The Reform Thread

[sadoldgit]

22 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

How many hundred members are there on here ? It would be a miracle if there weren't any.

Exactly.

[Turkish]

4 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

I first instance I can recall of you being attacked was when you were very forward in your views regarding those who may have questioned the Ched Evans initial judgement (whilst having nothing of the sort to say about your hero, Geoffrey Boycott). 

All people did at the time, was conduct a little bit of research in the Ched Evans case and believed there was more to it. You were having none of it, calling people rape apologists, misogynists, and all sorts of other disgusting stuff. You claimed that you were important in the CPS and this was a closed case.

Did not turn out that way did it. 

Ever since then, anyone who may hold a right of centre view is some sort of mad racist, according to you

The first time SOG can on my radar was during the BLM stuff. Despite plenty of videos on TV of violence and reports of mass arrests he point blank refused to admit there was any, because the guardian hadn’t reported it 😂😂

When stuff was shared on here he claimed it was all okay as all for a good cause and was largely peaceful as it was a minority of people arrested. When it was pointed out that actually attacking police, smashing up London and over 200 arrests was actually a major disruption a went nuts accusing anyone of saying anything against it all as being far right 

since then his obsession with labelling everyone one and all things far right has been in overdrive. Very odd guy 

[hypochondriac]

5 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Exactly.

Given the amount of posters on here, it would be a miracle if there weren't some jew haters too.

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, Turkish said:

The first time SOG can on my radar was during the BLM stuff. Despite plenty of videos on TV of violence and reports of mass arrests he point blank refused to admit there was any, because the guardian hadn’t reported it 😂😂

When stuff was shared on here he claimed it was all okay as all for a good cause and was largely peaceful as it was a minority of people arrested. When it was pointed out that actually attacking police, smashing up London and over 200 arrests was actually a major disruption a went nuts accusing anyone of saying anything against it all as being far right 

since then his obsession with labelling everyone one and all things far right has been in overdrive. Very odd guy 

"Largely Peaceful"

yeah, that was a good'un

[hypochondriac]

8 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

I first instance I can recall of you being attacked was when you were very forward in your views regarding those who may have questioned the Ched Evans initial judgement (whilst having nothing of the sort to say about your hero, Geoffrey Boycott). 

All people did at the time, was conduct a little bit of research in the Ched Evans case and believed there was more to it. You were having none of it, calling people rape apologists, misogynists, and all sorts of other disgusting stuff. You claimed that you were important in the CPS and this was a closed case.

Did not turn out that way did it. 

Ever since then, anyone who may hold a right of centre view is some sort of mad racist, according to you

He also said the Nazis were Christians because they had Christian belt buckles and that we definitely shouldn't have attacked Islamic state and should instead have negotiated with them. Box of frogs.

[AlexLaw76]

A more recent moment was when he spent the day researching (ie, searching for opinion pieces) to back up his view that it was OK to say pretty nasty shit to/about Jews as they are not a race...

[Turkish]

11 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

A more recent moment was when he spent the day researching (ie, searching for opinion pieces) to back up his view that it was OK to say pretty nasty shit to/about Jews as they are not a race...

That was a cracker, "i have spent today research Jews, what are they, who are they?" something along those lines

[sadoldgit]

Is this Ralph or nic?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/reform-uk-donation-nigel-farage-christopher-harborne-brexit-b2877908.html#

[badgerx16]

3 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Is this Ralph or nic?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/reform-uk-donation-nigel-farage-christopher-harborne-brexit-b2877908.html#

I wish I has £9M in loose change to piss away.

[Gloucester Saint]

Farage says he doesn’t want anything in return - his previous track record - £1m donation to Boris’s office and a £80m Qinetiq contract awarded in early 2023 says otherwise very loudly. Given £6m to one of Farage’s Brexit-related scams before so not entirely surprising he’s given £9m. Wheels still coming off for Reform.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Harborne

[The Kraken]

9 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

I have been on this forum for 19 years. My posting style has been developed over the years by being constantly attacked by people who have an issue with me attacking people like Trump, Farage, Robinson, Hopkins etc. and their opinions.

