The Starmer Years - Can The New Broom Sweep Clean?

[sadoldgit]

13 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

You could just ignore him.

Yes, I should.

[sadoldgit]

10 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

The boy Streeting is doing well https://www.pharmacy.biz/nhs-waiting-list-for-november-lowest-in-15-years/

PM in waiting?

[Lord Duckhunter]

5 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

PM in waiting?

He fits the profile of a labour leader. White, male, a London constituency. Doubt they’d want to risk someone with a 500 vote majority though..

[Gloucester Saint]

1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

He fits the profile of a labour leader. White, male, a London constituency. Doubt they’d want to risk someone with a 500 vote majority though..

There were very specific reasons though for his majority, same as Phillips that won’t be there in the same volumes in 2029. They’d have both been pretty solid majorities otherwise.

You have a fairer point on gender as the Tories have had three female PMs. Although have the Labour Party since Barbara Castle objectively had a female minister of genuine PM qualities in the same way Thatcher and May were? Some very talented ministers and people like Mo Mowlam for certain but not sure PM skill set.

That said, I don’t think Truss being elected by their members is anything to reflect on with pride. She’s almost as mad as Trump.

[east-stand-nic]

23 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

Yes, I should.

Bit you said you never read my posts and ignore most of the anyway. Outed again. 

[tdmickey3]

27 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

Bit you said you never read my posts and ignore most of the anyway. Outed again. 

The freak is back.... 🤮

[Farmer Saint]

Again, more good news:

https://www.ft.com/content/ea7db2b6-1824-4ebb-b9ac-1d6693b34c74?utm_sf_cserv_ref=8860325749&utm_sf_post_ref=655505166&fbclid=IwdGRjcAPcOqFjbGNrA9w6nGV4dG4DYWVtAjExAHNydGMGYXBwX2lkDDM1MDY4NTUzMTcyOAABHp5Y0E4G-VC6ozUMX0bhoZc_5G5vJKqrdHP1_AoBMU_ulKzekPFd5KB5UCUs_aem_GV_p2vfMzibIcMm9lHRahQ

 

[badgerx16]

7 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Again, more good news:

https://www.ft.com/content/ea7db2b6-1824-4ebb-b9ac-1d6693b34c74?utm_sf_cserv_ref=8860325749&utm_sf_post_ref=655505166&fbclid=IwdGRjcAPcOqFjbGNrA9w6nGV4dG4DYWVtAjExAHNydGMGYXBwX2lkDDM1MDY4NTUzMTcyOAABHp5Y0E4G-VC6ozUMX0bhoZc_5G5vJKqrdHP1_AoBMU_ulKzekPFd5KB5UCUs_aem_GV_p2vfMzibIcMm9lHRahQ

 

Posting links to paywalled articles means that we only get to read the headline.

Edited Tuesday at 10:47 by badgerx16

[Farmer Saint]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ceqz1lzdxw1o

Let's see if this is the start of some proper cooperation.

[Farmer Saint]

46 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Posting links to paywalled articles means that we only get to read the headline.

Apologies:

https://archive.ph/19j8U

 

[Lord Duckhunter]

22 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

You have a fairer point on gender as the Tories have had three female PMs

It’s not just that. They’ve had leaders of Asian heritage, black & Jewish (don’t tell Soggy). What have labour had, white men. The only slightly diverse leader they had was Mad Ed, who was a Jew, even that was some 130 years after the Conservatives. Every time the membership get a vote, these “progressives” vote for the white bloke (preferably from North London) 

[hypochondriac]

16 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

It’s not just that. They’ve had leaders of Asian heritage, black & Jewish (don’t tell Soggy). What have labour had, white men. The only slightly diverse leader they had was Mad Ed, who was a Jew, even that was some 130 years after the Conservatives. Every time the membership get a vote, these “progressives” vote for the white bloke (preferably from North London) 

Whilst what you say is true, I'm not a big fan of giving someone praise due to their identity. A black person or an Asian woman can do a crap job or a brilliant job and the fact they are black or Asian or a woman really doesn't figure into the equation.

[Farmer Saint]

4 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

It’s not just that. They’ve had leaders of Asian heritage, black & Jewish (don’t tell Soggy). What have labour had, white men. The only slightly diverse leader they had was Mad Ed, who was a Jew, even that was some 130 years after the Conservatives. Every time the membership get a vote, these “progressives” vote for the white bloke (preferably from North London) 

Cunts are still cunts, no matter the heritage.

[hypochondriac]

54 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Cunts are still cunts, no matter the heritage.

TBF you worded it better than me.

[Lord Duckhunter]

Perhaps labour should abolish their all women shortlists, they’re clearly not getting talented chicks to the top. 
 

Imagine if the Tory party only picked white men to lead them, people wouldn’t be making these excuses. They’d be calling the membership dinosaurs, bigots & sexists for only choosing white men.  

[Farmer Saint]

37 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

TBF you worded it better than me.

I believe it was originally Descartes who said it.

[Farmer Saint]

Inflation up again, due to Tobacco taxes and airfares.

Not sure there is much to see there.

[Sir Ralph]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn408vmxrg8o
 

This is very worrying it was crap before, if this guy gets in backed by the mad lefties we are in for a terrible time. The Labour Party is roundly hated in the country. Bring a more of an unelected lefty in who will bow to back benchers will be crap. Upside is another nail in the coffin of the communist party. 🤣

Edited 3 hours ago by Sir Ralph

[sadoldgit]

51 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn408vmxrg8o
 

This is very worrying it was crap before, if this guy gets in backed by the mad lefties we are in for a terrible time. The Labour Party is roundly hated in the country. Bring a more of an unelected lefty in who will bow to back benchers will be crap. Upside is another nail in the coffin of the communist party. 🤣

You are as clueless as nic. To win the seat he will have to win the by election. “Mad Lefties?” You don’t seem to have a problem with the mad people on the right. Communists? 😂

[Lord Duckhunter]

I’m sure Soggy has plenty to say about “the king of the north” promising his voters he’d serve a full term as mayor  and wouldn’t be heading to Westminster .

[badgerx16]

3 hours ago, Sir Ralph said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn408vmxrg8o
 

This is very worrying it was crap before, if this guy gets in backed by the mad lefties we are in for a terrible time. The Labour Party is roundly hated in the country. Bring a more of an unelected lefty in who will bow to back benchers will be crap. Upside is another nail in the coffin of the communist party. 🤣

All parties are coalitions and all have their moderate and less so branches.  I suppose you have forgotten Truss and Kwarteng, let alone the ERG and other nutters in the Tory ranks.

If Burnham gets selected, and then reaches Westminster he WILL have been elected, juat as he was as Mayor. You do understand how elections work, don't you ?