SO16_Saint Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 Just thinking aloud that it looks (from the press reports) that KL is asset stripping and getting her money back. Shaw - 27M Lallana - 15M Lambert - 9M That's 51M right there. But, if that's the case and she is looking to cut and run, would she get more with a full strength squad versus a weaker squad having kept the transfer fees. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 SFC on paper would still have a lot going for it if we sold out star players and brought in 50M. We have a PL place, future years TV money (or parachute payments), a decent ground, decent training facilities, a reputation for youth players and the Academy. I personally think her people have done the math, and have decided if they wrap things up quickly before it looks like relegation beckons, they can get more by asset-stripping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peacey Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 Could it be she wants her money back before selling the club and making a little profit to? Just a thought? I am convinced she is not intrested in southampto fc. Hence the deals you have stated above? Could a certain Mr Cortese be waiting in the wings to buy back the club with a new owner? Other than this i dont have any other way off understanding what the f*ck her and the board are up to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 Krueger says she has been fantastic since he joined and is as committed as her father. But he also said they would publically release the shortlist of Managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 29 May, 2014 Author Share Posted 29 May, 2014 I agree. I never though I would ever say this, but I now believe that KL is not in this for the long game. I'm normally quite an optimist but things are looking bleak Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peacey Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 Krueger says she has been fantastic since he joined and is as committed as her father. But he also said they would publically release the shortlist of Managers. Take Krueger with a big pinch of salt. He is her yes man i sadly feel. I feel we are being buttered up. I mean after a report from sky this morning, we were surposed to not have to sell anyone......yet a mere 8 hours later Lambert is off back home!! I dont have a good taste in m mouth at all about this.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 She is in it for the long term . Sometimes I wonder why you guys have to find someone to blame every day . Don't blame the board . Blame football as a whole . Blame cortesse blame MP They are the destabilising elements not the board . If they left who would take the club on Micky falky and co ? Keep the faith and stop lashing out at the innocents . No offence intended by the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 She is in it for the long term . Sometimes I wonder why you guys have to find someone to blame every day . Don't blame the board . Blame football as a whole . Blame cortesse blame MP They are the destabilising elements not the board . If they left who would take the club on Micky falky and co ? Keep the faith and stop lashing out at the innocents . No offence intended by the way Wow, this is all Cortese's fault. He gives us 5 memorable years and its all his fault. Outstanding........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 (edited) Wow, this is all Cortese's fault. He gives us 5 memorable years and its all his fault. Spending Kat's money. Why on Earth would she hold a fire sale now, if she's been happy to support NC's ambition for more than 3 years ? Surely if she was looking to bail out, Saints would be worth more with all of our best players still in the squad ? Edited 29 May, 2014 by badgerx16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 Spending Kat's money. So ? I dont mind her withdrawing her support because football is not her thing, but she could sell us in a condition where me might actually remain competitive with chance of survival at this level. She would still make a fair wodge of profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 So ? I dont mind her withdrawing her support because football is not her thing, but she could sell us in a condition where me might actually remain competitive with chance of survival at this level. She would still make a fair wodge of profit. See the edit I was making as you posted this - something we agree on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 She is in it for the long term . Source? Or evidence please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 I doubt she would be appointing a gold medal winning Olympian coach to do the job of an accountant. In response to the OP though, frankly as much as she sees fit, it's her club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 Ralph is a snake-oil salesmen greasing us up for a bloody good rogering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 You realise that when her father passed away, he was a BILLIONAIRE - TWICE OVER!!. Do you really think that asset stripping for a mere £50m is worth the time, effort and grief, when it is likely she will earn probably at least this amount every year in interest alone - not counting her income from the multitude of other businesses she now [co]-owns!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 Remember that the player sale/bid stuff in the press remains as speculation. Nothing has actually happened, except MP leaving and RK saying KL is still committed and we've got interest from class managers. So let's chill, watch it unfold and shout about the **** stuff when/if it ACTUALLY HAPPENS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 Ralph is a snake-oil salesmen greasing us up for a bloody good rogering. As a seller of oil I resent that comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 29 May, 2014 Share Posted 29 May, 2014 As a seller of oil I resent that comparison. Haha brilliant. You have to laugh in moments like these or you'd despair. Ralphy, Ralphy, Ralphy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killers Knee Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 You realise that when her father passed away, he was a BILLIONAIRE - TWICE OVER!!. Do you really think that asset stripping for a mere £50m is worth the time, effort and grief, when it is likely she will earn probably at least this amount every year in interest alone - not counting her income from the multitude of other businesses she now [co]-owns!!! This is a misconception. Mali International Group was valued in excess of £3bn. But after the untimely demise of Markus, the business group didn't do well at all, with mismanagement accusations rife. This resulted in mass redundancies and sadly the companies are no more. We are not as wealthy as we once were and some would like to believe. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zurichsaint Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 This is a misconception. Mali International Group was valued in excess of £3bn. I've seen this quoted a couple of times, but have never managed to verify it. Where did you get there figure from? For what it's worth, I think you're probably right. It is her money, and I don't think we've got a right as fans to demand she spends it to keep us happy. If we can run to finance ourselves in future, I'll be happy. Let's not panic about player sales until we know who actually goes, and who (and how much is spent) on replacements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killers Knee Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 I've seen this quoted a couple of times, but have never managed to verify it. Where did you get there figure from? IIRC Moneyhouse.ch, not paid my CHF70 to have a look how its doing these days. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 ]Spending Kat's money[/b]. Why on Earth would she hold a fire sale now' date=' if she's been happy to support NC's ambition for more than 3 years ? Surely if she was looking to bail out, Saints would be worth more with all of our best players still in the squad ?[/quote'] Wrong Spending her Fathers money Had Markus not passed away, it was HIS 5 year plan, not Katharinas The only good thing to say about her is that she "honoured" her late father's plan. Now that the 5 years is up, yes, it is now her money, of which SFC will see very little I would really like her to "Get out" now, because she does not possess one shred of her father's "love" of Saints And I wish Cortese would come back NOW, before the carcass has been stripped of all flesh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Just thinking aloud that it looks (from the press reports) that KL is asset stripping and getting her money back. Shaw - 27M Lallana - 15M Lambert - 9M That's 51M right there. But, if that's the case and she is looking to cut and run, would she get more with a full strength squad versus a weaker squad having kept the transfer fees. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk As far as I know at the time of this post we haven't sold one player. The press were due to link our players away as it is what they do....not sure how you come to this conclusion. I will reserve judgement when this window is shut as it will give a better indication of where our board wants us to be. Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Too be perfectly honest if I owned this club I'd look purely on ROI opportunities to drive my actions: 1. Either raise profile by getting into Europe = increased commercial turnover and profit + more sky dates 2. Or would I look to sell a couple of players every year for guaranteed easy 30m profit ? Which is the one you can control ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai27 Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 I think the bottom line is that the club is a business and she's business woman. The clubs stock is higher than ever and it's time to cash in and make a profit. It's only good business. I really don't want to believe that, but even if the above turns out to be untrue then Kruger and Reed are going to look like right plonkers if Lambert, Lallana and Shaw go. As a club we will appear very weak, a polar opposite to the Cortese years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayrivers Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 I think the bottom line is that the club is a business and she's business woman. The clubs stock is higher than ever and it's time to cash in and make a profit. It's only good business. I really don't want to believe that, but even if the above turns out to be untrue then Kruger and Reed are going to look like right plonkers if Lambert, Lallana and Shaw go. As a club we will appear very weak, a polar opposite to the Cortese years... For me it depends what happens to the money - that will be the telling sign. If it's ploughed back in for new players then that's very different if it dissapears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai27 Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 For me it depends what happens to the money - that will be the telling sign. If it's ploughed back in for new players then that's very different if it dissapears. Agreed. The concerning part for me is that since KL took over, the board have been making noises about owing money and Cortese over spending. Nice cover stories when we end up reinvesting a token amount from player sales? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 Krueger says she has been fantastic since he joined and is as committed as her father. But he also said they would publically release the shortlist of Managers. But it's Krueger, has what he says any substantial value ? Really, depends if we sell Lambert tomorrow I guess. Then I'd suspect he'll argue that the transfer won't take effect until the 1st July and thus not before the WC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 30 May, 2014 Share Posted 30 May, 2014 For me it depends what happens to the money - that will be the telling sign. If it's ploughed back in for new players then that's very different if it dissapears. What like the 100 million or so of this year's revenues, what's happening to that? This lady is supposed (and supposed is all that it ever has been) to be a multi billionaire. Her aunts, uncles and cousins may well be but that's no proof whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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