LuckyNumber7 Posted October 31 Posted October 31 4 hours ago, JohnnyShearer2.0 said: Which countries would you like to cap? All of them. Get the numbers down.
badgerx16 Posted October 31 Posted October 31 (edited) Trump's nominee for Surgron General does not have a medical licence. She is sceptical of conventional medicine and instead promotes "wellness" products. Edited October 31 by badgerx16 1
JohnnyShearer2.0 Posted October 31 Posted October 31 2 hours ago, LuckyNumber7 said: All of them. Get the numbers down. Fair enough that is one avenue but illegal immigration still an issue. Big part of it, in my opinion is that the UK is seen as the softest / easiest place to settle. 1
Farmer Saint Posted October 31 Posted October 31 2 hours ago, LuckyNumber7 said: All of them. Get the numbers down. Doesn't stop illegal immigrants though does it? Instead of applying for asylum they'll just disappear - tbh that's worse than what's happening now.
Sir Ralph Posted November 2 Posted November 2 (edited) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cev18jy21w7o Edited November 2 by Sir Ralph
badgerx16 Posted November 2 Posted November 2 58 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cev18jy21w7o Another step on the road to the Nobel Peace Prize.
Sir Ralph Posted November 2 Posted November 2 Just now, badgerx16 said: Another step on the road to the Nobel Peace Prize. Preventing more unnecessary deaths, unless that’s a reason to be criticised nowadays 1
badgerx16 Posted November 2 Posted November 2 4 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said: Preventing more unnecessary deaths, unless that’s a reason to be criticised nowadays Do you think the IS supporting militants are going to be cowed ?
Sir Ralph Posted November 2 Posted November 2 (edited) 5 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: Do you think the IS supporting militants are going to be cowed ? They will if the US goes into Nigeria and exterminates them and if they don’t problem solved anyway. This is about putting pressure on the Nigerian government to use its military to stop this genocide, rather than standing by. US intervention will be a last resort but after Iran people know Trump will back up his statements Edited November 2 by Sir Ralph 1
Farmer Saint Posted November 2 Posted November 2 At least Nigeria doesn't have lots of oil so you can't accuse him of trying to exploit that. 1
Gloucester Saint Posted November 2 Posted November 2 On 31/10/2025 at 08:08, Farmer Saint said: Well, we know you didn't meet them in Thailand, that's for sure. What I find very odd is you met 7 SA's in a year, and each one you got onto them leaving for fear of their lives. I don't even know how you got to that point in conversation, considering you live in Thailand and they would most likely be there on holiday. Do you ask all holiday goers whether they were being persecuted in their own countries? Is that your schtick? Nic seems to meet as many different people in Thailand - if it is Thailand - as Soggy meets in Romney Marsh.
Sir Ralph Posted November 2 Posted November 2 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: At least Nigeria doesn't have lots of oil so you can't accuse him of trying to exploit that. Nothing to do with that. Last time I checked stopping genocide was a good thing but maybe it is dependent on who is dying?! Try again. Edited November 2 by Sir Ralph 2
Farmer Saint Posted November 2 Posted November 2 3 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said: Nothing to do with that. Try again Venezuela also doesn't, thank God. 2
Gloucester Saint Posted November 2 Posted November 2 25 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: Another step on the road to the Nobel Peace Prize. ‘America First’ and no more getting involved needlessly in overseas wars. Ukraine - invaded by Russia, US’s historic enemy and threat to entire NATO alliance - ‘why did Biden help them?’. Nigeria - let’s carpet bomb some Muslims thousands of miles away. 2
Farmer Saint Posted November 2 Posted November 2 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said: Nothing to do with that. Last time I checked stopping genocide was a good thing but maybe it is dependent on who is dying?! Try again. What, like in Ukraine? Or is that because he's already got his rare earth's deal? Edited November 2 by Farmer Saint 1
Sir Ralph Posted November 2 Posted November 2 The responses to this are quite amazing and flabbergasting. You lot think this genocide should continue unchecked I presume then?
Sir Ralph Posted November 2 Posted November 2 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: What, like in Ukraine? Or is that because he's already got his rare earth's deal? Ukraine isn’t genocide based on religious belief. They have an army and it’s a war. Completely different and not comparable. Basic stuff Edited November 2 by Sir Ralph
hypochondriac Posted November 2 Posted November 2 Trump's entire foreign policy is Completely incoherent and just changes based on whatever he is thinking day to day. That means that some days he will do some fantastic things and other times he will do bad things with no real consistency. 2
Farmer Saint Posted November 2 Posted November 2 4 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said: Ukraine isn’t genocide based on religious belief. They have an army and it’s a war. Completely different and not comparable. Basic stuff Ok, looking forward to him going into Sudan as well then. 1
Farmer Saint Posted November 2 Posted November 2 6 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Trump's entire foreign policy is Completely incoherent and just changes based on whatever he is thinking day to day. That means that some days he will do some fantastic things and other times he will do bad things with no real consistency. It's not just his foreign policy though is it? 😂 1
hypochondriac Posted November 2 Posted November 2 Just now, Farmer Saint said: It's not just his foreign policy though is it? 😂 Correct. Trump is often influenced by the last segment he saw on fox news. 3
Farmer Saint Posted November 2 Posted November 2 He did stop Gaza genocide TBF, and there is no evidence prior or since that he'd gain anything from that...oh, wait.
