Tyler Dibling

[Dry Toast]

He wanted to leave more than once and has come up short again. None of us outside of his family should invest any emotion in his future unless you are a masochist. He's set for life, barring some horrendous financial decisions. Well done to him and his advisors. We don't need him back here, that is certain.

[saintant]

11 hours ago, St. Ciervo said:

Looking forward to buying him back for peanuts. Telling an introverted "quiet boy" to "take his finger out" is not going to be a successful approach. He needs to be boosted. 

I would imagine Moyes is quite a tough manager to work for and has now run out of patience with the softly softly approach. This is his way of telling Tyler the honeymoon period is well and truly over and it's time for him to start performing.

[East Kent Saint]

I would suggest he needs careful handling and his rebirth may take some time , he needs personal coaching to understand he is part of a team . He needs to realise that assisting other members of the team is a good thing and just being on the pitch is not enough . He needs to understand that just waiting  for an opportunity is not the way to go etc . Things he should have been taught at Saints , you could say if he dosen't fit in why bother but developing youngsters is important.

[beatlesaint]

6 hours ago, East Kent Saint said:

I would suggest he needs careful handling and his rebirth may take some time , he needs personal coaching to understand he is part of a team . He needs to realise that assisting other members of the team is a good thing and just being on the pitch is not enough . He needs to understand that just waiting  for an opportunity is not the way to go etc . Things he should have been taught at Saints , you could say if he dosen't fit in why bother but developing youngsters is important.

I would suggest Everton totally ignored the chance to do some homework on him before spending big bucks. After the Chelsea debacle the warning signs were there. That’s why I’m surprised he left when he did but hey ho not our problem anymore.

[St. Ciervo]

11 hours ago, saintant said:

I would imagine Moyes is quite a tough manager to work for and has now run out of patience with the softly softly approach. This is his way of telling Tyler the honeymoon period is well and truly over and it's time for him to start performing.

I responded to a Moyes-type coach growing up. But I see that coaching style falling out of favor these days with my teenaged students. Kiddos don't respond like we did back in the day... OMG, I sound like an old man. I imagine that is starting to funnel up to professionals, as well (hence RM was a hit with the squad).

[macca155]

We mustn't forget the lad is exceptionally talented. Game changing players like him are very rare. Everton paid for the potential, but seem to have forgotten their responsibility to nurture that talent. Particularly as he is quite introverted and in need of a gentle touch. RM was good at that, it certainly isn't Moyes's style. Now they have a broken player on their hands.

They should have paid less, but arranged a loan back to Saints. The one place he was comfortable with. Both teams would have been winners. 

Both Chelsea and City are good at loaning youngsters, and retaining those that live up to their billing. It seems a good model.

 

[Willo of Whiteley]

Let’s not get too carried away. 
He looked decent at times but was largely ineffective for us.

The reason he gets hyped up is:
- He’s from the academy
- He’s English 
- He was one of the best in an awful barrel of players last season

You could argue that Ryan Manning was a better player for us last season than him. He probably was.

[malcolm waldron]

17 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Let’s not get too carried away. 
He looked decent at times but was largely ineffective for us.

The reason he gets hyped up is:
- He’s from the academy
- He’s English 
- He was one of the best in an awful barrel of players last season

You could argue that Ryan Manning was a better player for us last season than him. He probably was.

Hopefully Everton will pay £40M for him this summer too then...

[Colinjb]

12 hours ago, St. Ciervo said:

I responded to a Moyes-type coach growing up. But I see that coaching style falling out of favor these days with my teenaged students. Kiddos don't respond like we did back in the day... OMG, I sound like an old man. I imagine that is starting to funnel up to professionals, as well (hence RM was a hit with the squad).

You see it in the classroom. A disciplinarian would just be ridiculed by children now, it becomes a game to get a reaction and run rings around them.

Maintaining high standards whilst building positive relationships is a big challenge, often seemingly opposing in aim.... But not impossible. RM clearly couldn't maintain high standards of approach in the areas that needed discipline even if he could (and it was his clear strength) get the players on side.

[Baird of the land]

42 minutes ago, macca155 said:

We mustn't forget the lad is exceptionally talented. Game changing players like him are very rare. Everton paid for the potential, but seem to have forgotten their responsibility to nurture that talent. Particularly as he is quite introverted and in need of a gentle touch. RM was good at that, it certainly isn't Moyes's style. Now they have a broken player on their hands.

They should have paid less, but arranged a loan back to Saints. The one place he was comfortable with. Both teams would have been winners. 

Both Chelsea and City are good at loaning youngsters, and retaining those that live up to their billing. It seems a good model.

 

Everton do seem to have given opportunities to young players this season and some of them are thriving.

Honestly, he probably needs the kick up the arse (everton feeling they need to loan a chelsea youngster) as he's been coasting since early last season.

[saintant]

56 minutes ago, macca155 said:

We mustn't forget the lad is exceptionally talented. Game changing players like him are very rare. Everton paid for the potential, but seem to have forgotten their responsibility to nurture that talent. Particularly as he is quite introverted and in need of a gentle touch. RM was good at that, it certainly isn't Moyes's style. Now they have a broken player on their hands.

They should have paid less, but arranged a loan back to Saints. The one place he was comfortable with. Both teams would have been winners. 

Both Chelsea and City are good at loaning youngsters, and retaining those that live up to their billing. It seems a good model.

 

Unfortunately for Tyler he arrived with a huge fee weighing him down so, like fans across the country, Everton's are looking for signs that the money wasn't wasted. You can't blame them so Tyler is going to have to start looking like he's interested in getting them off their seats.

[saintant]

29 minutes ago, Colinjb said:

You see it in the classroom. A disciplinarian would just be ridiculed by children now, it becomes a game to get a reaction and run rings around them.

Maintaining high standards whilst building positive relationships is a big challenge, often seemingly opposing in aim.... But not impossible. RM clearly couldn't maintain high standards of approach in the areas that needed discipline even if he could (and it was his clear strength) get the players on side.

I can't imagine any players trying to ridicule Moyes to be honest 🙂