Thedelldays Posted 28 January, 2009 Share Posted 28 January, 2009 Just asking a question to those who hace seen recent games...reading post match comments many people say lallana has been ineffective and/or a burden in wide positions as he "drifts in" and offers no defensive cover in his position leaving inexperienced full backs exposed.. interesting to hear contrasting comments about sagga last night saying he defended from the front, something lallana AND DMG dont offer and it showed and turned the game.. would we dare..(it seems like swearing to many on here) to drop lallana for the good of the team and have a balanced team.. something like this perhaps.. davis james size perry molyneaux bwp surman euell rudi/holmes sagga DMG you get my drift...more of a balanced shape..I know BWP is not the best, but he does work the channels etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West End Saint Posted 28 January, 2009 Share Posted 28 January, 2009 Lallana is a fantastic talent and a good prospect but at the moment I think his place is on the bench coming on and making a impact his final ball and shooting have been a big disapointment also he tends to wander all over looking for the ball leaving us short when defending his time will come but not in the midst of a relegation battle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonsaint1604 Posted 28 January, 2009 Share Posted 28 January, 2009 I agree, he is a talented player but hasn't been very effective this season and we need a bit more clout in midfield. He'd be more use as an impact sub I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 28 January, 2009 Share Posted 28 January, 2009 Just asking a question to those who hace seen recent games...reading post match comments many people say lallana has been ineffective and/or a burden in wide positions as he "drifts in" and offers no defensive cover in his position leaving inexperienced full backs exposed.. interesting to hear contrasting comments about sagga last night saying he defended from the front, something lallana AND DMG dont offer and it showed and turned the game.. would we dare..(it seems like swearing to many on here) to drop lallana for the good of the team and have a balanced team.. something like this perhaps.. davis james size perry molyneaux bwp surman euell rudi/holmes sagga DMG you get my drift...more of a balanced shape..I know BWP is not the best, but he does work the channels etc.. That would be the team I would pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 28 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 28 January, 2009 That would be the team I would pick. to me...that is pretty much the best team...it has more experience and in BWP and rudi..we have people who either work hard and/or know how to defend.... more importantly...experince down the spine of the team.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 28 January, 2009 Share Posted 28 January, 2009 I'd give him a spell on the bench. He would be a great impact sub if we need a goal and also a great player to bring on if we just need to hold on to a lead. We need to play 4-4-2 imo and if we are going to use Lallana in a 4-4-2 he either needs to be more disciplined on the right or we need to play him in the middle alongside a bruiser like Wotton which isn't ideal because you end up with Schneiderlin and Surman on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 28 January, 2009 Share Posted 28 January, 2009 That would be the team I would pick. Not bad. A pity we haven't got Dyer who is much better than BWP on the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 28 January, 2009 Share Posted 28 January, 2009 to me...that is pretty much the best team...it has more experience and in BWP and rudi..we have people who either work hard and/or know how to defend.... more importantly...experince down the spine of the team.. Plenty of options on the bench to change the game as well. The only change I would make would be Wotton in midfield instead of Euell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 28 January, 2009 Share Posted 28 January, 2009 Lallana is our Ole Gunnar Solskjær type super sub (but without the goals of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkiesaint Posted 28 January, 2009 Share Posted 28 January, 2009 agree with you 100% about lallana. don't see how you can leave out schneiderlin if he is fit though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 28 January, 2009 Share Posted 28 January, 2009 It is not easy being a coach is it? As there are a lot of midfielders with similar abilities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 28 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 28 January, 2009 agree with you 100% about lallana. don't see how you can leave out schneiderlin if he is fit though. but that is it..we have a decent team if set up in a balanced way...with good, talanted options on the bench not world beaters but better than where we are IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 28 January, 2009 Share Posted 28 January, 2009 Not bad. A pity we haven't got Dyer who is much better than BWP on the right. We can always recall him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 28 January, 2009 Share Posted 28 January, 2009 to me...that is pretty much the best team...it has more experience and in BWP and rudi..we have people who either work hard and/or know how to defend.... more importantly...experince down the spine of the team.. I would rather have Rudi at LB, Molyneux is awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 28 January, 2009 Share Posted 28 January, 2009 agree with you 100% about lallana. don't see how you can leave out schneiderlin if he is fit though. Based on the last performance where he never tackled in the whole game or even got his shirt dirty I think we need a bit more steel in the middle than Morgan offers at the moment. I know Wotton is not everyones cup of tea but Wotton and Euell in the centre against Sheff Utd would be worth a go to combat their different style than Swansea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 28 January, 2009 Share Posted 28 January, 2009 We can always recall him. don't think we can, on their site they were saying want to sign him this window permanently rather to lose him to someone else in summer but at least they have him definately