Solving the Immigration Problem

[rallyboy]

Thankfully the plucky patriots are on it, saving us from the invasion - and while they're out their protecting us it means a few more women are safe from a beating tonight.

But if you were fleeing a warzone and ended up in pompey, you're a fucking mug.

[Osvaldorama]

Pompey
Brighton 
Weymouth 
Dover
Southampton
 

all with big boats arriving. 
 

glad people are finally kicking off. Enough is enough. 

[hypochondriac]

Imagine arriving in Portsmouth and that being your first impression of the UK. They would be desperate after that 

Edited 12 hours ago by hypochondriac

[Weston Super Saint]

You couldn't make it up with those inbred mutants though!

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Police faced off with hundreds of protesters in Portsmouth, in the second large-scale anti-migrant protest of the weekend.

Demonstrators blocked roads and tried to prevent around 140 migrants, who had crossed the English Channel in a single dinghy, from leaving the city.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cje8lwzjz5lo

Not sure they've truly grasped the 'not in my back yard' mantra!  

Seems like the migrants were desperate to get out of there though and who can blame them!

[Turkish]

11 hours ago, Osvaldorama said:

Kicking off in Pompey harbour. 
 

Seems like people have finally had enough 

Came straight after the news an Iraqi man of no fixed abode charged with raping a 14 year old girl in Portsmouth 

Edited 5 hours ago by Turkish

[AlexLaw76]

5 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Came starting after the news an Iraqi man of no fixed abode charged with raping a 14 year old girl in Portsmouth 

stop being a gammon and just put up with it.

 

[bpsaint]

8 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Came starting after the news an Iraqi man of no fixed abode charged with raping a 14 year old girl in Portsmouth 

Obviously didn’t read his leaflet the poor Iraqi.

[Turkish]

8 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

stop being a gammon and just put up with it.

 

I know you jest but this is a big part of the problem the narrative will be that these people are racist, there will no doubt be counter protest but United Against Facism and the like, the only surprise Is its taken so long for this to happen, it was inevitable with the government unwilling or unable to do anything.
 

I’m sure there will be lots of replies now about what should they do, English people rape people as well and so on.

[AlexLaw76]

2 minutes ago, Turkish said:

I know you jest but this is a big part of the problem the narrative will be that these people are racist, there will no doubt be counter protest but United Against Facism and the like, the only surprise Is its taken so long for this to happen, it was inevitable with the government unwilling or unable to do anything.
 

I’m sure there will be lots of replies now about what should they do, English people rape people as well and so on.

Maybe the local skates were there to give out leaflets, asking those on the boats (kindly) not to rape their kids? They had a long journey and probably not thinking straight. It must be so cruel on them

I think we are jumping to conclusions about anything more sinister than that. 

[whelk]

39 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Came straight after the news an Iraqi man of no fixed abode charged with raping a 14 year old girl in Portsmouth 

Link?

[Turkish]

3 minutes ago, whelk said:

Link?

https://www.hampshire.police.uk/news/hampshire/news/news/2026/september/man-charged-with-offences-including-rape-and-stalking-in-portsmouth

It was actually a 14 year old boy

Edited 4 hours ago by Turkish

[whelk]

3 minutes ago, Turkish said:

https://www.hampshire.police.uk/news/hampshire/news/news/2026/september/man-charged-with-offences-including-rape-and-stalking-in-portsmouth

It was actually a 14 year old boy

Vile cunt

[Willo of Whiteley]

9 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

Imagine arriving in Portsmouth and that being your first impression of the UK. They would be desperate after that 

I imagine a few of them got back on the boat and left after that 

[AlexLaw76]

I'd jump straight back in the sea if I risked my life just for a bit of this

[Osvaldorama]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

https://www.hampshire.police.uk/news/hampshire/news/news/2026/september/man-charged-with-offences-including-rape-and-stalking-in-portsmouth

It was actually a 14 year old boy

It’s constant. 
 