Your posting style has been criticised by those on the right, the left and centre. Not that that you know what those terms actually mean. The one true constant is that various people on all sides of politics think that you’re a pretty terrible person, you have proven that time and again. Quite how you have the front to dig others out and claim any sort of moral high ground over anyone is a mystery, yet with you completely unsurprising.

Terrible person.

Edited 22 hours ago by The Kraken

[sadoldgit]

1 hour ago, The Kraken said:

Your posting style has been criticised by those on the right, the left and centre. Not that that you know what those terms actually mean. The one true constant is that various people on all sides of politics think that you’re a pretty terrible person, you have proven that time and again. Quite how you have the front to dig others out and claim any sort of moral high ground over anyone is a mystery, yet with you completely unsurprising.

Terrible person.

Still having a pop after all these years when you did the same on another forum but have forgotten about. I don’t know what I have done to upset you so much but really mate, let it go. Apart from those who liked your post, no one cares. Do yourself a favour and put me on ignore. Hopefully you will have a better Christmas that way.

By the way, the people who criticise me are the same old usual suspects, you being one of them.

Edited 20 hours ago by sadoldgit

[sadoldgit]

I don’t recall the Black and White Minstrels singing about gassing Jews or any other BBC comedians making jokes about gassing Jews back in the 70’s.

https://news.sky.com/story/nigel-farage-launches-tirade-at-bbc-over-allegations-he-was-racist-at-school-13479504

[Turkish]

18 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

I don’t recall the Black and White Minstrels singing about gassing Jews or any other BBC comedians making jokes about gassing Jews back in the 70’s.

https://news.sky.com/story/nigel-farage-launches-tirade-at-bbc-over-allegations-he-was-racist-at-school-13479504

Wonder if he called “them” coconuts?

perhaps we should just dismiss all this as “clumsy language” like we have done to others in the past’

Edited 19 hours ago by Turkish

[hypochondriac]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

Wonder if he called “them” coconuts?

perhaps we should just dismiss all this as “clumsy language” like we have done to others in the past’

Or referred to them as 'a trans'

[rooney]

Whatever happened to Alf Garnett?

[CB Fry]

I miss the old days when the BBC repeatedly torturing itself and apologising/ censoring itself for outdated views on things like It Ain't Alf Hot Mum or the B&W Minstrel Show was derided as namby pampy woke virtual signalling and political correctness gone mad and why can't we just watch what we used to, you can't say nuffing these days because of woke

 

Now apparently we are pretending that the BBC has never apologised at all for old TV shows. And they have to now apologise for it or something

 

Anyway, what was that BBC show that did loads of jokes about gassing the Jews? I can't find it on iPlayer

 

 

Edited 13 hours ago by CB Fry

[whelk]

What drives me mad is that sometimes on programmes there is absolutely no warning about tobacco use. Take a leaf out of the cunts running Prime and Disney+ and give me warning please. How the hell am I expected to explain it to my kids, who are all in their twenties btw

[Weston Super Saint]

8 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

By the way, the people who criticise me are the same old usual suspects, you being one of them.

The 'same old usual suspects' being literally everyone (bar one or two) that post in the lounge.

Sometimes, the issues really aren't 'everyone else'....

[egg]

54 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

The 'same old usual suspects' being literally everyone (bar one or two) that post in the lounge.

Sometimes, the issues really aren't 'everyone else'....

My only comment is that the obsession with the bloke is a tad odd. Seems to pop up on multiple threads. 

[Weston Super Saint]

8 minutes ago, egg said:

My only comment is that the obsession with the bloke is a tad odd. Seems to pop up on multiple threads. 

Most people were happy with his self imposed exile and threads were certainly a lot more civilised.

