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One was SISU and the other was believed to be from Marcus Evans, who subsequently invested in another of Saints’ Championship rivals, Ipswich Town.

 

In addition, Crouch met or talked with a handful of possible investors during his time on the Saints board.

 

They included Dan Williams, who was at one time linked with investing in Blackburn Rovers.

 

For more Saints news don't miss today's Daily Echo.

 

Marcus Evans is a new one on me.:confused:

 

As for Dan Williams perhaps his transvestite tendancies went againt him.

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Crouch, Stanley etc what are you waiting for the solution is there!

 

No need for further moans or talking, - one of these knights in shining armour can sort it all out and Lowe will walk away!

 

or perhaps it was never that simple?;)

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Crouch, Stanley etc what are you waiting for the solution is there!

 

No need for further moans or talking one of these knights in shining armour can sort it all out and Lowe will walk away!

 

or perhaps it was never that simple?;)

 

Crouch as chairman was better than snake and Lowe.

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crouch as chairman?

 

jesus, some of you are never happy..

 

i remember when crouch first came on the scene...there was roughly a 10 page thread about peoples dislike for crouch...with sayings like "NOT IN MY NAME".....when crouch claimed he was talking for the fans..

 

no he is ok?

 

loltastic

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crouch as chairman?

 

jesus, some of you are never happy..

 

i remember when crouch first came on the scene...there was roughly a 10 page thread about peoples dislike for crouch...with sayings like "NOT IN MY NAME".....when crouch claimed he was talking for the fans..

 

no he is ok?

 

loltastic

Only 10 pages :) There have been hundreds of threads about Lowe, and dozens about the Quisling. In the(un)popularity stakes, Lowe and Wilde outstrip Crouch by miles. I was also against Crouch, primarily for the way he used to shoot from the hip, but he has proved to be by far the most astute chairman we have had in the last few years, recognising that he does not have the acumen to run the club alone, but working with someone with the skills of Lee Hoos in the background. I still feel that if these two could have harnessed the abilities of Cowen as well we would have had a good board in charge. Many people did not (do not) like Crouch, but with the exception of his dallying in appointing a proper successor to the lame Scot Burley, most recognise that he did not do a lot wrong in his short tenure and acted with a damn sight more dignity than Lowe or Wilde could ever muster. At the end of the day he is the only one who truly supports this Club, and puts his money where his mouth is by continuing to sponsor it despite having to hand the money over to Lowe and Co.

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Only 10 pages :) There have been hundreds of threads about Lowe, and dozens about the Quisling. In the(un)popularity stakes, Lowe and Wilde outstrip Crouch by miles. I was also against Crouch, primarily for the way he used to shoot from the hip, but he has proved to be by far the most astute chairman we have had in the last few years, recognising that he does not have the acumen to run the club alone, but working with someone with the skills of Lee Hoos in the background. I still feel that if these two could have harnessed the abilities of Cowen as well we would have had a good board in charge. Many people did not (do not) like Crouch, but with the exception of his dallying in appointing a proper successor to the lame Scot Burley, most recognise that he did not do a lot wrong in his short tenure and acted with a damn sight more dignity than Lowe or Wilde could ever muster. At the end of the day he is the only one who truly supports this Club, and puts his money where his mouth is by continuing to sponsor it despite having to hand the money over to Lowe and Co.

 

are you sure...hows about all the times he mislead the fans with promises of takeovers every week....that was not fair

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well he should buy Lowe out then -simple, or stop moaning about it!

 

Oh how i wish he would[-o

 

On the subject of moaning about things, when will your hero stop complaining,moaning and finger pointing at others yet ignores his quisling`s part in the mess and refuses to take ANY resposibility

for his own gross mismanagement?....my guess is never!!

 

Yet you complain about Crouch moaning....priceless.

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well seems a good time for Crouch to show his worth, get the feeling he is all talk

 

we had the Allen thing

 

we had the I will put money in (if the other do)

 

the financing of players (turned out to be offer of strings attached loan)

 

the mysterious take over, days away at the end of last season, which came to nothing

 

if he really wants Lowe out, and can do more, then surely he can either independently, or with other buy out Lowe?