Lefty’s and media pretend that people are racist.. no, the crime statistics around these boat arrivals are absolutely fucking harrowing and it’s a disgrace that they are being welcomed in. 
 

Anyone that is still burying their head in the sand about it is a part of the problem. 

[badgerx16]

20 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

It’s constant. 
 

Lefty’s and media pretend that people are racist.. no, the crime statistics around these boat arrivals are absolutely fucking harrowing and it’s a disgrace that they are being welcomed in. 
 

Anyone that is still burying their head in the sand about it is a part of the problem. 

Is there any evidence, other than apocryphal, that the rate of crime carried out by immigrants is proportionately higher than for the general population ? I do suspect that the level at which it is reported is higher.

Edited 2 hours ago by badgerx16

[hypochondriac]

1 hour ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

I imagine a few of them got back on the boat and left after that 

Fuck that. I'd be jumping in the sea and swimming.

[Farmer Saint]

56 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

It’s constant. 
 

Lefty’s and media pretend that people are racist.. no, the crime statistics around these boat arrivals are absolutely fucking harrowing and it’s a disgrace that they are being welcomed in. 
 

Anyone that is still burying their head in the sand about it is a part of the problem. 

Two things can be true. 

At what point are these people being "welcomed in"? I'm not sure anyone is happy about this. 

[egg]

34 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Is there any evidence, other than apocryphal, that the rate of crime carried out by immigrants is proportionately higher than for the general population ? I do suspect that the level at which it is reported is higher.

Indeed. I don't know that it is, although it doesn't alter that there's no easy solution.

The French all but escorted that Pompey boat into our waters. What were then supposed to do with it? In practical terms, what could and would a Nigel run country have done? What do the protesters expect?

[Farmer Saint]

37 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Is there any evidence, other than apocryphal, that the rate of crime carried out by immigrants is proportionately higher than for the general population ? I do suspect that the level at which it is reported is higher.

I'm interested to see the demographics on it, as we know a lot of these are economic migrants of a certain age. We need to ensure we are comparing to same age groups to get a proper comparison.

[Turkish]

10 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Two things can be true. 

At what point are these people being "welcomed in"? I'm not sure anyone is happy about this. 

But one of the points here is no one is happy about it, the government are unwilling or unable to do anything but if people take it into their own hands they're accused of racism. So Dells Days point in jest is actually true, stop being a gammon and take it or you'll be told you're racist. 

[badgerx16]

The Channel coastline under a Reform Government ?

Edited 1 hour ago by badgerx16

[Osvaldorama]

39 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Two things can be true. 

At what point are these people being "welcomed in"? I'm not sure anyone is happy about this. 

 

They literally wait with buses, clothes, all sorts. 
 

The trafficking gangs have adverts showing how much free stuff they get from our government. 
 

They absolutely are being welcomed in. 

[tdmickey3]

28 minutes ago, Turkish said:

But one of the points here is no one is happy about it, the government are unwilling or unable to do anything but if people take it into their own hands they're accused of racism. So Dells Days point in jest is actually true, stop being a gammon and take it or you'll be told you're racist. 

All true of course but what are these protesters "taking into their own hands" apart from disrupting the port and smashing car windows

Edited 1 hour ago by tdmickey3

[Osvaldorama]

2 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

All true of course but what are these protesters "taking into their own hands" apart from disrupting the port and smashing car windows

What are people supposed to do, when the government gaslights them? 
 

Rhiannon Whyte’s sister was there in support last night - she was stabbed over 20 times by an unvetted migrant  

Trying to pretend these are all far right thugs doesn’t wash anymore. This is concerned working people who have had enough of rising criminality. 

And yes - the invasion is planned and organized. Our government are not tackling illegals, they are ferrying them into our communities on coaches under the cover of darkness. It is an entire industry and operation. Everything they say on television and in parliament - is literally a demonstrable & evident lie.

 

Until it stops, what other choices do people have?

[tdmickey3]

2 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

What are people supposed to do, when the government gaslights them? 
 