I guess his persona just can't help himself when posting stuff he knows will get a reaction.

[sadoldgit]

18 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

I wish I has £9M in loose change to piss away.

From Truth Against Hate -

This has aged like fine milk.

Back in 2018, Reform UK Deputy Leader Richard Tice had some thoughts on George Soros donating to UK organisations:

"He doesn't live here. He doesn't pay taxes here. What right has he got to interfere with our democracy?"

Fast forward to today: a Thailand-based crypto billionaire, Chakrit Sakunkrit, also known as Christopher Harborne, has just dropped £9 million into Reform UK. Funny how some rules only apply to certain people.

[badgerx16]

13 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

From Truth Against Hate -

This has aged like fine milk.

Back in 2018, Reform UK Deputy Leader Richard Tice had some thoughts on George Soros donating to UK organisations:

"He doesn't live here. He doesn't pay taxes here. What right has he got to interfere with our democracy?"

Fast forward to today: a Thailand-based crypto billionaire, Chakrit Sakunkrit, also known as Christopher Harborne, has just dropped £9 million into Reform UK. Funny how some rules only apply to certain people.

Christopher Harborne, sometimes known as Chakrit Sakunkrit, is British born and educated but holds dual nationality, having lived n Thailand for 20 years, and still holds a British passport.

George Soros is Hungarian.

Edited 10 hours ago by badgerx16

[Gloucester Saint]

2 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Christopher Harborne, sometimes known as Chakrit Sakunkrit, is British but holds dual nationality, having lived n Thailand for 20 years, and still holds a British passport.

Correct, and he already made a £6m donation to the Brexit Party which didn’t get a lot of publicity at the time and probably the same figure in the value at the time. Only reason its publicised now is that Farage has been at war with some of Laura Kuenssberg’s colleagues about his Glasgow speech with the racist dog whistle, plus the legal threats with his mate Trump, and she’s kissing his arse (or being told to).

Donation isn’t particularly newsworthy but it does prove what a piss poor journalist she is. Wish she’d clear off to the Mail or Telegraph and Beaverbrook group pay her wages rather than us. 

[egg]

39 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Most people were happy with his self imposed exile and threads were certainly a lot more civilised.

I guess his persona just can't help himself when posting stuff he knows will get a reaction.

He invites reaction, and is often invited to react. The "he's obsessed with X or y" is mentioned more than his mentioning of X and y for example. Each to their own, but seems a bit odd that people want to follow an old bloke around a forum. 

[east-stand-nic]

24 minutes ago, egg said:

He invites reaction, and is often invited to react. The "he's obsessed with X or y" is mentioned more than his mentioning of X and y for example. Each to their own, but seems a bit odd that people want to follow an old bloke around a forum. 

As ever, you have this totally arse about face. Have a look (I know you wont) at how many times he mentions me for no reason in his posts (he does it to Turkish and others also). Why does he do this? To get us to react and reply. he wants this. We don't want him. As I say, you wont check as you hate being wrong, but if you do you will see in the last week he has tried to bring me into stuff by mentioning me and I have NOT replied. So who is the one obsessed? Him or us?

So, he does not invite ridicule in his posts? You see, you have made yourself look the cock that you are yet again with your personal bias. You wonder why people get on at him, I prove to you why, you ignore it and say i deserve it and in effect he doesn't. You utter idiot, yet again can only see against a person, not look at the facts. Thick as pig shit. 

Think!

Edited 10 hours ago by east-stand-nic

[egg]

12 minutes ago, east-stand-nic said:

As ever, you have this totally arse about face. Have a look (I know you wont) at how many times he mentions me for no reason in his posts (he does it to Turkish and others also). Why does he do this? To get us to react and reply. he wants this. We don't want him. As I say, you wont check as you hate being wrong, but if you do you will see in the last week he has tried to bring me into stuff by mentioning me and I have NOT replied. So who is the one obsessed? Him or us?

