whelk Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 36 minutes ago, leesaint88 said: People are a product of the environment they are brought up in. Sadly if parents have a rather dim look on immigration, the EU, education, science etc then that's going to be passed on. Over the years I've had a few lads work for me who had challenging upbringings and nearly all of them had a mistrust of pretty much everything and everyone! I've only just managed to convince one that having a HepA and B vaccination won't cause you to become impotent.. In the past thick people were more deferential and trusting of those in charge. Now they are constantly fed the message that they are not thick, they are the ones that truly know what is going, it’s the ‘elites’ trying to manipulate you but you are too wise for their trickery. So you aren’t thick after all, things are really simple to solve. Sadly the psychology and the brain wiring won’t actually lead them to process information like hey since Brexit we have massively increased immigration I was misled. No, Brexit wasn’t implemented properly so I was right all along I am still not stupid. 7 1
east-stand-nic Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 22 hours ago, benjii said: Reform will try to dismantle public services, dismantle civil rights, increaee their own institutional power, continue to reveibe money from Russian sources, dumb down the media (I know you have some trenchant views on that), embarass us on the world stage, alienate closest trading partners (more), and stuff government full of grifting, unimpressive, MAGAts. So, that's why I don't think they're worth a go. And you have evidence of this? You don't think the media is already being dumbed down? Jeez. You are guessing what they will do based on your confirmation bias because you don't like them. But you have no idea in truth that they will actually do any of those things. But we do know exactly what they other two will do as they have been doing it for decades. 4
whelk Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 28 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said: And you have evidence of this? You don't think the media is already being dumbed down? Jeez. You are guessing what they will do based on your confirmation bias because you don't like them. But you have no idea in truth that they will actually do any of those things. But we do know exactly what the other two will do as they have been doing it for decades. Fucking hell, this comical clown doesn’t stop 1
whelk Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 30 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said: And you have evidence of this? You don't think the media is already being dumbed down? Jeez. You are guessing what they will do based on your confirmation bias because you don't like them. But you have no idea in truth that they will actually do any of those things. But we do know exactly what they other two will do as they have been doing it for decades. We get your life is shit and you have been let down all your life. Guess what politicians won’t make it any better. Try some self-help and reflection and stop blaming politicians. You were born into a privileged period and country yet so unhappy. For someone who has self-proclaimed themselves as a worldly wise experiencing and adapting different cultures you really should learn to appreciate what you benefited from more. Although I guess you didn’t get much of an education, but it was in offer and was free. You should have paid more attention. 3 1
east-stand-nic Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 5 hours ago, whelk said: We get your life is shit and you have been let down all your life. Guess what politicians won’t make it any better. Try some self-help and reflection and stop blaming politicians. You were born into a privileged period and country yet so unhappy. For someone who has self-proclaimed themselves as a worldly wise experiencing and adapting different cultures you really should learn to appreciate what you benefited from more. Although I guess you didn’t get much of an education, but it was in offer and was free. You should have paid more attention. 5 hours ago, whelk said: Fucking hell, this comical clown doesn’t stop Superb. Two more nonsensical replies still avoiding points well made. Cornered and you know it. 1
whelk Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, east-stand-nic said: Superb. Two more nonsensical replies still avoiding points well made. Cornered and you know it. … Edited 6 hours ago by whelk Bit too below the belt for someone who iis a harmless idiot 1
egg Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 8 hours ago, east-stand-nic said: And you have evidence of this? You don't think the media is already being dumbed down? Jeez. You are guessing what they will do based on your confirmation bias because you don't like them. But you have no idea in truth that they will actually do any of those things. But we do know exactly what they other two will do as they have been doing it for decades. Policies Reform UK - Reform UK https://share.google/12Tzkq28rTh2kxReN Much of it is in there. Pages 4, 7 and 21 are a start. 1 1
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