Thedelldays Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 I assume he will deserve a chance to continue.. a YES from me.. (a big if mind) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 No get rid as soon as possible........No sentiment in football ask Rupert and Nigel. The Dutch crowd to go home soon as. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 No we need to abandon the whole Dutch revolution imo forever even if he does keep us up which is unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 The jury is out. If he is good enough to save us from the drop (and he was thought good enough to nearly be appointed in preference to Burley) why wasn't he appointed head coach in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 26 January, 2009 No we need to abandon the whole Dutch revolution imo forever even if he does keep us up which is unlikely. but isnt that the sae as rupert saying we need to ditch pearson.. IF wotte keeps us up (which I doubt)..he would have achieved here more than pearson...and YET you say NO.. people say lowe did not want pearson here as he was appointed by crouch...yet already, I am willing to bet fans wont want wotte to stay if he keeps us up as he was appointed by lowe. what a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 The jury is out. If he is good enough to save us from the drop (and he was thought good enough to nearly be appointed in preference to Burley) why wasn't he appointed head coach in the first place? Because the slightly cheaper man had a go first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 26 January, 2009 take the politics out of it for one minute IF wotte keeps us up...will he deserve a chance next season.. it would have to be (and will be) a yes...surely.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 but isnt that the sae as rupert saying we need to ditch pearson.. IF wotte keeps us up (which I doubt)..he would have achieved here more than pearson...and YET you say NO.. people say lowe did not want pearson here as he was appointed by crouch...yet already, I am willing to bet fans wont want wotte to stay if he keeps us up as he was appointed by lowe. what a joke Its not a joke at all its obvious that the longer the crazy dutch experiment goes on the longer Lowe will be a cancer on this club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 If he manages to keep us up, he will have pretty much united the fanbase and all supporters will respect the guy. I think the next move is therefore obvious. We dont offer him another contract and give the job to some bloke from the Belgian 3rd Division......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 take the politics out of it for one minute IF wotte keeps us up...will he deserve a chance next season.. it would have to be (and will be) a yes...surely.? If we win every game between now and the end of the season, then perhaps. Only perhaps though, I'm making no promises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 26 January, 2009 If we win every game between now and the end of the season, then perhaps. Only perhaps though, I'm making no promises. unreal pearson had far more at his disposal and he saved us (just)... all im saying is if wotte keeps us up he would have achieved here far mroe than pearson ON THE PITCH and fans already are saying they wont want him here.. I guess some fans are not so different from the current people in charge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncoboy Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 I think Wotte will turn out to be a revelation. i think he will sort out the problems and get us scoring. Confidentialy predict we will pull ourselves clear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 unreal pearson had far more at his disposal and he saved us (just)... all im saying is if wotte keeps us up he would have achieved here far mroe than pearson ON THE PITCH and fans already are saying they wont want him here.. I guess some fans are not so different from the current people in charge Sorry, I thought it was obvious, but I guess I should have put one of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 26 January, 2009 Sorry, I thought it was obvious, but I guess I should have put one of these. thank god for that...I thought you had completely lost the plot in some sort of obsessive way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N/West Saint Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 If he manages to keep us up then yes he does deserves to stay. However Lowe and Wild Must go, but staying up will keep them in the hot seat so it has to be relegation. (Sorry) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 If he keeps us up then undoubtedly he will have earned the right to stay on IMO. If we go down, he has to walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker268 Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 If he keeps us up then surely it will highlight Jan's poor qualities and show that all we needed was a different man in charge For me if he keeps us up then of course he deserves another chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graymalkin33 Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 If he manages to keep us up, he will have pretty much united the fanbase and all supporters will respect the guy. I think the next move is therefore obvious. We dont offer him another contract and give the job to some bloke from the Belgian 3rd Division......... :smt005 I cant believe there are people on here that will not back Wotte if he keeps us up. I JUST CANT BELIEVE IT!!!!!!!!!!! So can those people please explain what exactly will make you happy? I am talking about a detailed proposal not just a Lowe Out one liner.. sorry, no brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 No get rid as soon as possible........No sentiment in football ask Rupert and Nigel. The Dutch crowd to go home soon as. So if the principle of the youth works with a new manager and we go on to win the rest of our games and totally turn our season around, you think it would still be best to get rid of him because Lowe had a hand in it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 :smt005 I cant believe there are people on here that will not back Wotte if he keeps us up. I JUST CANT BELIEVE IT!!!!!!!!!!! So can those people please explain what exactly will make you happy? I am talking about a detailed proposal not just a Lowe Out one liner.. sorry, no brainer. I back whoever can keep us up, I don't however back the man who will be taking all the credit for it if he does though. Unfortunately we can't have one here without the other, as long as Woote is here Lowe will be here too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 So if the principle of the youth works with a new manager and we go on to win the rest of our games and totally turn our season around, you think it would still be best to get rid of him because Lowe had a hand in it? Yes, I call it the Pearson syndrome....With Lowey he would not like to see a Manager become popular and get his feet under the table..Lowey will out him and put himself in the chair......This was his strategy from the start. It has taken just a little longer....He is cunning like that...Always wanted to be The Football Manager you see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 Yes, I call it the Pearson syndrome....With Lowey he would not like to see a Manager become popular and get his feet under the table..Lowey will out him and put himself in the chair......This was his strategy from the start. It has taken just a little longer....He is cunning like that...Always wanted to be The Football Manager you see. You weren't asked what you thought Lowe would do, but what you would want. Are you a bit obsessed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 but isnt that the sae as rupert saying we need to ditch pearson.. IF wotte keeps us up (which I doubt)..he would have achieved here more than pearson...and YET you say NO.. people say lowe did not want pearson here as he was appointed by crouch...yet already, I am willing to bet fans wont want wotte to stay if he keeps us up as he was appointed by lowe. what a joke I know your views on Lowe and the others but this IMO is how more of us should be thinking. Those banging on about all the bad things Rupes is are just as guilty as him by doing exactly the same things he is accused of. Personally this dutch experiment might have worked better if we still had the finacial security the prem or even the parachute payments gave us, with a stronger team and some kids coming through that were better than what we have now. Im not sure if JP and Wotte would have been the chosen ones but it doesnt matter anyway. I would have liked JP to have been a success and I would be happy for Wotte to be a success. If he is then I would be happy for him to stay on no matter who is in at board level. Said the same about Pearson though TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 take the politics out of it for one minute IF wotte keeps us up...will he deserve a chance next season.. it would have to be (and will be) a yes...surely.? Except he was part of the management that got us into relegation trouble in the first place. Pearson was not associated with anything prior to his appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 Not much point arguing about the issue, as he won't keep us up anyway. However, after he hasn't kept us up, let's hope he really is on peanuts as the administrators at least will be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 If he keeps us up then he will probably deserve his chance at next season. No one knows how we will play under Wotte, maybe he will adopt a more English approach and play more experienced players. The last thing we need is more change for changes sake, if he keeps us up then I see no reason not to keep him for next season where he should hopefully progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordonToo Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 I think Wotte will turn out to be a revelation. i think he will sort out the problems and get us scoring. Confidentialy predict we will pull ourselves clear You may be right. I don't think he'll make the same mistakes as JP but we'll have a much better idea come Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 I want Lowe and his gang gone BUT primary i want a succesful first team , not a profitable PLC, SO IF Wotte can deliver that great. But i am struggling to believe he is going to do anything different , as far as i am concerned he came as a pair with JP , they worked as a pair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 I want Lowe and his gang gone BUT primary i want a succesful first team , not a profitable PLC, SO IF Wotte can deliver that great. But i am struggling to believe he is going to do anything different , as far as i am concerned he came as a pair with JP , they worked as a pair Same here but Wotte would have to take a lot of credit if he turned this around but unless there is a hidden warchest of cash (very unlikely) or Denneboom the new striker is like Saganowski was in the second-half of 2006/7 I think it would take a miracle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ron fan Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 (edited) There is a big difference between Pearson taking over last season and Wotte doing so now. Wotte has had a leading hand in the whole strategy this season, perhaps has even been the mastermind behind it. Somehow scraping together, say, 43 or 44 points and keeping us up by the skin of our teeth due to there being 3 even poorer sides would not get him off the hook. Personally, I think there's minimal chance of that, in any case. If he perhaps keeps us up fairly comfortably, averaging, say, 1.6 points a game, I might think he was worth persevering with. My views are not influenced by who appointed him (although it's difficult to imagine anyone other than Lowe doing so). Remember, he's got more games to put things right than Pearson had, and is not inheriting anyone else's coaching staff. Edited 26 January, 2009 by Big Ron fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 You weren't asked what you thought Lowe would do, but what you would want. Are you a bit obsessed? Forgot to mention that Wottey would want a massive pay rise