MP article

[whelk]

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For those interested

[Window Cleaner]

http://ind.pn/171VL7L

 

For those interested

 

he works you like a dog, sometimes you want to kill him, and to think Nigel was always telling us how hard the players worked.

Excellent point about JRod as well, must admit until Pochettino I couldn't see why we paid so much for him. Nigel cramped his style obviously, same as the two number 6s.

[Sour Mash]

he works you like a dog, sometimes you want to kill him, and to think Nigel was always telling us how hard the players worked.

Excellent point about JRod as well, must admit until Pochettino I couldn't see why we paid so much for him. Nigel cramped his style obviously, same as the two number 6s.

You seem obsessed with little digs at Adkins. Weird.

[trousers]

Here’s a question for you – and an answer you may well dismiss as perfectly ridiculous. But which Premier League chairmen are looking at this Dortmund team, and justifiably thinking: “That could be us in five years?” Daniel Levy? Possibly. Nicola Cortese? Most definitely.

Of course, we know what they do have in common. This season, both had the temerity to replace a popular English manager with an aloof whizz-kid from Iberian football – one who talked down to the press, and another who couldn’t talk to them at all. But if very few Spurs fans would now take back ’Arry, and duly remember their original outrage with quiet shame, then how bewildering must it feel down at Southampton?

Both the aversion and the therapy have been far more extreme at St Mary’s. When Cortese replaced Nigel Adkins with Mauricio Pochettino in January, he was denounced from every rooftop. Here was the effigy for the bonfire of football’s vanities. The club simmered with mutiny. Even lifelong Saints anticipated relegation with grim relish. Fans of other clubs expressed scandalised fellowship. Just when the team had found its feet, it had been lurched into a tailspin: it was sickening, embarrassing, enough finally to extinguish the last embers of your love for the game.

Only now it turns out to have been a stroke of genius. As their team glides stylishly up the table, taking the scalps of Manchester City and Liverpool and Chelsea, Southampton fans have quickly acknowledged that they owed Cortese more respect. "

 

There were a few of us that didn't overreact...

[Window Cleaner]

You seem obsessed with little digs at Adkins. Weird.

 

didn't rate him that's why...not in the PL anyway. To me we should have changed him after the first few PL games. Always out of his depth.

[OldNick]

didn't rate him that's why...not in the PL anyway. To me we should have changed him after the first few PL games. Always out of his depth.

WC this is an amusing read, http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?42459-Nigel-Adkins-Sacked&highlight=Adkins+sacked more kneejerks than in the US national country dancing championships

[Window Cleaner]

WC this is an amusing read, http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?42459-Nigel-Adkins-Sacked&highlight=Adkins+sacked more kneejerks than in the US national country dancing championships

 

well yes, I was one of the "45" and one of the few not wringing my hands and tearing my hair out.

[The Kraken]

well yes, I was one of the "45" and one of the few not wringing my hands and tearing my hair out.

 

Go you.

[KelvinsRightGlove]

But I thought it was a myth that MP was any good at espanyol? Just like the idea that the team is playing well under him?

 

The forum oracles told me so, so it must be FACT.

 

I'm ever so confused.

[The Kraken]

But I thought it was a myth that MP was any good at espanyol? Just like the idea that the team is playing well under him?

 

The forum oracles told me so, so it must be FACT.

 

I'm ever so confused.

 

Very covert. Who told you what? Or is it all secret squirrel talking in codes

[musesaint]

I wrote that

[UpweySaint]

Honestly people being smug about Poch doing well, get over it.

 

Most of the critics, myself included, acknowledged Poch may well be a talented manager but it was the way things were done that so many of us disagreed with.

 

Honestly glad to see Poch building on NA's solid foundations but I honestly dont think we can effectively judge him one way or the other until he's had longer in the job and the ability to shape the side how he see's fit. He has made a promising start and that is great though!

[saint lard]

he works you like a dog, sometimes you want to kill him, and to think Nigel was always telling us how hard the players worked.

Excellent point about JRod as well, must admit until Pochettino I couldn't see why we paid so much for him. Nigel cramped his style obviously, same as the two number 6s.

 

You seem obsessed with little digs at Adkins. Weird.