hypochondriac Posted November 2 Posted November 2 4 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: Ok, looking forward to him going into Sudan as well then. Isn't that largely a Muslim on muslim thing ?
whelk Posted November 2 Posted November 2 26 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said: Nic seems to meet as many different people in Thailand - if it is Thailand - as Soggy meets in Romney Marsh. I’ve never met seven South Africans man 1
Farmer Saint Posted November 2 Posted November 2 Just now, hypochondriac said: Isn't that largely a Muslim on muslim thing ? Yeah, but it's genocide and Sir Ralph is so absolutely appalled by it he's virtue signalling all over the place - so I assume unless Trump goes in there he'll stop supporting him.
Sir Ralph Posted November 2 Posted November 2 6 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: Ok, looking forward to him going into Sudan as well then. Just admit it’s a good thing rather than finding an excuse to criticise
Farmer Saint Posted November 2 Posted November 2 2 minutes ago, whelk said: I’ve never met seven South Africans man Probably because they've all been persecuted mate 👍
Farmer Saint Posted November 2 Posted November 2 1 minute ago, Sir Ralph said: Just admit it’s a good thing rather than finding an excuse to criticise I don't need an excuse to criticise Trump - it's like arguing with you - fish in a barrel. 1
badgerx16 Posted November 2 Posted November 2 8 minutes ago, whelk said: I’ve never met seven South Africans man If you did, they would not be nice. 1
badgerx16 Posted November 2 Posted November 2 20 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said: Ukraine isn’t genocide based on religious belief. No it isn't, it's genocide based on racial theory : Russians are superior, Ukrainians are untermensch. 2
badgerx16 Posted November 2 Posted November 2 23 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said: Ukraine isn’t genocide based on religious belief. They have an army and it’s a war. Completely different and not comparable. Basic stuff So does Nigeria, and it is shooting and bombing people - ergo, also a war. 1
hypochondriac Posted November 2 Posted November 2 8 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: No it isn't, it's genocide based on racial theory : Russians are superior, Ukrainians are untermensch. Isn't it that they don't believe the Ukrainian nationality exists? It's more that he thinks people who call themselves Ukrainian are just Russian.
badgerx16 Posted November 2 Posted November 2 12 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Isn't it that they don't believe the Ukrainian nationality exists? It's more that he thinks people who call themselves Ukrainian are just Russian. Perhaps, but attempting to eradicate a people's language, culture, and history is genocide. Kidnapping their children and brain washing them is genocide. Russia's invasion of Ukraine is genocidal. 1
Gloucester Saint Posted November 2 Posted November 2 42 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: If you did, they would not be nice.
egg Posted November 2 Posted November 2 1 hour ago, Sir Ralph said: Preventing more unnecessary deaths, unless that’s a reason to be criticised nowadays Please show me where US meddling in other countries internal affairs hasn't ended in unnecessary deaths. Nigeria is not a US issue. Like pretty much every other country they've interfered with.
hypochondriac Posted November 2 Posted November 2 24 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: Perhaps, but attempting to eradicate a people's language, culture, and history is genocide. Kidnapping their children and brain washing them is genocide. Russia's invasion of Ukraine is genocidal. Ok I was just clarifying that I don't think he believes that Russians are superior to Ukrainians, he just believes that Ukrainians are Russians.
badgerx16 Posted November 2 Posted November 2 10 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Ok I was just clarifying that I don't think he believes that Russians are superior to Ukrainians, he just believes that Ukrainians are Russians. Russian propaganda declares that Ukrainian is an inferior dialect of Russian that is spoken by rural peasants.
badgerx16 Posted November 2 Posted November 2 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sir Ralph said: Nothing to do with that. Last time I checked stopping genocide was a good thing but maybe it is dependent on who is dying?! Try again. Yet again, he hasn't stopped the genocide in Ukraine, in fact his tendency and instinct has been to side with the agressor in terms of seeking a "solution". He likes a 'strong' leader. Edited November 2 by badgerx16
AlexLaw76 Posted November 2 Posted November 2 1 hour ago, badgerx16 said: Yet again, he hasn't stopped the genocide in Ukraine, in fact his tendency and instinct has been to side with the agressor in terms of seeking a "solution". He likes a 'strong' leader. Maybe Europe should stop the genocide in…. Europe?
badgerx16 Posted November 2 Posted November 2 34 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Maybe Europe should stop the genocide in…. Europe? Following that logic Africa should be stopping the "genocide" in Africa. Just so you are clear, this has been a discussion specifically on Donald Trump's foreign interventions, and the sometimes erratic things he says and does.
