Delmary Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 http://www.londonstockexchange.com/en-gb/pricesnews/prices/system/detailedprices.htm?sym=GB0007922114GBGBXAIMI0792211SOO Down today by 10.4% to 21.50p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowsaintsfan Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 on the news Woopert has quit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 on the news Woopert has quit If only it was true. [-o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chap in the Chapel Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 on the news Woopert has quit I think that this news would cause a steep climb in the share price... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 I think that this news would cause a steep climb in the share price... Would probably spark rumours of another takeover! Or snowflakes in hell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 http://www.londonstockexchange.com/en-gb/pricesnews/prices/system/detailedprices.htm?sym=GB0007922114GBGBXAIMI0792211SOO Down today by 10.4% to 21.50p Brilliant news. My heart bleeds for Lowe and his cronies. Hopefully this is a sign the PLC is going down the pan and Lowe, Wilde and the rest of them are joining the 1p club. Ha Ha Ha such a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 Has anybody got some stat's about other CCC or even Prem clubs share prices for comparison? I wonder if it's just SLH's share price or football clubs across the board that have dropped today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 http://www.londonstockexchange.com/en-gb/pricesnews/prices/system/detailedprices.htm?sym=GB0007922114GBGBXAIMI0792211SOO Down today by 10.4% to 21.50p But no-one actually bought or sold any so it's totally academic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 But no-one actually bought or sold any so it's totally academic. Its not totally academic. It means the club is "valued" 10% less today than it was yesterday. Thats quite significant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 Its not totally academic. It means the club is "valued" 10% less today than it was yesterday. Thats quite significant. No it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exit2 Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 so on todays price, what Wilde and Crouch paid for their shares could have brought about 50% of the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 so on todays price, what Wilde and Crouch paid for their shares could have brought about 50% of the club Provided that some-one was willing to sell them at that price; Share prices change greatly,the intrinsic value of the company is what really counts. Try to find some-one to sell you 2 million shares at 21p, you'll see what I mean; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 Provided that some-one was willing to sell them at that price; Share prices change greatly,the intrinsic value of the company is what really counts. Try to find some-one to sell you 2 million shares at 21p, you'll see what I mean; and that just shows why the plc status is a farce, we have 60% plus of the shares in the hands of 10 people. i am still struggling to understand the benefits to the FOOTBALL club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 If we compare this with the FTSE AIM All Share index rebased over the past 6 months they should be about 12.5p. So the movement is nothing much to write home about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 If this makes it easier for someone to buy the Club........ WOOOPIIIEEEE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 If this makes it easier for someone to buy the Club........ WOOOPIIIEEEE! IN Theory problem is none of the b**tards will sell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 in theory problem is none of the b**tards will sell booooooooo!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 IN Theory problem is none of the b**tards will sell That's the sad thing. Those who have spent large amounts of money on shares wont want to sell up at a big loss. And those who were gifted their shares wont want to sell up at less than they could have gotten previously, or less than they could potentially get in the event of a full-takeover. It would make it cheaper for anybody who is serious about taking over the club 100%, but they would still end up paying above and beyond the current share price. It's times like this that the likes of Fulthorpe show their true colours. If, as we have been lead to believe by posts on this forum, the money is in place and Fulthorpe is ready to move, then now is the ideal and cheapest time to do it. But sadly I think we all know how serious that rumoured takeover is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 That's the sad thing. Those who have spent large amounts of money on shares wont want to sell up at a big loss. And those who were gifted their shares wont want to sell up at less than they could have gotten previously, or less than they could potentially get in the event of a full-takeover. It would make it cheaper for anybody who is serious about taking over the club 100%, but they would still end up paying above and beyond the current share price. It's times like this that the likes of Fulthorpe show their true colours. If, as we have been lead to believe by posts on this forum, the money is in place and Fulthorpe is ready to move, then now is the ideal and cheapest time to do it. But sadly I think we all know how serious that rumoured takeover is. I agree Rob. Time for Fulthorpe to cometh or for us to tell the world at every opportunity that the club is for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 That's the sad thing. Those who have spent large amounts of money on shares wont want to sell up at a big loss. And those who were gifted their shares wont want to sell up at less than they could have gotten previously, or less than they could potentially get in the event of a full-takeover. It would make it cheaper for anybody