SNSUN Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 It doesn't look to rosy at the moment, our home form is dire, and we haven't got a pot to pee in. I suppose there's an optimistic/pessimistic way to take things at the moment, but is it easier to admit we're doomed to lighten the burden we potentially suffer at the end of the season (or alternately survive and be amazed), or not admit defeat until it potentially happens? I'm caught in two minds. My colleagues are arses, and they make it difficult to be a Saints fan, but I stand up and take the banter, as they do when their respective teams arse up. If I accept relegation, even at this stage in the season, I can turn around in May, shrug my shoulders and say "Meh, I told you it would happen", thus making it more bearable. Alternately, I could be defiant, tell them we'll be safe, and hope with every wish in my body that we stage a minor miracle. Tis a hard life for all Saints fans at the moment. What do you reckon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 I would start preparing yourself for the inevitable drop to league one and likely administration. That way if it happens it will lessen the heart-break and if by some miracle it doesn't you can party like a fooker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 I've accepted the fact that we'll be in League 1 next season. Not because it will be easier to take when it is confirmed, but because I genuinely can't see us surviving if we continue as we are. This is my lowest point as a Saints fan without question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilsburydoughboy Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 No matter how many times i try and convince myself that we will show some of the old blood and guts i am already convinced we are ****ed. The only silver lining is that we might just get rid of the blight on our club that is the ruddy cheeked arrogant tosser chairman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jason Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 I would start preparing yourself for the inevitable drop to league one and likely administration. That way if it happens it will lessen the heart-break and if by some miracle it doesn't you can party like a fooker! I'm with you, i've felt relegation was on the cards as soon as Portaloo was appointed, I still purchased 2 season tickets in blind hope, even when Lowe closed the Itchen corner I passed up the get out clause and moved my seat. Thats what you do isn't it, your head know's whats coming yet your heart tricks you into thinking "it might not be as bad as i think" As Mr. X says, prepare for relegation, its coming my friend, we have a board, manager and team unable to change tactics to stop the inevitable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 I accepted we were relegated before the season started. Pre-season illustrated how weak we were and things have gone backwards since then. Civil war at SFC is about to breakout and it's going to be very bloody and ugly and I'm not sure SFC, as it is, will survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Being a Saints fan has never been that easy. I seen lots of ups and downs since 1956 and it reminds me on that great western film, the good, the bad and the downright ugly. Ugly is where we are now. As for the game on Sat, I have to be honest and write that I do feel sorry for JP. It is really not his* fault that we are in this position. I won't argue with those that say he is not up to the job. I would argue that he is working with the least talented bunch of players that I have ever seen playing for the Saints. There were players on the pitch that should not be in the 2nd Div, never mind the CCC. But we have what we can afford and that's not a great deal, sadly. * An experiment that looked good (?) on paper, for someone (imo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jason Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Being a Saints fan has never been that easy. I seen lots of ups and downs since 1956 and it reminds me on that great western film, the good, the bad and the downright ugly. Ugly is where we are now. As for the game on Sat, I have to be honest and write that I do feel sorry for JP. It is really not his* fault that we are in this position. I won't argue with those that say he is not up to the job. I would argue that he is working with the least talented bunch of players that I have ever seen playing for the Saints. There were players on the pitch that should not be in the 2nd Div, never mind the CCC. But we have what we can afford and that's not a great deal, sadly. * An experiment that looked good (?) on paper, for someone (imo) Regardless of the talent one thing for sure is if you play your left winger on the right and your right winger on the left, take of your 1 experienced center back your going to loose! That has nothing to do with finances or talent that is down to inept tactics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 I'm with you, i've felt relegation was on the cards as soon as Portaloo was appointed, I still purchased 2 season tickets in blind hope, even when Lowe closed the Itchen corner I passed up the get out clause and moved my seat. Thats what you do isn't it, your head know's whats coming yet your heart tricks you into thinking "it might not be as bad as i think" As Mr. X says, prepare for relegation, its coming my friend, we have a board, manager and team unable to change tactics to stop the inevitable! Its so disheartening being able to see who and what the problem is but not being able to do a thing about it other than watch the spirit of southampton set sail on a one way voyage. People said the last four or five years have been our worse time as supporters well its nothing compared to the effects dropping out of this division and the subsequent administration will bring. I am 100% convinced we are down unless action is taken before the norwich game there is no time to wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tango Man Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 I have already accepted we will be relegated..we have a club with no spine and players with balls to fight..just hope they discover this trait and go down fighting.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voteforpedro Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 I find it hard to see us staying up but certainly have not accepted relegation. I will continue to go to games and give the team my 100% support, regardless of how little difference it makes, as this is all I am able to do to help the team. I hope that after seeing the scenes inside st. marys on saturday the players will understand how passionate we are about our club and maybe put up a bit of a fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 I said we'd be relegated last summer... but we MUST FIGHT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 It doesn't look to rosy at the moment, our home form is dire, and we haven't got a pot to pee in. I suppose there's an optimistic/pessimistic way to take things at the moment, but is it easier to admit we're doomed to lighten the burden we potentially suffer at the end of the season (or alternately survive and be amazed), or not admit defeat until it potentially happens? I'm caught in two minds. My colleagues are arses, and they make it difficult to be a Saints fan, but I stand up and take the banter, as they do when their respective teams arse up. If I accept relegation, even at this stage in the season, I can turn around in May, shrug my shoulders and say "Meh, I told you it would happen", thus making it more bearable. Alternately, I could be defiant, tell them we'll be safe, and hope with every wish in my body that we stage a minor miracle. Tis a hard life for all Saints fans at the moment. What do you reckon? As a supporter it is far better to accept the inevitable. The inevitable will happen unless something changes (something being manager and chairman). If that happens then you can hope, if not then there is no hope. It won't make it any easier when it happens but it will stop a lot of fretting between now and May. If by some miracle JP suddenly learns about tactics and where to play players and we win some home games then nothing lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Reigned Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 From the moment Downing scored the equaliser for 'Boro in our relegation season from the Prem I was certain we'd go down, and it did make it easier to take when it was confirmed. I have the same feeling after the Doncaster defeat so my mind is now preparing for the worst (well relegation at least). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egreog Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Relegation is inevitable........... there is no plan B which is precisely why this bunch of no hopers will stumble aimlessly into the 3rd division and out the other end next year........there is no leadership , no fight, no desire, no will to win, no guts, no direction or plan......... the whole thing is rudderless from boardroom to ballboy. Under the circumstances its hard to see any promising future, but if the club does fold, it will be an example to the rest of football of how to allow a cancer within a club to grow and kill off what was until a few years ago a family run club in a tight ground with a magnificent atmosphere.....and despite its limitations the envy of many clubs in this country..........just a total disaster really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 It's beyond retrieval now with this manager and these players. If Poortvliet had the nous to turn things round then he would have done so by now. The players have lost faith in him and he's just going through the motions. If he's still in charge at Norwich then I don't hold out much hope for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 I've accepted will be relegated I just take the mickey out of the guy at work who supports Charlton and Pompey! It makes me laugh anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Whitey: I am inclined to agree. It is already too late now.. even with a new manager I just can't see us picking up the points. We've wasted too many of the "easy" games and lost two major home games against people we should have beaten. We don't deserve to stay up on that showing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 COME ON! With a new manager there's at least HOPE! ...with JP and Lowe I agree... we're fooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Whitey: I am inclined to agree. It is already too late now.. even with a new manager I just can't see us picking up the points. We've wasted too many of the "easy" games and lost two major home games against people we should have beaten. We don't deserve to stay up on that showing. With someone in charge who knows his business there's just a chance that we can get some method and discipline instilled into the squad but even then it'll be touch and go. At the moment, though, we're holed below the waterline and foundering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 With someone in charge who knows his business there's just a chance that we can get some method and discipline instilled into the squad but even then it'll be touch and go. At the moment, though, we're holed below the waterline and foundering Yes! At last! Hope and just a little sense from a non-defeatist! I agree. NEW MANAGER...... NOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westofshannonsaint Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 I wrote the season off once Lowe got rid of NP, it is sickening. my workmates tell me to look on the bright side! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Oh dear, I've just had a look at the fixture list and I can't see more than two wins in any of the games, so League 1 here we come! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Oh dear, I've just had a look at the fixture list and I can't see more than two wins in any of the games, so League 1 here we come! Wait to you see the League 1 fixture list when you review our team without Kelvin, Lallana, Euell, John, Rasiak, Skacel, Surman, Shnederlain, Perry, Wotton... need I go on with bad spellings. Even with our better players I genuinely think we will struggle in League 1 next season. People think the CCC is tough... tell you what! We're going to League 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiansaint Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 At least be proud. Go down fighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Were not down yet by a long way. Were on a knife edge for sure, but there are 18 matches and 54 points at stake for the rest of the season and the 8 nearest clubs above us are within 6 points. Notts Forest, who were really struggling with a young team like ours are currently top of the table on the form of their past 6 games. However throw in a bit of chanting, demos and crowd trouble and Im sure we can tip the balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 I've been a Saints fan ever since we hit the big time in 1966/67. You could call me a plastic fan if you wanted, tbh, I don't care a jot. I've watched Saints through most of the stuff most of today's fans can only dream of. I've always been loyal, to what ever I've been involved in, but there come a time when you get old enough and savvy enough to say... enough is enough. If Saints dip into League 1, that's pretty much it with me. I've got far better things to do. Sailing, motorcycling, just doing other stuff. Yeah, I'll talk about Saints stuff on here, but it'll be a pale shadow of what went before - long before. Honestly, this club has got to do a lot better to retain my interest. I've done with the inconsistency, the failure to improve on the last hopeful result. That's typical Saints anyway, and I'm not going to put up with it any longer. It's time Saints showed me they're worth the bother, because they certainly aren't at present. I'm supposed to be a customer. Well I don't like the product. Sell me one I'll consider buying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 Can see the same outfit here next season and another relegation to go with it. Things must change now and we must fight every game. Lowe and his Dutch crew and all his cronies out....But no...He will take on more coaches Why do you do it Mr Lowe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 19 January, 2009 Share Posted 19 January, 2009 i have accepted that we will be relegated if we carry on as we are. what i cant accept is that it doesnt look likely that lowe will do anything to stop it. we need a fresh approach off and on the pitch,if we dont start kicking and fighting to survive then why should i bother to support. it will be a hard decision but i work hard so that i am able to afford my season tickets for me and the kids,if i see that the club is just giving up and rolling over then so will i. whats the point in fighting to keep a club alive that doesnt want to live? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 20 January, 2009 Share Posted 20 January, 2009 Could it be that Lowe knows that administration and 10 point deduction is inevitable - maybe imminent - and there is no point in changing manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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