Rhiannon Whyte’s sister was there in support last night - she was stabbed over 20 times by an unvetted migrant  

Trying to pretend these are all far right thugs doesn’t wash anymore. This is concerned working people who have had enough of rising criminality. 

And yes - the invasion is planned and organized. Our government are not tackling illegals, they are ferrying them into our communities on coaches under the cover of darkness. It is an entire industry and operation. Everything they say on television and in parliament - is literally a demonstrable & evident lie.

 

Until it stops, what other choices do people have?

Some of the points you make are good but some are such nonsense.

The underlined bit is tragic and disgusting and is rightly called out but why are there no protests when non immigrants citizens do it?

The stuff in bold is absolute crap.

Violence against the police (who are just doing there job) and innocent people , smashing car windows, setting fire to bins and innocent bystanders houses.

[egg]

9 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

What are people supposed to do, when the government gaslights them? 
 

Rhiannon Whyte’s sister was there in support last night - she was stabbed over 20 times by an unvetted migrant  

Trying to pretend these are all far right thugs doesn’t wash anymore. This is concerned working people who have had enough of rising criminality. 

And yes - the invasion is planned and organized. Our government are not tackling illegals, they are ferrying them into our communities on coaches under the cover of darkness. It is an entire industry and operation. Everything they say on television and in parliament - is literally a demonstrable & evident lie.

 

Until it stops, what other choices do people have?

The Pompey boat, explain what should have been done with it/it's passengers. 

We all know the problem. What's the solution? Realistically - not a Nigel "send the boats back" unrealistic one. 

[Osvaldorama]

Just now, egg said:

The Pompey boat, explain what should have been done with it/it's passengers. 

We all know the problem. What's the solution? Realistically - not a Nigel "send the boats back" unrealistic one. 

It shouldn’t have been allowed to leave from France, in the first instance.

There is so, so much that could be done, that it’s a baffling question to even start to answer. 
 

On a sliding scale from 1-10 where 1 is free-for-all, unsafe borders that incentivises criminals, and 10 is the most secure border where all attempts are sunk, we are currently at a 1. 

Our government and NGOs actively encourage it at this point, endangering us all. 

[RedArmy]

Not sure I’ve ever seen such an obvious plant/informant as that skate Danny Tommo. 

[tdmickey3]

4 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

It shouldn’t have been allowed to leave from France, in the first instance.

There is so, so much that could be done, that it’s a baffling question to even start to answer. 
 

On a sliding scale from 1-10 where 1 is free-for-all, unsafe borders that incentivises criminals, and 10 is the most secure border where all attempts are sunk, we are currently at a 1. 

Our government and NGOs actively encourage it at this point, endangering us all. 

Please enlighten us? if there is so, so much that can be done, at least give some suggestions, sensible ones only please

[egg]

9 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

It shouldn’t have been allowed to leave from France, in the first instance.

Yes, but it did. That's a problem, not a solution. 

There is so, so much that could be done, that it’s a baffling question to even start to answer. 
Explain...you've come up with nothing so far, just complaints. 

On a sliding scale from 1-10 where 1 is free-for-all, unsafe borders that incentivises criminals, and 10 is the most secure border where all attempts are sunk, we are currently at a 1. 

Our government and NGOs actively encourage it at this point, endangering us all. 

Relevant points addressed...the main point is that you can't identify a solution either. 

[Osvaldorama]

3 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

Please enlighten us? if there is so, so much that can be done, at least give some suggestions, sensible ones only please

 

Going after the traffickers, being tough on France, implementing deterrents, detention centres, sending them back, properly vetting people when they arrive, sending them elsewhere , etc etc 

Just fucking absurdly loads of stuff which would have been common sense only a couple of decades ago. 
 

