy is harrassed, its crazy, do these people want everyone to say he has been great? That aint gonna happen. Edited 29 March, 2013 by Barry Sanchez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 Totally agree.. They just post to promote controversy. In terms of rating Ramirez, it's fairly clear he is a class youngster learning to play in the PL. if flair players upset the morons then perhaps a dose of watching Stoke or West ham will bring them to their senses. Again Stevo; who has said he is rubbish? Too many people trying to back up their opinions of Ramirez by applying a false opinion of others. Trolling behaviour, some might say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 I find it ironic that people moan about people gicing their opinion, its ok to peddle the myth Ramirez has been a fantastic success but anybody questioning the validity of the buy is harrassed, its crazy, do these people want everyone to say he has been great? That aint gonna happen. I think it´s okey for everybody that people state their opinion. But when it´s in many posts has to be followed by talks of "hairdresser", "girl" etc, that´s when it gets ridicolous and moronic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 Who decided this, out of interest? His boss rated Djemba Djemba, its not a question of not rating him, its a question of the relevance of the buy and the amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 His boss rated Djemba Djemba, its not a question of not rating him, its a question of the relevance of the buy and the amount. Precisely Baz. Ramirez is a decent player, and clearly our most skillful player. I don't think I've ever seen anyone deny that; yet the trolls on here try to attribute a "he's rubbish" attitude to anyone who says he's not the best use of resources for what we needed at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 I find it ironic that people moan about people giving their opinion, its ok to peddle the myth Ramirez has been a fantastic success but anybody questioning the validity of the buy is harrassed, its crazy, do these people want everyone to say he has been great? That aint gonna happen. Thing is I don't think I have ever said he has been an overwhelming success. All I have said is that he's young, will improve, has shown flashes of brilliance and is hugely talented. He just needs time to develop and become more consistent. He's learning all the time. You writing him off after 6 months into his first season In a new league when he's had injuries and family issue is just retarded. Give the lad a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 I think it´s okey for everybody that people state their opinion. But when it´s in many posts has to be followed by talks of "hairdresser", "girl" etc, that´s when it gets ridicolous and moronic. Well he plays like a hairdresser like many of the team, and he falls over all over the shop like a ****head, thats the truth, he has the stamina of an emphysema victim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 Thing is I don't think I have ever said he has been an overwhelming success. All I have said is that he's young, will improve, has shown flashes of brilliance and is hugely talented. He just needs time to develop and become more consistent. He's learning all the time. You writing him off after 6 months into his first season In a new league when he's had injuries and family issue is just retarded. Give the lad a break. I'm not writing him off, I dont think there was any need at this stage to buy one player like this, I question the relevance of the signing, not his ability, huge huge difference. In short he would be good at Arsenal but crap at Carlisle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 Thing is I don't think I have ever said he has been an overwhelming success. All I have said is that he's young, will improve, has shown flashes of brilliance and is hugely talented. He just needs time to develop and become more consistent. He's learning all the time. You writing him off after 6 months into his first season In a new league when he's had injuries and family issue is just retarded. Give the lad a break. Another troll who attributes false opinions to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 Another troll who attributes false opinions to others. If we could all adopt the krakers 'flawless' style, it would all be perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 How the **** am I a troll because I like to say positive things about my team?!? By claiming opinions that others don't have. Claiming Baz has "written off" Ramirez as a player. Others in this thread claiming that any dissenter of Ramirez, his cost and the value of his transfer fee think he is "rubbish". It's as if you're creating an argument you want to have, rather than dissecting an opposing point of view for what it actually is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 How the **** am I a troll because I like to say positive things about my team?!? Because you besmirch every supposed comment that you perceive negative (like many others), the stock and trade of a poor communicators are to fail too see (not not agree) the other side of opinion, in this case people who state Ramirez was a signing not needed are derided as saying he is crap, thats not been said at all and a lazy mistake, people are saying he is good but not the right part for our team at this time. Huge difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 Because you besmirch every supposed comment that you perceive negative (like many others), the stock and trade of a poor communicator is too fail to see (not not agree) the other side of opinion, in this case people who state Ramirez was a signing not needed are derided as saying he is crap, thats not been said at all and lazy mistake, people are saying he is good but not the right part for our team. Huge difference. And we're all taking lessons off you now in objective posting??? Hahahahaha..., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 Its funny how people base his price on his first 3/4 season at saints. Its a 4 year contract, he's 21. Think back to the Morgan slaters and how quickly he's improved. If in 4 years time we're saying he's a waste of money i'll be shocked. If his goals keep us up on the last day of the season he's worth 90m Or is it funny that so many people seem to miss the point that £12M and whatever in wages could possibly have been spent much more efficiently in other areas of the pitch and provided more overall benefit to the team this season? That SFC negelected other positions and such expenditure in favour of a player for the future. That, for this season, when survival was 9and still is) the absolute key, consolidation could have been achieved by a different transfer policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 And we're all taking lessons off you now in objective posting??? Hahahahaha..., You're learning Aveune, you're learning................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 Or is it funny that so many people seem to miss the point that £12M and whatever in wages could possibly have been spent much more efficiently in other areas of the pitch and provided more overall benefit to the team this season? That SFC negelected other positions and such expenditure in favour of a player for the future. That, for this season, when survival was 9and still is) the absolute key, consolidation could have been achieved by a different transfer policy. But he did a World class flick against QPR but but but....................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 Because you besmirch every supposed comment that you perceive negative (like many others), the stock and trade of a poor communicators are to fail too see (not not agree) the other side of opinion, in this case people who state Ramirez was a signing not needed are derided as saying he is crap, thats not been said at all and a lazy mistake, people are saying he is good but not the right part for our team at this time. Huge difference. Your comment would have had some validity if you had not added the bit in bold. Just showing that you do exactly what you accuse others of doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 29 March, 2013 Share Posted 29 March, 2013 Your comment would have had some validity if you had not added the bit in bold. Just showing that you do exactly what you accuse others of doing. I dont believe I did add it in bold, check again, no apology required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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