What Is Happening To Our Country?

[Weston Super Saint]

Danny Dyer just reminds me of the Wealdstone Raider 🤣

https://youtube.com/shorts/sAhEFuq62-I?si=iSKOHgfuZbKSCIMl

[Turkish]

1 hour ago, egg said:

I like films that are so crap they're actually good, of that makes sense. 

I can't take Danny Dyer seriously as a hard man though. He's just a scrawny bloke with an exaggerated accent, and walks like he's lugging rolls of carpet under his arms. 

He’s a bit of a joke but I think he plays up to it and doesn’t take himself seriously. Plenty of people will look down their nose at that sort of bloke but he’s had a pretty good career for basically playing himself on films for 25 years. The Business is a great film mind

[egg]

9 minutes ago, Turkish said:

He’s a bit of a joke but I think he plays up to it and doesn’t take himself seriously. Plenty of people will look down their nose at that sort of bloke but he’s had a pretty good career for basically playing himself on films for 25 years. The Business is a great film mind

He was on a programme on (I think) channel 4 where celebs were engaging with youngsters with neuro divergence and learning issues. He was kind, open, genuine and warm. Seems a very decent bloke, but he still doesn't convince me as a hard man. 

[Turkish]

18 hours ago, egg said:

He was on a programme on (I think) channel 4 where celebs were engaging with youngsters with neuro divergence and learning issues. He was kind, open, genuine and warm. Seems a very decent bloke, but he still doesn't convince me as a hard man. 

He isnt thats why. He's like thousands of blokes from that area, god knows i've met enough. Talk in that accent, use a bit of rhyming slang, walk like they're carrying carpets and think everyone is scared of them because they support West Ham, Millwall or because they're from a "proper manor". Blokes from Portsmouth are a diet version of the above. 

Edited 13 October, 2025 by Turkish

[Turkish]

I would say one of the major issues this county faces is is the lack of personal responsibility for everything which seems to have taken over.

It starts with schools and deluded parents who question the teachers when their kid gets in trouble at school. Whereas when i was a kid if i get in trouble at school i'd then also be in trouble when i got home now we constantly see parents going down to school to rant at the teachers.

It's no surprises this is translating into soft, entitled adults who blame everyone else or conditions they have for their failings. We have a generation of people with no resilience who go to pieces when faced with even the most minor bit of adversity. 

Then you see the blaming of the government for not doing enough. The most recent example of this you can see is the Joe Wicks program about the protein bar he made that is full if shit that does more harm than good. The message is the government need to do more, blah, blah, blah. Yes i do agree the food industry needs more regulation, but given that and the pharma industry seem to be working hand in hand, that unlikely to happen. However people are responsible for what they stick in their gobs, no one else, but they seem to want to shift the blame of their own greed because they hadn't been given specific instructions to the letter as to what they should be doing. I would suggest that unless you are fucking stupid most people know what's healthy and what isn't but rather than take responsibility for themselves they shift the blame that there aren't warnings on food packages, it's insane.

[tdmickey3]

13 minutes ago, Turkish said:

I would say one of the major issues this county faces is is the lack of personal responsibility for everything which seems to have taken over.

It starts with schools and deluded parents who question the teachers when their kid gets in trouble at school. Whereas when i was a kid if i get in trouble at school i'd then also be in trouble when i got home now we constantly see parents going down to school to rant at the teachers.

It's no surprises this is translating into soft, entitled adults who blame everyone else or conditions they have for their failings. We have a generation of people with no resilience who go to pieces when faced with even the most minor bit of adversity. 

Then you see the blaming of the government for not doing enough. The most recent example of this you can see is the Joe Wicks program about the protein bar he made that is full if shit that does more harm than good. The message is the government need to do more, blah, blah, blah. Yes i do agree the food industry needs more regulation, but given that and the pharma industry seem to be working hand in hand, that unlikely to happen. However people are responsible for what they stick in their gobs, no one else, but they seem to want to shift the blame of their own greed because they hadn't been given specific instructions to the letter as to what they should be doing. I would suggest that unless you are fucking stupid most people know what's healthy and what isn't but rather than take responsibility for themselves they shift the blame that there aren't warnings on food packages, it's insane.