 

His tenure gave us the worst football this club has had and lowest league position for generations - he says if he was here it would add 5000 to the gate?

 

put up or shut up!

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well seems a good time for Crouch to show his worth, get the feeling he is all talk

 

we had the Allen thing

 

we had the I will put money in (if the other do)

 

the financing of players (turned out to be offer of strings attached loan)

 

the mysterious take over days away at the end of last season which came to nothing

 

if he really wants Lowe out and can do more then surely he can either independently, or with other buy out Lowe?

 

His tenure gave us the worst football this club has had and lowest league position for generations - he says if he was here it would add 5000 to the gate?

 

put up or shut up!

 

Oh my!!!

 

When are you and rupert of shooting together again...

 

You really can see no wrong in his actions can you?

 

I really think i need to put you in ignore.

When are you and rupert off shooting together again...

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Oh how i wish he would[-o

 

On the subject of moaning about things, when will your hero stop complaining,moaning and finger pointing at others yet ignores his quisling`s part in the mess and refuses to take ANY resposibility

for his own gross mismanagement?....my guess is never!!

 

Yet you complain about Crouch moaning....priceless.

 

god Lowe as a hero -thats stretching it a bit!

 

I wish all board members would shut up, apart from any needed announcements, and totally refrain from talking about each other, so yes agree with you

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Oh my!!!

 

When are you and rupert of shooting together again...

 

You really can see no wrong in his actions can you?

 

I really think i need to put you in ignore.

When are you and rupert off shooting together again...

 

if that is all you have as a come back then you cant argue his points...which stand..love or hate lowe..what nickg has written is correct...

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Oh my!!!

 

When are you and rupert of shooting together again...

 

You really can see no wrong in his actions can you?

 

I really think i need to put you in ignore.

When are you and rupert off shooting together again...

 

that's a shame you missed me agreeing with your last post!

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My offer to him has been ignored many times.

Lowey should walk now and take his Lavender Hill Mob with him.....He is seeking the limelight once again....A few more bad results and we are in it up to our necks.

Suddenly he sprouts forward with all this attention seeking rubbish...Once again proving what we have always suspected..in it for himself and his massive ego.

NickG have a word with your boss, please.

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well seems a good time for Crouch to show his worth, get the feeling he is all talk

 

we had the Allen thing

 

we had the I will put money in (if the other do)

 

the financing of players (turned out to be offer of strings attached loan)

 

the mysterious take over, days away at the end of last season, which came to nothing

 

if he really wants Lowe out, and can do more, then surely he can either independently, or with other buy out Lowe?

 

His tenure gave us the worst football this club has had and lowest league position for generations - he says if he was here it would add 5000 to the gate?

 

put up or shut up!

 

Sorry Nick but you're talking out of your arse.

 

Crouch's tenure gave us the lowest league position for generations???? Worst Football???

 

Hmmmm where did we end up last season and where are we now???

 

Still drawing games that we should be winning (Groundhog Day of the Prem Relegation).

 

Lowe doesn't want out, he wants sheep like you to think so......

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higher than we were with 20 mins to go last season, how's your arse sounding!

 

this season's home form is sh!t before you claim I am saying anything different

 

And after the last 20 mins...what happened?

 

Anyway, that is now consigned to history, as is our relegation year, but can you not see the comparisons already??

 

An increasing squad level, full of loanees, and matches when we should be taking 3 points when we end up with 1 or less.....sound familiar???

 

Also, noticed that when Lowe was slagging off the previous boards (but again ironically hinted at Wilde's involvement) he mentioned about staff 'pay-offs' - hmmmmmm...

 

Nothing mentioned about his 'pay-off' when ousted (how much was that?) and Clifford and SCW......

 

Nothing like rewriting history to back up your argument.

 

Will be interesting to see who Rupey's associates vote for at the AGM....I had a Mystic Meg moment earlier....