Think!

You rightly invite ridicule from various posters mate. 

[sadoldgit]

14 minutes ago, egg said:

He invites reaction, and is often invited to react. The "he's obsessed with X or y" is mentioned more than his mentioning of X and y for example. Each to their own, but seems a bit odd that people want to follow an old bloke around a forum. 

As opposed to following a young bloke around a forum?

What is odd that some people are obsessed with someone who they claim is obsessed.

They tend to be the same people who go on about “free speech” but if you say something they don’t like they get upset. 

Anyway, if I’m obsessed about anything it is not wanting this country to go down the same road as America and I am certainly not going to apologise for that.
 

[hypochondriac]

45 minutes ago, egg said:

He invites reaction, and is often invited to react. The "he's obsessed with X or y" is mentioned more than his mentioning of X and y for example. Each to their own, but seems a bit odd that people want to follow an old bloke around a forum. 

No one said that in this thread until he brought up Katy Hopkins and Tommy Robinson unprompted. Again.

Edited 9 hours ago by hypochondriac

[egg]

11 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

No one said that in this thread until he brought up Katy Hopkins and Tommy Robinson unprompted. Again.

Chicken/egg. It's not just this thread, but the issue doesn't excite me as much as others so I won't debate it. I just repeat my point that the obsession with him is odd. I'm out. 

[sadoldgit]

4 minutes ago, egg said:

Chicken/egg. It's not just this thread, but the issue doesn't excite me as much as others so I won't debate it. I just repeat my point that the obsession with him is odd. I'm out. 

Those names were brought up because we were discussing the definition of “far right.” It isn’t as if we were discussing our favourite biscuit.

[hypochondriac]

7 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Those names were brought up because we were discussing the definition of “far right.” It isn’t as if we were discussing our favourite biscuit.

You're the only one who ever mentions Hopkins and you've definitely mentioned Tommy Robinson more than anyone else on here. 

[Turkish]

Good question. Based on a quick review of the forum SaintsWeb — particularly its “The Lounge” section — here are the posters who appear to discuss Tommy Robinson (and by extension topics around the far right) most often, and which one stands out as “talks about him most”:

 

🎯 Most prominent poster: sadoldgit

 

• On the thread The Alt‑right Appreciation Thread from October 2018, the opening post by sadoldgit mentions Tommy Robinson.
• On the Tommy Robinson Appreciation Thread (started 9 August 2024) — one of the main threads about Robinson — sadoldgit is listed among frequent posters.
• Their user activity and thread‐creation history (in The Lounge) is substantial, which suggests a high degree of engagement with political / contentious topics.

 

 

Why sadoldgit seems the “most-talking-about-Robinson” poster:

 

• They initiated or contributed to threads explicitly about the far right, alt-right thinking, and Tommy Robinson.
• Their activity appears repeatedly across multiple discussions that mention the far right or related topics.

 

 

• The clearest and most consistent pattern of mentions is from sadoldgit — across multiple different threads over many years.

Based on the posts we were able to review, yes — sadoldgit appears to be the most prominent and most frequent poster discussing Tommy Robinson and far-right topics on SaintsWeb’s “The Lounge.”

 

Why this conclusion is reasonable:

 

• Mentions Robinson across multiple years (not just a single thread).
• Started or engaged heavily in threads explicitly about the far right or Robinson.
• Appears in several unrelated discussions where Robinson comes up, which suggests an ongoing interest in the topic rather than a one-off appearance.
• Other posters (e.g., Turkish, Guided Missile, badgerx16, The Kraken) mostly appear in one main thread (the 2024 Tommy Robinson Appreciation Thread), whereas sadoldgit appears across multiple threads and years.

 

 

So yes, from the available evidence:

👉 sadoldgit is the most prominent poster talking about Tommy Robinson on that forum.