That is a good post 

[hypochondriac]

15 minutes ago, Turkish said:

I would say one of the major issues this county faces is is the lack of personal responsibility for everything which seems to have taken over.

It starts with schools and deluded parents who question the teachers when their kid gets in trouble at school. Whereas when i was a kid if i get in trouble at school i'd then also be in trouble when i got home now we constantly see parents going down to school to rant at the teachers.

It's no surprises this is translating into soft, entitled adults who blame everyone else or conditions they have for their failings. We have a generation of people with no resilience who go to pieces when faced with even the most minor bit of adversity. 

Then you see the blaming of the government for not doing enough. The most recent example of this you can see is the Joe Wicks program about the protein bar he made that is full if shit that does more harm than good. The message is the government need to do more, blah, blah, blah. Yes i do agree the food industry needs more regulation, but given that and the pharma industry seem to be working hand in hand, that unlikely to happen. However people are responsible for what they stick in their gobs, no one else, but they seem to want to shift the blame of their own greed because they hadn't been given specific instructions to the letter as to what they should be doing. I would suggest that unless you are fucking stupid most people know what's healthy and what isn't but rather than take responsibility for themselves they shift the blame that there aren't warnings on food packages, it's insane.

That's correct but it actually starts at nursery where parents routinely take the word of a 2 year old over the adults looking after them. I don't know if it's a general distrust of authority but it's miles worse than it was even a decade ago. 

[Stripey McStripe Shirt]

A 'pumpkin patch ' has just opened down the road from me. From what I can tell a local landowner has simply dumped a load of pumpkins in a field and is charging people for the privilege of "picking" one.

What the fuckidy fuck is that all about, and why is it a thing in the UK?!

[tdmickey3]

58 minutes ago, Stripey McStripe Shirt said:

A 'pumpkin patch ' has just opened down the road from me. From what I can tell a local landowner has simply dumped a load of pumpkins in a field and is charging people for the privilege of "picking" one.

What the fuckidy fuck is that all about, and why is it a thing in the UK?!

Business opportunity 

[rallyboy]

20 hours ago, Turkish said:

I would say one of the major issues this county faces is is the lack of personal responsibility for everything which seems to have taken over.

It starts with schools and deluded parents who question the teachers when their kid gets in trouble at school. Whereas when i was a kid if i get in trouble at school i'd then also be in trouble when i got home now we constantly see parents going down to school to rant at the teachers.

It's no surprises this is translating into soft, entitled adults who blame everyone else or conditions they have for their failings. We have a generation of people with no resilience who go to pieces when faced with even the most minor bit of adversity. 

Then you see the blaming of the government for not doing enough. 

It's the same people driving the extreme end of the compensation culture, sticking their hands in kettles, putting nails through their hands, walking into walls etc - there needs to be a warning on the hammer, the wall needs a sign...

The mantra now is, I've done something stupid, it must be someone else's fault.

[ecuk268]

3 hours ago, rallyboy said:

It's the same people driving the extreme end of the compensation culture, sticking their hands in kettles, putting nails through their hands, walking into walls etc - there needs to be a warning on the hammer, the wall needs a sign...

The mantra now is, I've done something stupid, it must be someone else's fault.

In the last couple of days I've seen 2 cases of people going abroad without travel insurance and having bad accidents or illness.

They can't afford to be flown home so set up a GoFundMe page and expect other people to pay for them.

[whelk]

1 hour ago, ecuk268 said:

In the last couple of days I've seen 2 cases of people going abroad without travel insurance and having bad accidents or illness.

They can't afford to be flown home so set up a GoFundMe page and expect other people to pay for them.

Travel insurance is cheap as chips as well 

[SotonianWill]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/10/14/six-ways-gen-z-ruining-the-workplace/

 

Young people: the inventors of informal dress code, work gossip and having too many coffee breaks. Definitely just the young. Let’s blame them - now pay my pension, lazy! 

