AndyNorthernSaints Posted 9 December, 2008 Share Posted 9 December, 2008 Davis Cork, Perry, Pearce, Skacel James, Schneiderlin, Lallana, Surman Euell, Paterson subs Forcast BWP McGoaldrought Wotton Gillett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 9 December, 2008 Share Posted 9 December, 2008 What about Robertson, Gasmi, Smith and Pulis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Strover Posted 9 December, 2008 Share Posted 9 December, 2008 Who cares? It'll be the same performance....Burnley don't lack muscle do they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1Minus10 Posted 9 December, 2008 Share Posted 9 December, 2008 4-4-2 Euell Pekhart Surman Wotton Schneiderlin Lallana Skacel Perry Pearce Cork Davis Subs: McGoldrick, Bialkowski, James, Gasmi, Wright-Phillips However, we will play the ****y formation with the one forward and not have any shots again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gully Posted 10 December, 2008 Share Posted 10 December, 2008 10 men behind the ball, don't give away any set piece or let them shoot within 30 yards and nick a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaptopSaint Posted 10 December, 2008 Share Posted 10 December, 2008 Davis Cork, Perry, Pearce, Skacel James, Schneiderlin, Lallana, Surman Euell, Paterson subs Forcast BWP McGoaldrought Wotton Gillett I think I'm with you there Andy, although maybe BWP for James... but changes up front for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 10 December, 2008 Share Posted 10 December, 2008 My problem is it does not matter what side i pick from the 20 odd players , i cannot come up with one that will stop us falling to physical pressure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John D Posted 10 December, 2008 Share Posted 10 December, 2008 My problem is it does not matter what side i pick from the 20 odd players ' date=' i cannot come up with one that will stop us falling to physical pressure[/quote'] Or one that can find the back of the net Whilst I would move to 4-4-2 I don't expect Jan to therefore based on his formation I would go with Davis Cork, Perry, Pearce, Skacel Schnederlin, Wooton BWP, Lallana, Surman Euell With BWP on the right and Lallana in the hole and Surman on the left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 10 December, 2008 Share Posted 10 December, 2008 --------Davis James Cork Perry Mills -Schneiderlin Wotton -Surman Euell Skacel ------Paterson Subs: Forecast, Pearce, BWP, Lallana, McGoldrick. Surman on the right isn't ideal but we need to give Lallana and McGoldrick a rest IMO and we need to find a space for Surman, he's the only one who looks like scoring. Surman played some of his best football from the right so if he holds his position well enough then I think he will do well there. The team will probably be more like: ----------Davis James Pearce Perry Skacel ----Schneiderlin Cork ---Lallana Surman BWP -------McGoldrick Personally I don't think there is anywhere near enough experience in the final third with that team, need to go with Skacel and Euell up there to give us some more muscle and experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 10 December, 2008 Share Posted 10 December, 2008 i would have... -------------davis -----cork----perry----skacel james-wotton-schneider-surman -----------lallana----------- ------euell------bwp---- sh1t or bust imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 10 December, 2008 Share Posted 10 December, 2008 - - - - - - Davis - - - - - - Cork - Pearce - Perry - Mills Lallana - Surman - MS - Skacel - - - - Euell - - - BWP - - - - Time for a bit of good old 4-4-2. Drop all this 4-1-2-1-1-2-1-1-2-1-1-2-1-2-1-1-2- formation ******. Keep it simple, have the players in a proven system and play some players who actually know how to play football. Drop James, DMG and Robertson who have been karp for too long IMO. Pearce can stay as I think Palace was just a one off 'Bennett' game. Skacel seems to be the only player who knows the first thing about crossing and can shoot when he gets forward. I never thought I'd say this, but Euell and BWP are our best option up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 10 December, 2008 Share Posted 10 December, 2008 As long as Jan has the bottle to stick to 4-2-1-2-1 and keep the faith then I will be happy. I would go with: ----------Davis James Pearce Perry Skacel ----Schneiderlin Cork ----------Euell Lallana----------BWP ----------DMG Subs: Paterson, Forecast, Lancashire, Wotton, Mills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbob40 Posted 10 December, 2008 Share Posted 10 December, 2008 .............Davis............... James Pearce Perry Skacel .......Morgan.... Cork....... ............Euell................ Lallana..............Surman....... .............BWP................ Euell has to play, BWP up front,Goldmember to sub. Much more solid..