AlexLaw76 Posted November 2 Posted November 2 (edited) 5 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: Following that logic Africa should be stopping the "genocide" in Africa. Just so you are clear, this has been a discussion specifically on Donald Trump's foreign interventions, and the sometimes erratic things he says and does. When some of the world richest nations out-source their defence to a country thousands of miles away, bit rich to complain when the outcomes are not specifically as we would want. What are Europe doing to stop the genocide in Nigeria? What is the UK doing given our historical ties? Edited November 2 by AlexLaw76
Sir Ralph Posted November 2 Posted November 2 (edited) 2 hours ago, egg said: Please show me where US meddling in other countries internal affairs hasn't ended in unnecessary deaths. Nigeria is not a US issue. Like pretty much every other country they've interfered with. So he should have stayed out of the Gaza issue then and shouldn’t have helped achieve the ceasefire? Your point is a crude on though because if an intervention inevitably results in some deaths but stops genocide overall it’s a good thing. You are comparing this to Iraq and Afghanistan which were invaded for completely different reasons. Again I’m very surprised that people think stopping genocide is a bad idea. Very weird Edited November 2 by Sir Ralph
Holmes_and_Watson Posted November 2 Posted November 2 It's ridiculous that peace and deal loving Donald has to spend so much of his second term, protecting core American values and allies around a world that's allowed itself to get into such a state. He should get a third term to focus on the more business and isolationist things he would rather have been doing, had he not had to save us from ourselves. Sure, the nobel peace prize will be a great personal award. But it's also a reminder of all the great things he could have been involved in instead. 1
Farmer Saint Posted November 2 Posted November 2 23 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said: So he should have stayed out of the Gaza issue then and shouldn’t have helped achieve the ceasefire? Your point is a crude on though because if an intervention inevitably results in some deaths but stops genocide overall it’s a good thing. You are comparing this to Iraq and Afghanistan which were invaded for completely different reasons. Again I’m very surprised that people think stopping genocide is a bad idea. Very weird Who's argued that stopping genocide is a bad idea? It's ok, I'll wait.
badgerx16 Posted November 2 Posted November 2 25 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said: So he should have stayed out of the Gaza issue then and shouldn’t have helped achieve the ceasefire? The US has been the main enabler of Israel's policies towards it's neighbours, the main reason that Israel has known it's occupation of the West Bank isn't going to be seriously challenged, and thereby indirectly a causative factor in the October attack.
badgerx16 Posted November 2 Posted November 2 6 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: Who's argued that stopping genocide is a bad idea? It's ok, I'll wait. Criticism of Trump = support of genocide, apparently.
Sir Ralph Posted November 2 Posted November 2 1 minute ago, Farmer Saint said: Who's argued that stopping genocide is a bad idea? It's ok, I'll wait. A number of you seem to think that Trump shouldn’t be doing this. I asked you a couple of times and you dodged the question. Either Trump stopping this genocide is a good or bad thing.
Sir Ralph Posted November 2 Posted November 2 (edited) 7 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: Criticism of Trump = support of genocide, apparently. Ok is stopping this genocide a good or bad action by Trump? What you said is obviously not what I’m saying. You can criticise him for some actions but if he does a good thing dont then ignore that good thing by harping on about bad things you think he has done which aren’t related. Edited November 2 by Sir Ralph
Sir Ralph Posted November 2 Posted November 2 (edited) 11 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: The US has been the main enabler of Israel's policies towards it's neighbours, the main reason that Israel has known it's occupation of the West Bank isn't going to be seriously challenged, and thereby indirectly a causative factor in the October attack. I agree I didn’t say they shouldn’t get involved in facilitating a ceasefire. The US is a Christian country and he is protecting Christians in Nigeria so there is a cultural link. Not one you may consider important but one key US politicians believe is Edited November 2 by Sir Ralph
Farmer Saint Posted November 2 Posted November 2 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said: A number of you seem to think that Trump shouldn’t be doing this. I asked you a couple of times and you dodged the question. Either Trump stopping this genocide is a good or bad thing. Oh, stopping any genocide is a good thing. Choosing the genocides you decide to stop based on what you can exploit, is a bad thing. Everything seems to be black and white to you... Edited November 2 by Farmer Saint
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