[sadoldgit]

King’s army???

https://humanists.uk/2025/10/09/homophobic-christian-nationalist-mob-targets-londons-gay-district/

Meanwhile born again Christian, Yaxley-Lennon (apparently he was ‘led to Christ’ whilst in prison), is off the meet with his new found friends to fight the scourge of Islam.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/oct/05/uk-jewish-groups-condemn-israeli-minister-invite-tommy-robinson-israel

Edited 15 October, 2025 by sadoldgit

[whelk]

Humanists.uk lol

Edited 15 October, 2025 by whelk

[Weston Super Saint]

37 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

King’s army???

https://humanists.uk/2025/10/09/homophobic-christian-nationalist-mob-targets-londons-gay-district/

Meanwhile born again Christian, Yaxley-Lennon (apparently he was ‘led to Christ’ whilst in prison), is off the meet with his new found friends to fight the scourge of Islam.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/oct/05/uk-jewish-groups-condemn-israeli-minister-invite-tommy-robinson-israel

#obsessed

[Turkish]

1 hour ago, Weston Super Saint said:

#obsessed

Interesting, Chat GPT seems to concur 

Yes, based on recent posts, sadoldgit does mention Tommy Robinson (Stephen Yaxley-Lennon) more frequently than other posters on the SaintsWeb forum. He often references Robinson in a critical context, sometimes humorously, and in discussions about political figures and events.

 

 

Notable Mentions

 

 

• The Unicorns and Rainbows Thread: In this thread, sadoldgit humorously responds to a post by CB Fry, saying, “He might have to do so in a new language. It sounds like he might be planning to spend some time abroad. Still, more good news eh?” This was in reference to Tommy Robinson’s legal issues and potential imprisonment.
• The small things in life that bring you joy: Sadoldgit expresses amusement at Robinson’s arrest for illegal immigration, stating, “His arrest for illegal immigration brings me great joy.”
• The Reform Thread: He discusses a conversation with an acquaintance who supports Trump and plans to vote for Farage’s Reform UK party, indicating a connection between such political figures and support for Robinson.

 

 

While other users occasionally mention Robinson, sadoldgit’s posts indicate a more frequent and detailed engagement with discussions involving him.

[Weston Super Saint]

3 hours ago, Turkish said:

 

• The Reform Thread: He discusses a conversation with an acquaintance who supports Trump and plans to vote for Farage’s Reform UK party, indicating a connection between such political figures and support for Robinson.

Even chatpdgtp is trolling soggy and his "acquaintances"!

Maybe AI is becoming more human, should we be afraid?

[Lord Duckhunter]

1 hour ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Even chatpdgtp is trolling soggy and his "acquaintances"!

Maybe AI is becoming more human, should we be afraid?

Defo 

 

“there are a fair number of times where he claims or implies that people he meets agree with him — 

he sometimes says things like “I hear plenty of people saying …” or refers to people who echo his views. 

For example, in discussions about politics (e.g. Brexit, Farage), he notes that there are people around who think he’s right, or that others are saying things he agrees with. 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[tdmickey3]

Drones getting into prisons like 'pack of wasps' - as footage shows why drug drops are so hard to stop | UK News | Sky News

[Weston Super Saint]

4 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

Drones getting into prisons like 'pack of wasps' - as footage shows why drug drops are so hard to stop | UK News | Sky News

I saw a news article on that last week. I thought there could be a novel solution by building a roof, or maybe installing a net, but then thought that was probably too "out of the box" so didn't pass my thoughts on to the MoJ.

[whelk]

More fuel for Reform. Deport these cunts and never let them back

https://news.sky.com/story/three-men-charged-with-raping-woman-at-brighton-beach-13451021

[hypochondriac]

1 hour ago, whelk said:

More fuel for Reform. Deport these cunts and never let them back

https://news.sky.com/story/three-men-charged-with-raping-woman-at-brighton-beach-13451021

Seriously what are these people doing here? Every day we are getting stories like this. This is madness. 

[Lord Duckhunter]

 

[benjii]

Israeli and "Jew" are not the same thing.

[The Kraken]

11 minutes ago, benjii said:

Israeli and "Jew" are not the same thing.