 

WOULDN'T IT BE FUNNY IF ASKHAM, LOWE ETC VOTED WILDE OUT????!! ;)

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Sorry Nick but you're talking out of your arse.

 

Crouch's tenure gave us the lowest league position for generations???? when have we been lower?Worst Football???some awful games last year

 

Hmmmm where did we end up last season and where are we now???bit higher arn't we? with cheaper squad

 

Still drawing games that we should be winning (Groundhog Day of the Prem Relegation).totally agree

 

Lowe doesn't want out, he wants sheep like you to think so......

 

no need to get so personal!

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And after the last 20 mins...what happened?

 

Anyway, that is now consigned to history, as is our relegation year, but can you not see the comparisons already??

 

An increasing squad level, full of loanees, and matches when we should be taking 3 points when we end up with 1 or less.....sound familiar???

 

Also, noticed that when Lowe was slagging off the previous boards (but again ironically hinted at Wilde's involvement) he mentioned about staff 'pay-offs' - hmmmmmm...

 

Nothing mentioned about his 'pay-off' when ousted (how much was that?) and Clifford and SCW......

 

Nothing like rewriting history to back up your argument.

 

Will be interesting to see who Rupey's associates vote for at the AGM....I had a Mystic Meg moment earlier....

 

WOULDN'T IT BE FUNNY IF ASKHAM, LOWE ETC VOTED WILDE OUT????!! ;)

 

Then Wilde can join Crouch again and oust Lowe, Poortvliet can spend £7million....

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This latest comment from Lowe about being "open for offeres" is just a re-hash of his old tactics. Of course he's open to offers - most things have a price but Lowe's greed ensures that what Lowe wants is way above what anyone will pay.

 

After a spell of Lowe trying to give the false impression that he's changed and learnt he's once again embarking on his usual method of attack:

 

DIVIDE AND RULE

 

Lowee see's fans (or customers) are an annoying necessity but one which gives him the limelight his ego craves. He's once again playing his games and trying to further polarise the fanbase. You see with Lowe he has no positive contribution to bring to SFC so all he can do is embark on negative campaigning to try to divide and conquer.

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This latest comment from Lowe about being "open for offeres" is just a re-hash of his old tactics. Of course he's open to offers - most things have a price but Lowe's greed ensures that what Lowe wants is way above what anyone will pay.

 

After a spell of Lowe trying to give the false impression that he's changed and learnt he's once again embarking on his usual method of attack:

 

DIVIDE AND RULE

 

Lowee see's fans (or customers) are an annoying necessity but one which gives him the limelight his ego craves. He's once again playing his games and trying to further polarise the fanbase. You see with Lowe he has no positive contribution to bring to SFC so all he can do is embark on negative campaigning to try to divide and conquer.

 

So if that is the case then Stanley, shouldn't we rebel against Lowe and unite behind the team (after all that what fans do). Support the team during the game and then by all means demonstrate against Lowe after the game.

 

But of course, this would go against your philosophy. So by boycotting SMS and allowing Lowe to divide the fanbase, then you appear to be helping him with his 'divide & conquer' campaign.

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Why don't all of us who want Lowe out wear YELLOW to the Forest game - just before the AGM.

 

Good idea Pennyred.

 

Get the famous yellow colours out, no clash with Forest's colours and allows us all to get behind the team whilst making our point to Lowe that we want him out.

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  • 2 weeks later...

STOCKBROKING group WH Ireland has turned the tables on London rival Blue Oar with plans for a takeover offer.

 

Earlier this year, Manchester-based WH Ireland saw off Blue Oar after a takeover approach.

 

WH Ireland refused to discuss the proposals, saying they were not in shareholders' best interests, and Blue Oar decided not to proceed with a hostile bid.

 

WH Ireland has now declared its interest in buying Blue Oar.

 

It said in a statement that it believed the firms are `highly complementary' and a deal would enable it to expand its main business areas of private client broking, asset management and investment banking.

 

Blue Oar, founded in 1995, has five divisions which turned over a total of £17.2m last year and made pre-tax profits of £1.9m. However, it lost £1.6m in the first half of 2008.