who is serious about taking over the club 100%, but they would still end up paying above and beyond the current share price. It's times like this that the likes of Fulthorpe show their true colours. If, as we have been lead to believe by posts on this forum, the money is in place and Fulthorpe is ready to move, then now is the ideal and cheapest time to do it. But sadly I think we all know how serious that rumoured takeover is. Problem is that the club is only a small part of Fulthorpe's investors vision for investment. There are many parts that have to come together and that takes time, months not weeks. That is why Fulthorpe/Cousins saying to close friends and others that it will happen any day meets with cynicism and in some cases disbelief. For me, and a few I know, it is cloud cuckoo land but we still live in hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliemiller Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 Problem is that the club is only a small part of Fulthorpe's investors vision for investment. There are many parts that have to come together and that takes time, months not weeks. That is why Fulthorpe/Cousins saying to close friends and others that it will happen any day meets with cynicism and in some cases disbelief. For me, and a few I know, it is cloud cuckoo land but we still live in hope. Any reduction in share value is good as is waters down share price expectations . percieved value of shares bear no relevance to the AIM price they never have and never will do but its a negotiation aid at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amesbury Saint Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 I dont have the money but if I offered to buy 100,000 shares at 10p each would there be any sellers? My point being, given the level of debt and the lack of assets, are the shares really worth anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 29 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 29 December, 2008 If we compare this with the FTSE AIM All Share index rebased over the past 6 months they should be about 12.5p. So the movement is nothing much to write home about.The share price is a barometer of investor/market confidence in a company. A drop of over 10% in a single day's trading is significant for SLH, especially when you consider its stock is less prone to typical market volatility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 I think that this news would cause a steep climb in the share price... And a blackout on our super dooper server! If only! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 29 December, 2008 Share Posted 29 December, 2008 Provided that some-one was willing to sell them at that price; Share prices change greatly,the intrinsic value of the company is what really counts. Try to find some-one to sell you 2 million shares at 21p, you'll see what I mean; And there's the rub. I bet some eedjit would be willing to sell not only his but also his friends shares at 60p! And there's the even bigger rub, there's no takers at 60p, let alone 21p! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 A 100,000 share trade at 18.5p this morning.... Oo-er missus.... Fulthorpe starting to make a move....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 how much does that mean the person paid about 18k? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paris Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 Yes.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 No it isn't. Oh yes it is [the pantomime season has started already has it Windows?] The valuation of a company can be very significant, in terms of borrowing ability and so on. A 10% drop in value would be considered very significant in the financial markets for most companies. It may not be so significant for SLH plc, but nevertheless do not dismiss it so lightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 A 100,000 share trade at 18.5p this morning.... Oo-er missus.... Fulthorpe starting to make a move....? Wouldnt the price be going up if that were the case ??? More likely Wilde has started dumping his shares due to other financial problems he is encountering... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 A 100,000 share trade at 18.5p this morning.... Oo-er missus.... Fulthorpe starting to make a move....? I'd say a rather good speculation bet. Saints in relegation zone with appalling leadership and a potential takeover on the cards... but I'd wait a week until Utd have put us out of the cup personally and pick some up for 10p. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 I'd say a rather good speculation bet. Saints in relegation zone with appalling leadership and a potential takeover on the cards... but I'd wait a week until Utd have put us out of the cup personally and pick some up for 10p. As relegation becomes a reality expect the price to plummet further. I know it is obvious but there it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 As relegation becomes a reality expect the price to plummet further. I know it is obvious but there it is. Good point. When do you 'bet'? Does administration wipe you out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 Good point. When do you 'bet'? Does administration wipe you out? After the Cup game. I think a lot will happen then. We will sell, sell sell. Preparing to go down but staving off admin. JP will survive but i think Glenn Hoddle will be employed as we start in Div 1 with a very young team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 After the Cup game. I think a lot will happen then. We will sell, sell sell. Preparing to go down but staving off admin. JP will survive but i think Glenn Hoddle will be employed as we start in Div 1 with a very young team. :yawinkle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 After the Cup game. I think a lot will happen then. We will sell, sell sell. Preparing to go down but staving off admin. JP will survive but i think Glenn Hoddle will be employed as we start in Div 1 with a very young