Most people understand that, some don’t. And tbf that post contained the line “If British police cannot guarantee the safety of Jewish and Israeli fans at a football match, what does that say about the state of policing and public order in this country?”, so I don’t think that particular accusation is valid in this instance, whatever the overall sentiment.

[Weston Super Saint]

35 minutes ago, benjii said:

Israeli and "Jew" are not the same thing.

Not sure Hamas are happy to make that distinction.

[egg]

8 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Not sure Hamas are happy to make that distinction.

Israel haven't been able to distinguish between Hamas and Palestinian on a grand scale. 

[Weston Super Saint]

42 minutes ago, egg said:

Israel haven't been able to distinguish between Hamas and Palestinian on a grand scale. 

Very true.

[Lord Duckhunter]

1 hour ago, The Kraken said:

If British police cannot guarantee the safety of Jewish and Israeli fans at a football match, what does that say about the state of policing and public order in this country?

That’s the nub of the issue. 

[egg]

1 hour ago, The Kraken said:

Most people understand that, some don’t. And tbf that post contained the line “If British police cannot guarantee the safety of Jewish and Israeli fans at a football match, what does that say about the state of policing and public order in this country?”, so I don’t think that particular accusation is valid in this instance, whatever the overall sentiment.

Yep.

You could just cut the words "Jewish and Israeli" and it'd address the primary issue of the police not being up to the job of policing. 

[AlexLaw76]

13 minutes ago, egg said:

Yep.

You could just cut the words "Jewish and Israeli" and it'd address the primary issue of the police not being up to the job of policing. 

 

I am sure if this game was not in a city like Birmingham it would not be such an issue.....

I wonder what threats from the largely peaceful 'local community' have been made?

Edited 16 October, 2025 by AlexLaw76

[whelk]

53 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

 

I am sure if this game was not in a city like Birmingham it would not be such an issue.....

I wonder what threats from the largely peaceful 'local community' have been made?

Well we can safely eliminate it won’t be from any followers of the peaceful religion 

[hypochondriac]

I can see why loads of people want to vote for the party that says they are going to get rid of people like this.

 

[tdmickey3]

18 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I can see why loads of people want to vote for the party that says they are going to get rid of people like this.

 

Do you mean the party that says they will get rid of these people?

Dot they all promise that?

[rallyboy]

11 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

 

I am sure if this game was not in a city like Birmingham it would not be such an issue.....

I wonder what threats from the largely peaceful 'local community' have been made?

Maccabi fans have a history of attacking locals and leaving a trail of damage, so this ban will protect UK citizens from extremist ultras. They can still sing their traditional club songs about dead children, raping their rivals and drinking their blood, while they watch it on TV. The UK is safer without them, Starmer needs to do his research.

[hypochondriac]

11 minutes ago, rallyboy said:

Maccabi fans have a history of attacking locals and leaving a trail of damage, so this ban will protect UK citizens from extremist ultras. They can still sing their traditional club songs about dead children, raping their rivals and drinking their blood, while they watch it on TV. The UK is safer without them, Starmer needs to do his research.

Were Maccabi fans banned because of their hooligan behaviour then? Because I thought the reason was because they were Jewish.

Edited 17 October, 2025 by hypochondriac

[hypochondriac]

53 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

Do you mean the party that says they will get rid of these people?

Dot they all promise that?

I haven't seen much from the Greens about it. Both Labour and Conservative have a history of failure in that regard. 

[rallyboy]

8 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Were Maccabi fans banned because of their hooligan behaviour then? Because I thought the reason was because they were Jewish.

No, where did you get that from? 😲

They've been banned over safety concerns, just as Frankfurt and Ajax fans have also been banned from upcoming away games.

[AlexLaw76]

21 minutes ago, rallyboy said:

Maccabi fans have a history of attacking locals and leaving a trail of damage, so this ban will protect UK citizens from extremist ultras. They can still sing their traditional club songs about dead children, raping their rivals and drinking their blood, while they watch it on TV. The UK is safer without them, Starmer needs to do his research.

