The Starmer Years - Can The New Broom Sweep Clean?

[egg]

2 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Deflects from Starmer's problems and gives him a chance to look decisive.

Yep. Agreed. 

[Farmer Saint]

29 minutes ago, whelk said:

It’s all mental - news cycle obsessed with it, man with no political power says something mildly offensive, PM responds and demands an apology and so everyone jumps on it, everyone asked for quotes, man apologises, man must be investigated. 

Feels like Starmer looking to shift the focus TBH with you.

[LuckyNumber7]

5 hours ago, whelk said:

FWIW as a screaming leftie I do think what Jim was trying to say does resonate with many - not teh specific wording. Easy capitalist bogey man but you can’t have 9 million people on benefits. And immigration has been stupidly high and is affecting communities.

Akin to Gordon Brown calling that woman a racist. 

Welcome to the far right.

[sadoldgit]

“Jim” makes Reform noises and gets jumped on. Break out the world’s smallest violin.

Apparently his “colonisation” of Monaco is saving him some £4b in taxes. Just think what the NHS could do with that.

Meanwhile he is trying to get more of our money to shore up his businesses. No sympathy from me. He brought the grief on himself.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/sep/25/sir-jim-ratcliffe-uks-richest-person-moves-to-tax-free-monaco-brexit-ineos-domicile

[AlexLaw76]

9 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

“Jim” makes Reform noises and gets jumped on. Break out the world’s smallest violin.

Apparently his “colonisation” of Monaco is saving him some £4b in taxes. Just think what the NHS could do with that.

Meanwhile he is trying to get more of our money to shore up his businesses. No sympathy from me. He brought the grief on himself.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/sep/25/sir-jim-ratcliffe-uks-richest-person-moves-to-tax-free-monaco-brexit-ineos-domicile

I wonder if those emigrating to Monaco are an immediate drain on the public purse?

Meanwhile, on immigrant island.....

[Sir Ralph]

2 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

“Jim” makes Reform noises and gets jumped on. Break out the world’s smallest violin.

Apparently his “colonisation” of Monaco is saving him some £4b in taxes. Just think what the NHS could do with that.

Meanwhile he is trying to get more of our money to shore up his businesses. No sympathy from me. He brought the grief on himself.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/sep/25/sir-jim-ratcliffe-uks-richest-person-moves-to-tax-free-monaco-brexit-ineos-domicile

From a personal perspective he will have paid multiple times in tax more than any of us ever will. Why would he want to pay more tax here when he just explained that the welfare bill is too high.

Maybe if those who blamed others for not paying more than they already do, had worked harder and taken risks they could have contributed more. 

Edited 8 hours ago by Sir Ralph

[The Kraken]

Yeah I don’t really have a problem with someone having a go at Brexit Jim. The geezer has used his platform to push a narrative that we’d be stronger outside of the EU, including immigration, and he’s been proved wrong. Like Dyson, the bloke deserves any flak he gets. Cry me a river in your tax free haven.

[Turkish]

17 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

You supported what Ratcliffe said which was partly lies and partly disingenuous. You seem to get your ing

formation from Trump, his administration, Musk, Farage and his cronies. Where in the UK are there areas that are not run by democratically elected officials. Starmer, Burnham and anyone who opposes racist rhetoric stuck their noses in as you put it because Ratcliffe was taking the same bollocks that Farage talks.

The use of words like invasion and colonisation are what gives the motive away. You are no different, along with the laughing emoji nic. 

Funny isn’t it. When Brits go abroad and settle and take their full English breakfasts and fish n chip shops with them they are called ex Pats not immigrants and you don’t hear complaints about them not learning the language or integrating. Maybe because we have a previous history of Imperialism/colonisation?

If you want to talk about integration then do so. Don’t use the same language used by proven racists and pretend you mean something different.
 

What Ratcliffe said was just clumsy language, no?

[Turkish]

10 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

“Jim” makes Reform noises and gets jumped on. Break out the world’s smallest violin.

Apparently his “colonisation” of Monaco is saving him some £4b in taxes. Just think what the NHS could do with that.

Meanwhile he is trying to get more of our money to shore up his businesses. No sympathy from me. He brought the grief on himself.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/sep/25/sir-jim-ratcliffe-uks-richest-person-moves-to-tax-free-monaco-brexit-ineos-domicile

I’m sure he’s devastated 😂😂

[AlexLaw76]

All very woke with the FA 'investigating' his comments...we have an owner in the premier league that had a journalist chopped up with a bone saw...but that is fine.