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 10 December, 2008 Share Posted 10 December, 2008 I'd rather play Pearce upfront than bloody BWP as a lone striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 10 December, 2008 Share Posted 10 December, 2008 As long as Jan has the bottle to stick to 4-2-1-2-1 and keep the faith then I will be happy. I would go with: ----------Davis James Pearce Perry Skacel ----Schneiderlin Cork ----------Euell Lallana----------BWP ----------DMG Subs: Paterson, Forecast, Lancashire, Wotton, Mills Agreed; as long as Euell is fit his experience could be the key, and unfortunately we have no viable alternative to DMcG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 10 December, 2008 Share Posted 10 December, 2008 How is switching a formation they're comfortable with keeping it simple? These players played this formation for years. I don't recall seeing 2 up front in the youth team. We are struggling to find ONE striker right now, let alone two. Davis James Cork Perry Skacel Schniederlin Wotton Thomson Lallana Surman DMG assuming none of svensson, thomson or euell are fit. or that saga can come straight back after aalborgs season ends tonight. Sorry, but I can't buy the idea that 4-4-2 might be alien to these players. I don't know about you, but whenever I played at school and with friends, 4-4-2 was the default setting. Having one guy up front on his own just isn't working. Especially when that player is someone like Robertson, who just seems to have no impact on the game, or DMG who is lazy and can't hold the ball up to save his life. We do have 2 decent strikers in Euell and BWP, and I think they would compliment each other quite well. Against Wolves, Euell's hold up play was excellent. He showed the strength and composure on the ball that was absent for most of last season. If we have him leading the line, with BWP playing off him and Lallana, Surman and Skacel all supporting from midfield, we may see a few more goals. Otherwise we're going to have a lot more games like Palace, Norwich and Charlton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted 10 December, 2008 Share Posted 10 December, 2008 --------------Davis-------------- Perry-----Cork----Pearce-----Mills Lallanna -- Schei----Wotton---Surman ------- --BWP----Euell--------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 10 December, 2008 Share Posted 10 December, 2008 Even if 4-4-2 is alien to these players we should at least try it for 20-30 minutes at the end of a game, if we're 1-0 down there is nothing to lose. After all only 4 of our starting 11 are from the academy, I bet the majority of Cork, Euell, Pearce, KD, Perry, Skacel, Morgan and BWP are much more used to a 4-4-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 10 December, 2008 Share Posted 10 December, 2008 Not alien no, just I don't see it being the magic fix-all being touted on here. Euell hasn't played as a striker for years. His best time was at attacking midfield, which is why I've always suggested putting him in Lallana's position in the current formation. He'd get in the box more, score more and provide more experience in the final third. Lallana can then play wide right or drop to the bench for a while. BWP can compete for wide right or striker. DMG is just a striker. Holmes, Skacel or Surman have to be left wing, and Robertson can leave. But if you're losing a game, or struggling to score at home, it's logical to have 2 strikers on whatever the formation. I'd hope for 4-2-4 with two wide players in that situation. But I'm not convinced we have the strikers full stop. Pekhart hasn't worked out so surely we need a replacement for him. There is no magic fix, but it sure as heck would help. 11 league games at SMS this season, 1 win and only 8 goals. Having one up front just isn't working. Saganowski, much maligned last season, scored at a higher rate than anyone in our current squad. One up front just isn't working. I would also disagree that Euell is better in midfield. I thought he always looked at his best up front for the Dons and Charlton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 10 December, 2008 Share Posted 10 December, 2008 Davis Cork, Perry, Pearce, Skacel James, Schneiderlin, Lallana, Surman Euell, Paterson subs Forcast BWP McGoaldrought Wotton Gillett How can you leave BWP out? By far our best player on Monday night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Monkey Posted 10 December, 2008 Share Posted 10 December, 2008 Shall we make this the prediction thread too? 2-1 Saints COYR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wooley11 Posted 10 December, 2008 Share Posted 10 December, 2008 4-4-2 Euell Pekhart Surman Wotton Schneiderlin Lallana Skacel Perry Pearce Cork Davis Subs: McGoldrick, Bialkowski, James, Gasmi, Wright-Phillips However, we will play the ****y formation with the one forward and not have any shots again CCC shots statistics 1 Saints - On Target 157 - Off Target 136 - Hit WW 5 2 Wolves - 162 - 122 - 10 3 ipswich - 150 - 127 - 14 And so on http://www.football-league.co.uk/page/ClubShooting/0,,10794~20087,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 10 December, 2008 Share Posted 10 December, 2008 i would try... davis cork perry pearce mills james lallana surman rudi BWP euell that is if morgan is not fit.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 10 December, 2008 Share Posted 10 December, 2008 I think he's playing mills further forward as he's worried he's too weak at left back. Might be best to switch him and Skacel. I'd worry about a Lallana/Surman central midfield too. But James could definitely play right midfield. He was excellent at times running at the man down the right on monday. maybe drop lallana for this one..