 

WH Ireland, with 15 UK offices and a presence in Australia, turned over £42.7m in the year to November 30, 2007, and made £3.8m profits.

 

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/business/s/1086680_wh_ireland_turns_tables_on_blue_oar_with_offer

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why dont crouch,lowe and wilde sell their shares?

because they dont want to,they all want the same thing,to be in control and this,sadly will go on and on and on until somebody makes an offer that is to good to refuse,but there is nobody out there with the slightest bit of interest in investing in our club,nobody with a decent sized bank acount anyway.

so all we will get is chancers,cheapskates and tyre kickers,something i dont want and something we should all be wary of.we need investment that will instantly wipe out the stadium debt,chuck £10-£15mil of team investment in the pot and entice the fans back with a decent manager coupled with a realistic pricing structure...........but this is never going to happen whilst the 3 amigos are constantly trying to score points of each other.

 

i will say it again,whatever is said by them in public.....THEY DONT WANT TO SELL.

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why dont crouch,lowe and wilde sell their shares?

because they dont want to,they all want the same thing,to be in control and this,sadly will go on and on and on until somebody makes an offer that is to good to refuse,but there is nobody out there with the slightest bit of interest in investing in our club,nobody with a decent sized bank acount anyway.

so all we will get is chancers,cheapskates and tyre kickers,something i dont want and something we should all be wary of.we need investment that will instantly wipe out the stadium debt,chuck £10-£15mil of team investment in the pot and entice the fans back with a decent manager coupled with a realistic pricing structure...........but this is never going to happen whilst the 3 amigos are constantly trying to score points of each other.

 

i will say it again,whatever is said by them in public.....THEY DONT WANT TO SELL.

 

Sadly your last statement is all too true, they don't want to relinquish the train set, they just want to use the club as an excuse to make headlines in the Echo arguing and in Lowe's case his pet PR flunky Charles Sale. They are all pathetic, including Crouch, and the club will be dead in 18 months. Pity the bank can't force a sale really. Rupert even sank as badly as to put plants on this site's forerunners and I'm fairly sure he's done the same again recently.

 

The only way to remove them for good is prolonged demos and making their life so awful on a matchday that they are hounded out. Nothing illegal or violent, just keeping them on their toes with a hostile atmosphere. I'm just advocating some Lowe/Wilde out posters on their windscreens and chanting from all of us at the games. At the Ipswich game in 05/06, the whole ground was singing "Stand up if you want Lowe out" and that was very powerful. If you see them in the Itchen stand, tell them you want them gone.

 

Sadly, our fanbase is so divided and some people so brainwashed by the spin and so many others have just had enough and have lost the fight.

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Sadly, our fanbase is so divided and some people so brainwashed by the spin and so many others have just had enough and have lost the fight.

 

I am in the last bit, all the fight has gone along with my resolve to watch the abysmal team and will not renew my 2 ST's as I have had enough.

I don't blame the players so much its that they are being let down by off the pitch idiots who couldn't run a **** up in a brewery.

We were abysmal yet look how long it took to make a substitution! BWP has been pretty good out on the left in the last few games yet gets dropped for a bloke that was clearly unfit and off the pace. When Holmes did get the ball in the box we had 1 striker in there - 4-3-3 - 4-5-1 my arse the players have no idea what they are playing let alone the crowd.

I left feeling even more angy than I have done from any game previously at the sheer incompetence of how we are being managed.

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i would go with that...just cant be arsed to go anymore..if that makes me a plastic for going what..once or twice a season...then fine...

 

I tell you it does not come easy after nearly 40 years of watching the firsts, stiffs and u18s!

I was SOOO angry Saturday night that when I left just before the whistle it took ages for me to calm down and a few beers.

All this plastic crap is just that - if we were winning and being entertained then we would have gates like Saturday but the dross that is being served up is driving away the most loyal.

I cannot justify over £500 just to get angry and watch this complete shower I would rather play golf or watch a non-league side as the quality isn't that much different!

