Saint_clark Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Just me, or was he f*cking awful today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Just me, or was he f*cking awful today? It may be just you. I thought that he was no worse than most of the others and actually made one or two "telling" tackles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaford Saint Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 He was not as good as I thought he would be, he made lots of bad passes but also some good tackling.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Crap. Out of position all the time and clueless. Very very poor IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 He was not as good as I thought he would be, he made lots of bad passes but also some good tackling.. This is what happens when your director of football (Lowe) buys kids based on a video of a freekick in a reserves match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 not as good as I hoped probably a little better at going forward than defending, and a slightly better passer than tackler a lot of room for improvement - but hopefully with a few games under his belt he will not as bad a James at right back though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 He was not as good as I thought he would be, he made lots of bad passes but also some good tackling.. What made you think that he would be good? He is a 19 year old Everton third choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Everton season ticket holding friend of mine said he was very much 4th choice & the new influx of players were likely to put him even further down the pecking order. A sinking team is not the best place to learn your trade in fairness, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 not as good as I hoped probably a little better at going forward than defending, and a slightly better passer than tackler a lot of room for improvement - but hopefully with a few games under his belt he will not as bad a James at right back though Agree with that too. James at RB has been a problem for several matches now. Very poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Just me, or was he f*cking awful today? Based on reports from last week I expected him to be better - having said that he made one vital tackle towards the end of the first half and his confidence picked up a little from there. I don't think that I want to judge the lad on only his second appearance for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Agree with that too. James at RB has been a problem for several matches now. Very poor. James is OK going forward but I felt that his defensive performance was woeful today. He is a midfielder - not a right back. He is too easily done by a tricky winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxosponge Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 his defensive performance was woeful today. And every other tean knows it and targets the poor kid. We need a proper right back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 He was poor at the start of the game but I thought once he stopped falling over he came into it more and played a lot better. I thought he dealt with the 3 man defence situation much better than James did. P.S. I thought it was a disgrace that he had to carry the can for the post match interviews. The guy's been here 2 weeks and he must be thinking what the fnck has he let himself in for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaford Saint Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 What made you think that he would be good? He is a 19 year old Everton third choice. Everton's 3rd choice must have something about him, pace and some skill. I can't see a duffer being at any Prem club at the age of 19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 James is OK going forward but I felt that his defensive performance was woeful today. He is a midfielder - not a right back. He is too easily done by a tricky winger. Good point. He does have potential - but everytime I have seen him at RB he has been attacked and made a fool of to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Everton's 3rd choice must have something about him, pace and some skill. I can't see a duffer being at any Prem club at the age of 19. O.K. but does that mean that because he is 3rd/4th choice for Everton, he is going to set the world alight in the CCC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfredKo Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Keep him as the starting left back, we desparately need Skacel playing as left wing as Saganowski and him are the only two in our whole club that can shoot properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccerMom Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Good point. He does have potential - but everytime I have seen him at RB he has been attacked and made a fool of to be honest. He did have a mare today, but give him his dues - he is far more reliable than most at crosses into the box. Put in a beaut about two-thirds through the first half. Shame no one could get on the other end of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 I didn't think he started off too well but came into the game as it went on. Not a bad debut and a tad harsh to criticise him after only his 2nd performance. I think he'll improve with games anyway. Lets give the lad a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
explorer saint Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Yep thought he was poor but I know James was poor as well to start with. Lloyd James today one of the few players to show some passion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Thought he was ok. Nothing special but to be fair, it will take him some time to integrate. Certainly I didn't think he was useless. What was funny though - and I might be totally wrong on this - but I am sure that when the team was read out, on the screens he was pictured wearing his Everton shirt. It was certainly blue, and funnily enough the bloke who moves the pictures on very quickly realised the mistake and moved to the next picture!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 What made you think that he would be good? He is a 19 year old Everton third choice. Seriously guys. Can we attempt to get some sense of perspective here? For the left back position this season Everton have used Leighton Baines, Joleon Lescott and Nuno Valente. Please just think about that for a moment. And if you don't know who these players are...well just accept from me that they are the sort of players that will keep a youth player out of the team. David Moyes knows very well how to arrange a good defence. And anyone of those players would not even consider walking into the shower of sh:t that is Southampton Football Club at the moment. So let's please stop panning the player for being a third or fourth choice (depending on how much of a f::cking clue you have) player for Everton as it has very little bearing on us, as once again we are a million miles away from Everton at this precise minute. We are not in the Premier League. Thus we will not attract Premier League standard players. Get real. Aside from that i'll drive home a point which has been made on here countless times. Hounding a player after one (debatably) sh:t performance is so utterly moronic it's painful... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Seriously guys. Can we attempt to get some sense of perspective here? For the left back position this season Everton have used Leighton Baines, Joleon Lescott and Nuno Valente. Please just think about that for a moment. And if you don't know who these players are...well just accept from me that they are the sort of players that will keep a youth player out of the team. David Moyes knows very well how to arrange a good defence. And anyone of those players would not even consider walking into the shower of sh:t that is Southampton Football Club at the moment. So let's please stop panning the player for being a third or fourth choice (depending on how much of a f::cking clue you have) player for Everton as it has very little bearing on us, as once again we are a million miles away from Everton at this precise minute. We are not in the Premier League. Thus we will not attract Premier League standard players. Get real. Aside from that i'll drive home a point which has been made on here countless times. Hounding a player after one (debatably) sh:t performance is so utterly moronic it's painful... I agree, anyone who signs for us at present deserves a medal! He didn't have a great game today but he was surrounded by so much crap it's hard to judge the lad. If some of the other players are our "future", God help us. Most of them bottle 50/50s against not the biggest CCC side physically and can't trap a ball. I and 95% of fans, for this season, hold Wilde and Lowe responsible for these daft appointments, reckless gambles that have us any pride and dignity we had left. Time for Lowe, Wilde and JP to go on Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fareham saint phil Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 2 games, yep thats it lets run him out of town!!! Playing in a bad team is hardly the best place to be but thought he wasn't as bad as others out there yesterday including some established players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 18 January, 2009 Share Posted 18 January, 2009 Too early to judge. Having a proper left back is a positive and his positional sense was OK (although thought he ventured too far forward at times). Was beaten a bit too easy towards the end of the game, but that probably had more to do with us having no shape following the tactical ineptitude of our manager (as well as perhaps lack of match fitness). OK, I'd have given him a 5/6 out of 10, and forgotten about the last 15 mins. And the fact that he was 3rd or 4th choice at Everton means nothing to me. As Jack Cork proved with his solid performances, despite being 12th choice for centre mid for Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 nto the greatest of home debuts IMO. He fell over twice, which on another day could have been crucial and his positional sense early on looks poor. He sorted that out but his lack of height is a massive concern. With Perry and James as starters in our back four what we could do with is some extra height to help Seijs. Molyneux looks about 5'8". I have to say at one point he ran down the left and found himself isolated as BWP was nowhere to be seen. He showed decent composure to stop and pick out a man inside. But that was pretty much the only good thing he did for me. Still its early doors, lets hope he settles in and becomes a quality signing. With Surman, Mills and Skacel did we really need another left back this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_O_Mac Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 2 games, yep thats it lets run him out of town!!! Playing in a bad team is hardly the best place to be but thought he wasn't as bad as others out there yesterday including some established players Hit the nail on the head.. Why judge the bloke now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanh Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 nto the greatest of home debuts IMO. He fell over twice, which on another day could have been crucial and his positional sense early on looks poor. He sorted that out but his lack of height is a massive concern. With Perry and James as starters in our back four what we could do with is some extra height to help Seijs. Molyneux looks about 5'8". I have to say at one point he ran down the left and found himself isolated as BWP was nowhere to be seen. He showed decent composure to stop and pick out a man inside. But that was pretty much the only good thing he did for me. Still its early doors, lets hope he settles in and becomes a quality signing. With Surman, Mills and Skacel did we really need another left back this season? Agreed. He didn't look great, a bit nervous perhaps, but he did look like he was playing in the right position and knew where he needed to be most of the time. Once he settled in he looked OK and coped with the move to 3 at the back quite well. Listening the Radio Hampshire on the way to the ground JP said that he thought 1 or 2 players would leave before the end of the month. I'm putting my money on Skacel being one of them (no inside knowledge, just my opinion) and that's why we've brought in LM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ron fan Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 I haven't seen him play so wouldn't be able to judge. However, it seems very odd to me that the management of the club, and many supporters too, seem to think that Everton's fourth choice right-back, who has never played first-team football, will automatically be good enough to play in the CCC. The year we were relegated, we reached the youth cup final. The majority of that team were effectively third or fourth choice first-team players (one or two, like Cranie, a bit higher up the pecking order). Several of that team have never made it at CCC level and probably never will. There must be a decent chance that Molyneux will unfortunately come into the same bracket. Of course, he may turn out to be real quality and an inspired signing, but given all the other largely terrible signings made under the current regime, I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Not impressive for sure, a typical Northern big boot, small brain job like Rooney, Gerrard. Ah Well! Total Football was always a fantasy anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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