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 10 December, 2008 Share Posted 10 December, 2008 He could definatly do with a rest. Same with McGoldrick, they've played pretty much every minute so far. Giving them both a rest could be advantagous for them both and the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 10 December, 2008 Share Posted 10 December, 2008 Schnierlein was meant to be fit for one of the last two games but ended up playing neither and was not mentioned on the os report of the team selection for Palace. Given that is's getting near to January and he's been rumoured to be one of the ones sold is it safe to assume he isn't likely to be risked in what is left of Dec and we have seen the last of him in a Saints shirt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 10 December, 2008 Share Posted 10 December, 2008 Davis Cork, Perry, Pearce, Skacel James/Thompson, Schneiderlin, Lallana, Surman Euell, Paterson/BWP Hope your wrong Once Bitterne, he is the key to our team. We need as many points on the board as possible before January, presuming we will lose a number of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 10 December, 2008 Share Posted 10 December, 2008 Schnierlein was meant to be fit for one of the last two games but ended up playing neither and was not mentioned on the os report of the team selection for Palace. Given that is's getting near to January and he's been rumoured to be one of the ones sold is it safe to assume he isn't likely to be risked in what is left of Dec and we have seen the last of him in a Saints shirt? More likely that Jan didn't want to aggrivate his hamstring injury. No point rushing him back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 10 December, 2008 Share Posted 10 December, 2008 More likely that Jan didn't want to aggrivate his hamstring injury. No point rushing him back again. But he said in the build up Morgan should be back for the Palace match (which he obviously wasn't) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 10 December, 2008 Share Posted 10 December, 2008 Lallana and McGoldrick need a bloody good talking to. Their roaming all over the pitch, like playground football, chasing the ball, is destroying our ability to score goals. They either have to play in the manner their designated position requires, whilst being self disciplined enough to get into dangerous positions or leave them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 10 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 10 December, 2008 How can you leave BWP out? By far our best player on Monday night What did he do? Playing out wide,did he beat his man? Did he get to the byline and put in a decent cross? Did he win any headers? Was he a goal threat? Was he offide often? Did he lose posession mostly? Did he get subbed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 10 December, 2008 Share Posted 10 December, 2008 What did he do? Good touches, looked lively, generally did well Playing out wide,did he beat his man? Was played out of position. Even if he had, no-one to cross it too, maybe why he looked up and came inside. Did he get to the byline and put in a decent cross? To who exactly? Did he win any headers? Not sure that he is likely too, not really a valid question IMO, how many headers do wingers win? Was he a goal threat? Our best chance of a goal IMO, looked sharp. Was he offide often? No more than anyone else i dont think Did he lose posession mostly? No. One miss control from a Wotton pass seems to stick in peoples memory. Skacel had a couple similar. Did he get subbed? How does that even matter?! DMG didnt get subbed and he was carp Seems he is being persecuted for previous poor performances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 11 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 11 December, 2008 Seems he is being persecuted for previous poor performances Not at all. BWP has been good on occasions but is not an effective winger. I would rather Skacel, Surman, Holmes or Dyer player out wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 11 December, 2008 Share Posted 11 December, 2008 Not at all. BWP has been good on occasions but is not an effective winger. I would rather Skacel, Surman, Holmes or Dyer player out wide. seeing as tho the former 2 are much needed in current positions and the other 2 are injured and out on loan. Not much choice. Again though, i draw your attention to who is going to be in the box when this crosses are delivered?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicko Posted 12 December, 2008 Share Posted 12 December, 2008 Does anyone know what colours we're wearing tomorrow? I'm going & taking my girlfriend to her first ever Saints away match!! Luckily, she lives in Preston, so not far to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintrich Posted 12 December, 2008 Share Posted 12 December, 2008 Davis - gk James -rb Cork -cb Perry -cb Mills - lb Gillett -dm Schneiderlin - dm Surman - am/cm Skacel - lw Lallana - rw Euell - fw Subs: Forecast, Wotton, Pearce, BWP, MCG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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