Edited 9 hours ago by Turkish

[hypochondriac]

Posters who most frequently reference Katie Hopkins (based on visible thread patterns)

1. sadoldgit

Easily one of the most common names in any thread involving culture-war figures.
He often references her in discussions about:

• right-wing media

• misinformation

• comparisons with Tommy Robinson

• satire of the “alt-right” ecosystem

• He mentions her a lot, often as an example of extremist commentary.

sadoldgit — almost certainly the most frequent

He regularly refers to Tommy Robinson in debates about:

• far-right activism

• misinformation

• online radicalisation

• comparisons to other extremist figures

• media coverage

He often uses TR as an example when criticising certain political behaviours or arguments.
He appears in virtually every TR-heavy thread.

If you had to pick a single poster who mentions TR the most, it’s him.

 

sadoldgit — almost certainly mentions Farage the most

He is extremely active in:

• Brexit retrospectives

• GB News criticism

• threads about populism

• discussions on political misinformation

• culture-war analysis

Farage comes up constantly as an example of:

• right-wing populism

• grievance politics

• media manipulation

• Brexit campaign tactics

Because SOG posts huge volumes in these threads, he ends up as the most frequent Farage-mentioner on the forum by a wide margin.

[Turkish]

Good question. Based on a spot-check of the forum threads, sadoldgit again seems to be the poster who mentions Nigel Farage the most on the “The Lounge” section of SaintsWeb.

 

Why I say that:

 

• In the “The Reform Thread” — a thread explicitly about Farage/Reform — sadoldgit is the thread-starter and posts repeatedly over many pages.
• On that thread and others, his posts reference “Farage” (or “Nige,” as he sometimes shortens it) multiple times, discussing his politics, controversies, supporters, and critics.
• His user profile shows large overall activity (thousands of replies), and among his recent topics / replies are several about Farage or related topics.

 

 

Other users such as badgerx16, Gloucester Saint, The Kraken, and whelk do mention Farage — sometimes often, sometimes in anger or ridicule.  But none appear to do so as consistently as sadoldgit.

[Turkish]

Good question. I took a look — yes, there are posters on SaintsWeb who mention Donald Trump a lot. Based on a review of the public threads, here’s who seems to mention him most often — and how they compare.

 

 

✅ Posters who cite Trump frequently

 

 

• sadoldgit — Their profile shows multiple recent replies in Donald Trump Appreciation Thread.
• Guided Missile — They started the same “Donald Trump Appreciation Thread” (June 2018).
• The Kraken — Has multiple replies in the Trump thread.
• badgerx16 — Also regularly contributes to the thread discussing Trump.

 

 

 

🎯 Who is “top” – most consistent Trump-mentioner?

 

 

Between them, sadoldgit stands out as likely the single most consistent and frequent – because beyond just contributing once, their profile shows repeated engagement over time in Trump-related discussions.

 

So yes — similar to “Farage” and “Tommy Robinson”, sadoldgit appears to be the poster on SaintsWeb who mentions Trump most often (at least among public threads).

[hypochondriac]

Pretty clear who has the obsession here. 

[egg]

36 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Those names were brought up because we were discussing the definition of “far right.” It isn’t as if we were discussing our favourite biscuit.

The context isn't lost on me, and that others focused on them names after they were mentioned amongst others in that context. 

[tdmickey3]

1 hour ago, east-stand-nic said:

As ever, you have this totally arse about face. Have a look (I know you wont) at how many times he mentions me for no reason in his posts (he does it to Turkish and others also). Why does he do this? To get us to react and reply. he wants this. We don't want him. As I say, you wont check as you hate being wrong, but if you do you will see in the last week he has tried to bring me into stuff by mentioning me and I have NOT replied. So who is the one obsessed? Him or us?

So, he does not invite ridicule in his posts? You see, you have made yourself look the cock that you are yet again with your personal bias. You wonder why people get on at him, I prove to you why, you ignore it and say i deserve it and in effect he doesn't. You utter idiot, yet again can only see against a person, not look at the facts. Thick as pig shit. 