for this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 28 January, 2009 Share Posted 28 January, 2009 Please note the "definitely with us until the end of the season" comment - which should clear this question up I would have thought . http://www.thisissouthwales.co.uk/sport/Swans-keen-make-Dyer-s-switch-permanent/article-645208-detail/article.html that was the one I read earlier (thanks CEC from the other thread) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 28 January, 2009 Share Posted 28 January, 2009 I'm sure it'll only be a matter of time before our forum resident technical tactician who was bullied at school by Adam's dad will tell us of Lallana's inability to play wide right, keeps coming inside, can't pass, doesn't work for the team (are you all still awake?) blah-de-blah. Of course he will quote his 5M swimming badge to endorse his view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 28 January, 2009 Share Posted 28 January, 2009 Just asking a question to those who hace seen recent games...reading post match comments many people say lallana has been ineffective and/or a burden in wide positions as he "drifts in" and offers no defensive cover in his position leaving inexperienced full backs exposed.. nteresting to hear contrasting comments about sagga last night saying he defended from the front, something lallana AND DMG dont offer and it showed and turned the game.. would we dare..(it seems like swearing to many on here) to drop lallana for the good of the team and have a balanced team..something like this perhaps.. davis james size perry molyneaux bwp surman euell rudi/holmes sagga DMG you get my drift...more of a balanced shape..I know BWP is not the best, but he does work the channels etc.. To "drop " him sounds like a punishment and that's not fair to say. No-one (who hadn't seen him in Reserve games) knew who he was until last April, and his subs. goal v. West Brom was piece of quality finishing a lot of pro's would have been proud of. However, he's still young and a couple of dozen games doesn't decide his career future. We should be grateful to JP for letting these lads play a higher class of football........but look back in your In That Number.....and see... Almost all of our good youth players, way back to Chivers and Channon ..and a lot in between ..Stokes, Moran, and MLT, rarely made it into the first team and stayed. We hear fans quoting Alan Shearers wonderful hat-trick v. Arsenal at the Dell (when he was 18)..but they quickly forget that it was almost 2 years before Shearer even got more than half a season in the first side, and his real "glory time" was his last season before moving to Blackburn. Lallana looks a good player, but I really think a few reserve matches wouldn't hurt him at all, and he can get back his goal-form and some confidence. He's been out injured, and has to come back into a side threatened with relegation (!). You can't expect young lads to turn it on every week in those circumstances. For the next month, at least we should bolster up the side with the older heads, and let Lallana and Co. come on for the last 30 mins. and liven up the game - not put them under pressure from the first whistle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 28 January, 2009 Share Posted 28 January, 2009 Lallana has been playing right wing. That is why he may not have been tracking back - thats not his job. If you say it is his job let me point out that Holmes never tracks back ever. As a right midfielder his responsibilities will change and I expect him to do that job. He is a real talent and he works hard. He needs to be in the side. I agree he always comes inside. So long as the left sided player gets to the byeline it won't hurt us too much in a 4-4-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1Minus10 Posted 28 January, 2009 Share Posted 28 January, 2009 I would rather play Lallana in a ****ing blindfold than play BWP on the right of midfield. I see your point about him but if instructed properly and made aware of his role, he'd be fine. The JP ****y formation didn;t require the wingers to track back (evidently) which is one of the main reasons it was shiit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 28 January, 2009 Share Posted 28 January, 2009 For me he's a young 20, in that when Rooney was about 16 he looked and played like a 28 yo bloke, Adam is much more slight and still needs to be nurtured and developed. Have no problem with him being rested, played only for specific matches where he can make a difference or being used as an impact sub. IMHO he's got the talent and we should be nurturing him. One of my main worries with this "Revolutionary Coaching Set Up" was the potential negative impact it would have on some of our youngsters as they dropped in at the deep end and exposed before some of them were ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 28 January, 2009 Share Posted 28 January, 2009 One of my main worries with this "Revolutionary Coaching Set Up" was the potential negative impact it would have on some of our youngsters as they dropped in at the deep end and exposed before some of them were ready. Exactly what I said about Paterson who I rate but think after the United game will have been set back months. Like Gobern were far too inexperienced to be thrown in and needed nurturing a bit more. We have some very good young players but to totally rely on them this season was madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ribbo Posted 28 January, 2009 Share Posted 28 January, 2009 Exactly what I said about Paterson who I rate but think after the United game will have been set back months. Like Gobern were far too inexperienced to be thrown in and needed nurturing a bit more. We have some very good young players but to totally rely on them this season was madness. and Olly, Jamie White both started well but take a few knocks mentally and you go within yourself and it harms future potential, the same could happen to Mclaggon, these guys could be excellent players for us in the future, but need to be nutured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 29 January, 2009 Share Posted 29 January, 2009 I don't rate Lallana, he just does the same thing over and over again and has no end product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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