after all that success....Mind you bit much when he is already on double the wages that Pearson was struggling on. By the way Johnny, do you mind if I call you Fartey as I seem to know you now and you appear to be trying to bully me with your little digs....Love bulley boys by the way and luvveys. Bring em on ....now that is obsession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 Wotte won't save us. We've swopped one dutch clown for another dutch clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 26 January, 2009 Wotte won't save us. We've swopped one dutch clown for another dutch clown. that was not the question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 Forgot to mention that Wottey would want a massive pay rise after all that success....Mind you bit much when he is already on double the wages that Pearson was struggling on. By the way Johnny, do you mind if I call you Fartey as I seem to know you now and you appear to be trying to bully me with your little digs....Love bulley boys by the way and luvveys. Bring em on ....now that is obsession. Firstly, prove the wages thing about Wotte earning more than Pearson. Oh, you can't. Secondly, I am not having a dig I am simply asking a question. You answered a question about what you would want by saying what Lowe (in your opinion) would do. I was only after clarity. Thirdly, if you want to call me something then learn to spell the word first. I refer you to your alternative spelling of both bully and farty. Any chance you could now go back and answer it properly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 26 January, 2009 Somehow scraping together, say, 43 or 44 points and keeping us up by the skin of our teeth due to there being 3 even poorer sides would not get him off the hook. case. . isnt that EXACTLY what pearson did last season...after all, the last day was out of our hands so to speak... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 Firstly, prove the wages thing about Wotte earning more than Pearson. Oh, you can't. Secondly, I am not having a dig I am simply asking a question. You answered a question about what you would want by saying what Lowe (in your opinion) would do. I was only after clarity. Thirdly, if you want to call me something then learn to spell the word first. I refer you to your alternative spelling of both bully and farty. Any chance you could now go back and answer it properly? Suerry fartey it ain't allways clevver is it...canntt hellp myself with people likyoo Directing the show..Imust do bedder. Lowey out eh FARTEY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 that was not the question It was a stupid question as it's not going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 26 January, 2009 It was a stupid question as it's not going to happen. it was prefixed with a "IF"...so what if..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 Suerry fartey it ain't allways clevver is it...canntt hellp myself with people likyoo Directing the show..Imust do bedder. Lowey out eh FARTEY. You seem a tad rattled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 I reckon we will stay up and Charlton will go down and sack their manager, we would then not renew Wottes contract allowing him to take over at Charlton who storm to the top of Div 1 whilst we flirt with relegation. I know its unbelievable that a club whould get rid of a manager who came in and kept the team up, but this is Southampton after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 it was prefixed with a "IF"...so what if..? There's no IF's to it. Wotte will take us down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 26 January, 2009 There's no IF's to it. Wotte will take us down. you dont want to answer the question stanley..what IF by some reason wotte keeps us up..mad as it seems but what IF...would you be happy to let him stay..? I got a feeling you WONT answer as you will be seen either backing a lowe appointment or not backing him (which will make you look as bad as lowe) lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del boy Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 Let's take every match as it comes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 You seem a tad rattled. Shakin all over like jelly wobbles. Wottey the hell is goin on your always right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West End Saint Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 If he can keep us up I for 1 will admit I am wrong and give the guy a chance I can't see it happening and I hope I have to have a large slice of humble pie to stay up we need a drastic change in results and it will be a big achievement and he will deserve our support next season. UTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 you dont want to answer the question stanley..what IF by some reason wotte keeps us up..mad as it seems but what IF...would you be happy to let him stay..? I got a feeling you WONT answer as you will be seen either backing a lowe appointment or not backing him (which will make you look as bad as lowe) lol He won't keep us up so i won't be answering daft questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 26 January, 2009 lol stanley the politician.. just pretend he did stanley...would you be willing to let him stay (please answer the hypothetical question) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 Shakin all over like jelly wobbles. Wottey the hell is goin on your always right. You're always right, not your always right, and yes, I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 lol stanley the politician.. just pretend he did stanley...would you be willing to let him stay (please answer the hypothetical question) But he won't so answering hypothetical questions is a pointless exercise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 26 January, 2009 Share Posted 26 January, 2009 lol stanley the politician.. just pretend he did stanley...would you be willing to let him stay (please answer the hypothetical question) Something about blood in stones and trying to get it out springs to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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