team. :yawinkle: Benjii, no amount of your seductive winking will make him change the record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 After the Cup game. I think a lot will happen then. We will sell, sell sell. Preparing to go down but staving off admin. JP will survive but i think Glenn Hoddle will be employed as we start in Div 1 with a very young team. Bringing Hoddle in is not the answer. All his appointment will do is divide the fans even further. The majority will be looking for examples of him failing in order to prove what a daft appointment Lowe has made again. Worse choice of manager - no matter how much better than JP he may be. Also - it is a myth that Hoddle and Lowe get on. They don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 Bringing Hoddle in is not the answer. All his appointment will do is divide the fans even further. The majority will be looking for examples of him failing in order to prove what a daft appointment Lowe has made again. Worse choice of manager - no matter how much better than JP he may be. Also - it is a myth that Hoddle and Lowe get on. They don't. Also irrelevant. My old boss hates me but he knows I did the job he wanted, and in return I pretty much hated him too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 Also irrelevant. My old boss hates me but he knows I did the job he wanted, and in return I pretty much hated him too. LOL. I think my point about division was the main one though. We all like you working for your boss and support him fully for paying you enough to be a member of this wonderful site. We tolerated your old boss as he didnt run away and desert the firm you loved! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 LOL. I think my point about division was the main one though. We all like you working for your boss and support him fully for paying you enough to be a member of this wonderful site. We tolerated your old boss as he didnt run away and desert the firm you loved! No, no, you have me all wrong. I don't have a boss now. I was going back 12 years when mentioning my old boss, who I hated and who hated me. To be honest, it was more mild dislike, but the point I was making is that in business they don't have to be bum chums so I thought your comment about them "getting on" was irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 No, no, you have me all wrong. I don't have a boss now. I was going back 12 years when mentioning my old boss, who I hated and who hated me. To be honest, it was more mild dislike, but the point I was making is that in business they don't have to be bum chums so I thought your comment about them "getting on" was irrelevant. It was irrelevant, though it helps - when your chairman is actually part of the football team set up, being pally does rather help. Lowe is part of the footballing team as well as plc chairman remember... he IS to all intents and purposes Director of Football. Anyway. That could change if Hoddle was appointed. I grant you. The one we love to hate - Redkrapp - said he left Saints as it was a Club that no one talked to anyone, unlike Pompey which was a friendly environment to work in - an all round team. Lowe called Harry, 'Redknapp'. He has never been a team player was our Rupert. He has never run a sporting club as it should be - a content team working as a team from top to bottom - united. Until that day, we shall continue to fall. But whether Lowe is good and deserves his 95% vote from shareholders for his stirling efforts behind the scenes - we must always remember that those who divide bring failure. Harmony top to bottom produces better results. No Lowe, No Hoddle and you have a chance at unity. No plc and a boardroom working to one (ambitious) man and you have even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WealdSaint Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 As soon as a reasonable number of shares come onto the open market we will see what the "true" value of saints shares are. I wonder who unloaded 100,000?...........and who bought them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 As soon as a reasonable number of shares come onto the open market we will see what the "true" value of saints shares are. I wonder who unloaded 100,000?...........and who bought them Is 100,000 alot in the scheme of things? I think its probably peanuts isnt it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WealdSaint Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 Is 100,000 alot in the scheme of things? I think its probably peanuts isnt it? Yes I agree.......so the fact that such a small % pushed the price down so much is interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 0.35%. Not going to change balance of power, but reasonably significant when your consider the size of the shareholdings of the likes of Askham, Lowe, Cowen, Richards and Withers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 Is 100,000 alot in the scheme of things? I think its probably peanuts isnt it? Depends what one compares the 100,000 against. 100,000 Vs total issued shares = peanuts 100,000 Vs the last time a round 6 figure trade went through = potentially significant. A six figure single trade of SLH shares is a pretty rare occurrence....that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CabbageFace Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 It must be a takeover or something, im so excited, anyone got any sauces? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 i saw a posh car in town today, number plate 4LL3N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 Benjii, no amount of your seductive winking will make him change the record. I like him. He's entertaining. Also, I would be pretty happy if, having got relegated, we managed to recruit Glenn Hoddle. Better than what we've got now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 i saw a posh car in town today, number plate 4LL3N Hoddle?:prayer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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