Instead we have to listen to cretins like you who pretend there’s nothing that can be done, when actually there is just a lack of will to do anything to protect us, and a treasonous dereliction of duty from countless faceless bureaucrats 

[Turkish]

4 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

Please enlighten us? if there is so, so much that can be done, at least give some suggestions, sensible ones only please

this is how the Italians dealt with it

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/2002535/italy-completely-stops-migrant-boats

 

as I said above thought this question always comes up no one has the answers but then we aren’t elected politicians to come up with solving what it clearly a huge issue 

 

 

 

[whelk]

1 hour ago, Farmer Saint said:

I'm interested to see the demographics on it, as we know a lot of these are economic migrants of a certain age. We need to ensure we are comparing to same age groups to get a proper comparison.

It’s not about comparative stats though. In absolute terms there are more crimes due to more immigrants and consequently more victims. What also boils my piss as well is lack of respect for parking regulations too - and yes I am judging on skin colour and aware many other white British scumbags park in disabled bays etc.and many immigrants are respectful and obedient to our laws. Feels like a hell of lot of the organised crime types around who don’t have honest jobs and park anywhere with no consequences. 

[Osvaldorama]

It’s just a steady decline into a low trust society due to importing so many criminals  

The entire system for legal migration is a scam at this point too:

 

 

And yet people still want to pretend that there are no issues, I don’t get it, I really don’t. 
 

How much of a crime addled, poverty-ridden shithole does the country have to become before people think “there’s a problem” 

[egg]

1 minute ago, Osvaldorama said:

 

Going after the traffickers, being tough on France, implementing deterrents, detention centres, sending them back, properly vetting people when they arrive, sending them elsewhere , etc etc 

Just fucking absurdly loads of stuff which would have been common sense only a couple of decades ago. 
 

Instead we have to listen to cretins like you who pretend there’s nothing that can be done, when actually there is just a lack of will to do anything to protect us, and a treasonous dereliction of duty from countless faceless bureaucrats 

Let's break that down. 

Traffickers. So put plod on the ground in foreign countries? Unrealistic. 

Tough on France. How? Realistically..

Deterrents. Example?

Detention centre. In principle, yep, but everyone will moan about where they go, and the cost. 

Send them back. Where they came from last or first? How do we make, France for example, take them? 

Vetting people. They'll say what the script is, but that doesn't stop the arrival anyway. 

Sending elsewhere. Rwanda mark 2. Who'll have them? 

"Cretins". Grow up. Everyone knows theres a problem, and a person highlighting that there's no easy / enforceable solution makes them realistic, not a cretin. 

[egg]

1 minute ago, Osvaldorama said:

It’s just a steady decline into a low trust society due to importing so many criminals  

The entire system for legal migration is a scam at this point too:

 

 

And yet people still want to pretend that there are no issues, I don’t get it, I really don’t. 
 

How much of a crime addled, poverty-ridden shithole does the country have to become before people think “there’s a problem” 

I'm not sure who on here doesn't after there's a problem. The issue is you think there's an easy solution, which there isn't. 

[hypochondriac]

13 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

Please enlighten us? if there is so, so much that can be done, at least give some suggestions, sensible ones only please

I think you're right that there's a lot we can't do within existing laws but there is a lot we could be doing to improve the situation. As a minimum I would change the law so that anyone who comes over on a small boat is committing a criminal act and absolutely no one will be able to settle here if they have come via that route. I'd be putting a lot more pressure on countries where these people have come from to take back their citizens. Political and financial pressures to comply.

[hypochondriac]

Legal migration is a much greater problem than the illegal stuff anyway.

Edited 43 minutes ago by hypochondriac

[Farmer Saint]

9 minutes ago, Turkish said:

this is how the Italians dealt with it

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/2002535/italy-completely-stops-migrant-boats

 

as I said above thought this question always comes up no one has the answers but then we aren’t elected politicians to come up with solving what it clearly a huge issue 

 

 

 

Not being funny, we've cut it by nearly half? What's the difference?

[Osvaldorama]

5 minutes ago, egg said:

I'm not sure who on here doesn't after there's a problem. The issue is you think there's an easy solution, which there isn't. 

There ARE easy solutions. 
 

As above, Italy are tackling it. 
 

Nayib Bukele in El Salvador went tough on crime and turned it from the most dangerous country in the world to one of the safest in a few years. 
 