 

didn't rate him that's why...not in the PL anyway. To me we should have changed him after the first few PL games. Always out of his depth.

 

 

You were right to not rate him as highly as many on here.

quite a few uturns on various threads from people with there views on Adkins now.

They didnt have the courage of their convictions at the time though to dare too speak about any of his frailties and flaws.

but we're quick enough to lambast the ones that did.

[The Kraken]

Honestly people being smug about Poch doing well, get over it.

 

Most of the critics, myself included, acknowledged Poch may well be a talented manager but it was the way things were done that so many of us disagreed with.

 

Honestly glad to see Poch building on NA's solid foundations but I honestly dont think we can effectively judge him one way or the other until he's had longer in the job and the ability to shape the side how he see's fit. He has made a promising start and that is great though!

 

Spot on. Still, they seem to want to have their day in the sun for some strange reason.

[trousers]

Honestly people being smug about Poch doing well, get over it.

 

Most of the critics, myself included, acknowledged Poch may well be a talented manager but it was the way things were done that so many of us disagreed with.

 

Honestly glad to see Poch building on NA's solid foundations but I honestly dont think we can effectively judge him one way or the other until he's had longer in the job and the ability to shape the side how he see's fit. He has made a promising start and that is great though!

 

The poll (in the thread linked above) wasn't asking if sacking Nigel had been "done the right way", it was asking if people felt the underlying decision itself was correct. In other words, answering "yes" to the poll question wouldn't have compromised the almost universal view that it could have been handled better, especially from a PR perspective at the time.

[The Kraken]

The poll (in the thread linked above) wasn't asking if sacking Nigel had been "done the right way", it was asking if people felt the underlying decision itself was correct. In other words, answering "yes" to the poll question wouldn't have compromised the almost universal view that it could have been handled better, especially from a PR perspective at the time.

 

What did you vote for, troozers?

[CB Fry]

Honestly people being smug about Poch doing well, get over it.

 

Most of the critics, myself included, acknowledged Poch may well be a talented manager but it was the way things were done that so many of us disagreed with.

 

Honestly glad to see Poch building on NA's solid foundations but I honestly dont think we can effectively judge him one way or the other until he's had longer in the job and the ability to shape the side how he see's fit. He has made a promising start and that is great though!

 

This is spot on.

 

Once MP has actually built a team, then we'll know whether this has been a success or not.

 

This time next year would be a good time to review.

[trousers]

What did you vote for, troozers?

 

Neither

[kpturner]

Mauricio Cortese ?!

[UpweySaint]

The poll (in the thread linked above) wasn't asking if sacking Nigel had been "done the right way", it was asking if people felt the underlying decision itself was correct. In other words, answering "yes" to the poll question wouldn't have compromised the almost universal view that it could have been handled better, especially from a PR perspective at the time.

 

But the decision cannot be simply taken out of context. Hiring MP may be a very good decision but the timing and nature may not. I think we can all agree it left a very bitter taste in the mouth. Either way I stand by what I said in that we cant really evaluate the decision so soon in a fair way. Personally I hope MP goes on to prove a lot of the sceptics, including myself, very wrong!

[Minsk]

You were right to not rate him as highly as many on here.

quite a few uturns on various threads from people with there views on Adkins now.

They didnt have the courage of their convictions at the time though to dare too speak about any of his frailties and flaws.

but we're quick enough to lambast the ones that did.

 

Yes because, as you predicted, Adkins failed to get us promoted from L1 and from the Championship and had us in the bottom three of the PL all season. He was also constantly tactically found out by better and more experienced managers (especially last season) - despite keeping us in the top 2 all season - and completely lost the dressing room within months of being appointed (as was evidenced by back to back promotions).

[Turkish]

I still laugh that when the rumours were in the media that Adkins was going to be sacked and even on that very morning when it was in the news that he was had/been sacked it was dismissed as bullsh it and anti Saints agendas in the media.

[trousers]

But the decision cannot be simply taken out of context. Hiring MP may be a very good decision but the timing and nature may not.

 

That's why I tend to abstain on 'black and white' polls such as this. If the poll question had been: "Despite the way it was handled, do you have a hunch that Cortese has made the right decision here?" my answer would have been "yes".