Think!

This is what comes to mind when most read your posts but the 4 words first

[egg]

Final word from me. ChatGPT is pretty malleable. If someone asked whether there's more of a focus on SoG than his focus on Robinson or Hopkins, it'd say this. 

 

[Farmer Saint]

5 hours ago, CB Fry said:

Anyway, what was that BBC show that did loads of jokes about gassing the Jews? I can't find it on iPlayer

 

Newsround?

Edited 8 hours ago by Farmer Saint

[sadoldgit]

1 hour ago, egg said:

The context isn't lost on me, and that others focused on them names after they were mentioned amongst others in that context. 

Indeed. I don’t know why anyone would find it surprising that racists’ names come up when discussing racists and racist opinions. There are threads about racism and Reform where it would be strange if certain names weren’t mentioned.

[Weston Super Saint]

15 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Indeed. I don’t know why anyone would find it surprising that racists’ names come up when discussing racists and racist opinions. There are threads about racism and Reform where it would be strange if certain names weren’t mentioned.

Don't worry, we've got you to make sure they are.

[iansums]

16 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Don't worry, we've got you to make sure they are.

He hasn't mentioned me yet, which I find deeply upsetting. He knows full well that I'm Islamaphobic (whatever that means) and that I voted Reform so must be fascist/racist too.

[badgerx16]

50 minutes ago, iansums said:

He hasn't mentioned me yet, which I find deeply upsetting. He knows full well that I'm Islamaphobic (whatever that means) and that I voted Reform so must be fascist/racist too.

You are a flag shagging, Hopkins worshipping, Tommy Robinson fan boy.

😀

[badgerx16]

1 hour ago, sadoldgit said:

Indeed. I don’t know why anyone would find it surprising that racists’ names come up when discussing racists and racist opinions. There are threads about racism and Reform where it would be strange if certain names weren’t mentioned.

Robinson's and Hopkins' names generally appear when you use them to describe another poster as supporting them. Very rarely, if at all, are they quoted or supported directly.

( Edit: see the above post).

Edited 5 hours ago by badgerx16

[iansums]

25 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

You are a flag shagging, Hopkins worshipping, Tommy Robinson fan boy.

😀

Thank you, much appreciated. However, I would like to hear it from the main man himself.

[hypochondriac]

35 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Robinson's and Hopkins' names generally appear when you use them to describe another poster as supporting them. Very rarely, if at all, are they quoted or supported directly.

( Edit: see the above post).

Exactly. They aren't being brought up to discuss them or their ideas, it's to baselessly smear other posters by stating that they support them with no evidence.

[Turkish]

42 minutes ago, iansums said:

Thank you, much appreciated. However, I would like to hear it from the main man himself.

You're going to have to try an awful lot harder to be inducted into the Usual Suspects and the Pile on gang. 

[Turkish]

40 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Exactly. They aren't being brought up to discuss them or their ideas, it's to baselessly smear other posters by stating that they support them with no evidence.

Andrew Tate was another one for a while. That led to one of my favourite Sog moments

Aside from his weird labelling of everyone who doesn't agree with him far right he's also regularly delivering masterclasses in how to completely make yourself look a total mug by missing the point. Who remembers when he was banging on about Andrew Tate and when people started to tell him to give it a rest he bumped a thread i'd started about Tate as some sort of gotcha to prove I was a fan of his. unfortuantely for SOG, in his haste to have a pop he failed to understand the thread was taking the piss out of Tate. Even then he wouldn't back down and ended up making himself look a proper fool. 

Another time he accused me of arrogantly starting a thread on a topic so i could get attention, but was too stupid to realise the Mods had split a thread and mine just happened to be the first post on the split thread.

He really is the gift that keeps giving. Funny how one of his go to phrases is "engage your brain before you post' If only he applied his own advice.

Edited 4 hours ago by Turkish