Of course there are solutions. People in power are just to weak and lazy to do anything. We don’t even do the bare minimum here. 

Edited 39 minutes ago by Osvaldorama

[Farmer Saint]

2 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I think you're right that there's a lot we can't do within existing laws but there is a lot we could be doing to improve the situation. As a minimum I would change the law so that anyone who comes over on a small boat is committing a criminal act and absolutely no one will be able to settle here if they have come via that route. I'd be putting a lot more pressure on countries where these people have come from to take back their citizens. Political and financial pressures to comply.

This is one of my main ways to stop it - allow applications from abroad and add that law and it should stop people making that journey.

[whelk]

It is funny how people choose to ignore anything that is being done to tackle it. Not nearly enough IMO but such bs spouted by the usual conspiracy nuts as they think it is someone’s purposeful plan. Double the customs and border staff and the double the police force and put taxes up

[egg]

5 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I think you're right that there's a lot we can't do within existing laws but there is a lot we could be doing to improve the situation. As a minimum I would change the law so that anyone who comes over on a small boat is committing a criminal act and absolutely no one will be able to settle here if they have come via that route. I'd be putting a lot more pressure on countries where these people have come from to take back their citizens. Political and financial pressures to comply.

At last a sensible contribution. Where are people held though after arrival? Detention centre with basic needs met? I'd have no issue with that. 

[Osvaldorama]

6 minutes ago, whelk said:

It is funny how people choose to ignore anything that is being done to tackle it. Not nearly enough IMO but such bs spouted by the usual conspiracy nuts as they think it is someone’s purposeful plan. Double the customs and border staff and the double the police force and put taxes up

Keep burying your head in the sand pal 

[Farmer Saint]

6 minutes ago, egg said:

At last a sensible contribution. Where are people held though after arrival? Detention centre with basic needs met? I'd have no issue with that. 

That's effectively what we have now anyway.

It would take a long time, a lot of money and a huge amount of space to build a specific centre to deal with 30k people.

Edited 31 minutes ago by Farmer Saint

[Gloucester Saint]

10 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

This is one of my main ways to stop it - allow applications from abroad and add that law and it should stop people making that journey.

Yep, Suella Braverman was the main culprit behind the spike in small boats, which has now halved, by her cutting off legal routes to apply from overseas, and relying on the preposterous and expensive Rwanda fig leaf which would have made only 2-3% difference for an enormous outlay. Her Border Force cuts led to an unprecedented backlog of cases. What a fucking moron she is.

Add in an automatic rejection for coming on a small boat (we know they’re economic migrants which aren’t in areas we need) and that will see a further decline in volumes and further cut off the smuggling gangs opportunities on top of the boat engine seizures, arrests and imprisonments. 

Edited 30 minutes ago by Gloucester Saint

[whelk]

1 minute ago, Osvaldorama said:

Keep burying your head in the sand pal 

How’s your net worth pal?

11 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

People in power are just to weak

too - guess wasn’t your education that made you your millions. Scrap metal?

[Farmer Saint]

Or, rejoin the EU and take on the Euro. See how much people really care about illegal migration.

I'd be happy with that, I've got €87 left from Greece I need to use.

[Turkish]

15 minutes ago, egg said:

Let's break that down. 

Traffickers. So put plod on the ground in foreign countries? Unrealistic. 

Tough on France. How? Realistically..

Deterrents. Example?

Detention centre. In principle, yep, but everyone will moan about where they go, and the cost. 

Send them back. Where they came from last or first? How do we make, France for example, take them? 

Vetting people. They'll say what the script is, but that doesn't stop the arrival anyway. 

Sending elsewhere. Rwanda mark 2. Who'll have them? 

"Cretins". Grow up. Everyone knows theres a problem, and a person highlighting that there's no easy / enforceable solution makes them realistic, not a cretin. 

This is exactly my point and its been going round in circle for years on here😂

People ask what the solution is and then whatever is suggested people immediately say its unrealistic, not workable etc

Its a completely pointless discussion.