All this emotional blackmail stuff posted on here is just all ******** and should be treated that as that.

No-one wants to see us in this position but its been done by years of mis-management by all parties and we need to clear the lot out.

I cannot see how anyone can keep sticking up for this lot after Saturday - I have been saying for ages this guy is tactically naive and this game proved it.

Holmes for BWP the guy hasn't played a competitive game for 3 months and he gets picked in the most important game in recent weeks!

So come April and Early Bird there are certainly 2 that will not get renewed and if that makes me plastic after 40 years then so be it and I will pick and choose my games with the rest.

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shares are 24p. Market value of the club if £6.74m. Lowe has around 6.5%, worth £438,100. His little consortium own 26%, worth £1.75m. All somewhat down on the 40p ish prices they paid. Unless some chump pays well over the odds Lowe is going to be here to try to turn the club around financially and get that shareprice back up. Sadly unlike other businesses simply cutting staff and being prudent doesn't get a football club back where we want it to be. That can only mean he is going to be here for a long long time.

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I am in the last bit, all the fight has gone along with my resolve to watch the abysmal team and will not renew my 2 ST's as I have had enough.

I don't blame the players so much its that they are being let down by off the pitch idiots who couldn't run a **** up in a brewery.

We were abysmal yet look how long it took to make a substitution! BWP has been pretty good out on the left in the last few games yet gets dropped for a bloke that was clearly unfit and off the pace. When Holmes did get the ball in the box we had 1 striker in there - 4-3-3 - 4-5-1 my arse the players have no idea what they are playing let alone the crowd.

I left feeling even more angy than I have done from any game previously at the sheer incompetence of how we are being managed.

 

Earlier in the season Holmes got some pretty tasty crosses in IMO but there was no-one to head them in which is what the delivery deserved. We need to get some height and pace in up front and if that means selling Surman that's what we have to do. Know how you feel because even in the circumstances the team management and selections are wacky and inconsistent and I have little sympathy for the players either - if you don't want pressure, play for a non-league side and get a job like the rest of us with a mortgage and committments. I don't expect miracles at present but bottling challenges like Forest's second goal (twice as well) is disgraceful and deserved the abuse it rightly got from the people sitting around me.

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shares are 24p. Market value of the club if £6.74m. Lowe has around 6.5%, worth £438,100. His little consortium own 26%, worth £1.75m. All somewhat down on the 40p ish prices they paid. Unless some chump pays well over the odds Lowe is going to be here to try to turn the club around financially and get that shareprice back up. Sadly unlike other businesses simply cutting staff and being prudent doesn't get a football club back where we want it to be. That can only mean he is going to be here for a long long time.

 

Very true but as with any business (and politics), if the customers and stakeholders want the leader gone, he will be gone. We need a concerted and intense campaign similar to that which removed Branfoot. If Lowe and Askham's matchday experience is made highly uncomfortable they are more likely to bail out. If you take SMS attitudes and those posted on here, 90% want him and his minions gone so instead of squabbling or saying "there's no alternative", let's home in on Lordswood's point, remember that we are all Saints fans and turn on these people. Moreover, the swollen gate numbers might actually say to any non-tyre kickers that we do have potential given some direction, moderate investment and people that know what they are doing.

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shares are 24p. Market value of the club if £6.74m. Lowe has around 6.5%, worth £438,100. His little consortium own 26%, worth £1.75m. All somewhat down on the 40p ish prices they paid. Unless some chump pays well over the odds Lowe is going to be here to try to turn the club around financially and get that shareprice back up. Sadly unlike other businesses simply cutting staff and being prudent doesn't get a football club back where we want it to be. That can only mean he is going to be here for a long long time.

 

didnt crouch pay over the 60p mark? if so i doubt he will want to sell at 24p,even 54p would be a big loss.i know he has stated that he will give his shares to the right person but who is the 'right person'? does he mean the 'right person' that will get rid of lowe and improve our club or the right person who will get rid of lowe and reinstate crouch in the hot seat?

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