Amazing

and you actually believe it

Edited 17 October, 2025 by AlexLaw76

[hypochondriac]

4 minutes ago, rallyboy said:

No, where did you get that from? 😲

They've been banned over safety concerns, just as Frankfurt and Ajax fans have also been banned from upcoming away games.

Have the safety concerns been articulated? Nothing to do with the potential for loads of Israelis entering an area with a very high Muslim population in the current climate?

[AlexLaw76]

1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

Have the safety concerns been articulated? Nothing to do with the potential for loads of Israelis entering an area with a very high Muslim population in the current climate?

If this game was being held in many other English cities, it would be no real issue.

 

[hypochondriac]

3 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

If this game was being held in many other English cities, it would be no real issue.

 

I still haven't seen anything definitive. Have they been banned because they are hooligans and they have potential to cause disorder (fair enough but then we've had fans with similar reputations in the past that haven't been banned) or is it because the police don't believe they can keep a load of Israelis safe going through Birmingham? Genuine question by the way. I've seen the usual antisemitic accounts celebrating because they believe they successfully got the away fans banned. 

Edited 17 October, 2025 by hypochondriac

[tdmickey3]

36 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I haven't seen much from the Greens about it. Both Labour and Conservative have a history of failure in that regard. 

True, but what makes anyone think Reform could do any better, perhaps it`s their racist rhetoric ? 

[hypochondriac]

3 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

True, but what makes anyone think Reform could do any better, perhaps it`s their racist rhetoric ? 

I didn't say they would. What I was saying is that if you want action on that sort of thing then you're not going to vote for the two parties that have failed or the party that hasn't said they will deal with it. Reform may well fail like the other two but as yet that is unproven.

[Mixedkebab]

1 hour ago, rallyboy said:

No, where did you get that from? 😲

They've been banned over safety concerns, just as Frankfurt and Ajax fans have also been banned from upcoming away games.

It’s fucking bullshit

the ratio of coppers to fans at football matches is ridiculously high- they have got more power and technology than ever. This banning of fans from travelling is sinister crap, whether it’s Ajax, Maccabi, whoever. If Notting Hill Carnival can be policed then a football match with about 1000 travelling fans should be an absolute fucking piece of cake. Restricting fans from being allowed to travel is pitiful. 
What a laughable situation, anyone supporting it is a strange type of wormy maggot that’s for sure.

[tdmickey3]

44 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I didn't say they would. What I was saying is that if you want action on that sort of thing then you're not going to vote for the two parties that have failed or the party that hasn't said they will deal with it. Reform may well fail like the other two but as yet that is unproven.

The problem is they system and unless its changed the issue will continue and to pass new laws and legislation takes time and agreement of all of parliament, but because opposition parties cannot bear or be seen to agree with current governments even if it is in best interest of the country

[hypochondriac]

9 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

The problem is they system and unless its changed the issue will continue and to pass new laws and legislation takes time and agreement of all of parliament, but because opposition parties cannot bear or be seen to agree with current governments even if it is in best interest of the country

I don't disagree. I do think you are going to have to make wholesale changes to the ECHR or ultimately leave it if you're serious about removing these people. It's genuinely outrageous that someone can cite articles from it and then we are forced to support and unable to remove genuinely evil people. Every country in the world should have the right to remove people who aren't citizens and who have committed criminal acts. Personally I think it's mad that the general public have voted to reduce immigration for decades and have basically been ignored and then you wonder why you end up with parties like reform. Maybe the mainstream parties should have done something more substantial earlier.

[hypochondriac]

1 hour ago, rallyboy said:

No, where did you get that from? 😲

They've been banned over safety concerns, just as Frankfurt and Ajax fans have also been banned from upcoming away games.

Having looked into it I'm pretty sure that the decision is at least partly influenced by the potential disorder for pro Palestinian protests in a high Muslim area. So it doesn't appear to me to be solely on the hooligan element of the away fans.

[egg]

1 hour ago, hypochondriac said:

Were Maccabi fans banned because of their hooligan behaviour then? Because I thought the reason was because they were Jewish.

You've been listening to Badenoch. It's because of their history, and because they're Israeli.