Damion Downs (Rumour)

[goodymatt]

 

[Turkish]

1 hour ago, hypochondriac said:

We had Cody Cropper but he never played for the first team. 

Why do all the American players we've had have the same letters for first name and surname?

Kasey Keller

Cody Cropper

now Damian Downs

 

Makes you think.....

[UpweySaint]

21 minutes ago, Badger said:

Just hope we don't end up saying similar to Mara. 

Yeah fair point - that’s the risk. I think we overpaid a bit for Mara but can see why we took a punt on him. A few goals in a good league at a young age, youth international pedigree etc. Mara being sold on to BlueCo was a bit odd - they seem to be throwing a lot of cash at potential so even though he didn’t do it for us perhaps people in the game still see something - personally I never saw much for him in a saints shirt that made me think he would crack on. If you believe TransferMarkt we actually made a profit on him though which is strange…

[hypochondriac]

22 minutes ago, austsaint said:

One difference appears to be the confidence Pochettino has in the lad.   I’ll back his judgement in.   Still think we need a better strike force than Downs, Stewart, Archer and Arma though.

I still think he wi go but if we keep Fernandes that may then be good enough. 

[Gloucester Saint]

8 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

 

At least he won’t have to play in that monstrous away kit

[sockeye]

7 minutes ago, UpweySaint said:

Yeah fair point - that’s the risk. I think we overpaid a bit for Mara but can see why we took a punt on him. A few goals in a good league at a young age, youth international pedigree etc. Mara being sold on to BlueCo was a bit odd - they seem to be throwing a lot of cash at potential so even though he didn’t do it for us perhaps people in the game still see something - personally I never saw much for him in a saints shirt that made me think he would crack on. If you believe TransferMarkt we actually made a profit on him though which is strange…

I always wonder if our poor recent history gives a bit of a smokescreen for young players who have underperformed to get decent moves out. We've finished 20th, 4th, 20th in the last three years so I wonder if that makes clubs think "he's not gotten good service from teammates", "suffered from a lack of stability", "not given a good environment to develop" etc. leading to them taking a chance on players like Mara. Players that although they are still young have not shown anything special whilst here.

Edited 10 hours ago by sockeye

[saintant]

45 minutes ago, Badger said:

Just hope we don't end up saying similar to Mara. 

Not sure why he would be similar to Mara although I get the worry that he could turn out to be as disappointing. As others have said Poch rates him so I'm hopeful he will come here and thrive. 

[Saint Scott]

1 hour ago, Miltonaggro said:

Yes, about as useful as Roy Cropper. 

You say that, but.... being laughed at by Roy Cropper is about as low as it gets 🫠

 

[pimpin4rizeal]

Honestly see nothing exciting at all in his videos and the videos are usually flattering .. a couple of scruffy finishes from a gangly looking player .. none of the American you tube analyts seem blown away with him really either .. hope we don’t get rid of many of our championship proven players to bring in gambles like this 

[Football Special]

4 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Honestly see nothing exciting at all in his videos and the videos are usually flattering .. a couple of scruffy finishes from a gangly looking player .. none of the American you tube analyts seem blown away with him really either .. hope we don’t get rid of many of our championship proven players to bring in gambles like this 

Agree, nothing to get excited about and seems like usual gamble on a young player hoping he comes good 

[goodymatt]

Shorter vid showing all his goal contributions for those that haven’t seen them all before.

Edited 7 hours ago by goodymatt

[Chez]

 

Bit more meat on the bone.

Not sure I am totally convinced, but he looks better than his US strike partner Agyamang to me.

Tall, decent turn of foot (not electric), seems to play on the half turn well, happy to lay it off first time...he's much more comfortable doing that than dribbling with the ball. Touch seems OK. Not sure I see a PL striker there, but he might have more tools in his bag than Stewart. 

[Chez]

1 hour ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Honestly see nothing exciting at all in his videos and the videos are usually flattering .. a couple of scruffy finishes from a gangly looking player .. none of the American you tube analyts seem blown away with him really either .. hope we don’t get rid of many of our championship proven players to bring in gambles like this 

I get the same feeling. Having seen a host of scruffy finishes in Onuachu's youtube video, that is a little concerning.

We are obviously shopping at a different level than last summer, but you still want to see a guy murdering opponents at the level he currently is at. There has been a lot of talk of signing players with the right physical attributes, but all I see if "tall" in Quarshie and Downs. As Onuachu proved, that isn't the most critical thing.

Edited 6 hours ago by Chez

[Wsaint]

1 hour ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Honestly see nothing exciting at all in his videos and the videos are usually flattering .. a couple of scruffy finishes from a gangly looking player .. none of the American you tube analyts seem blown away with him really either .. hope we don’t get rid of many of our championship proven players to bring in gambles like this 

 

43 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

Shorter vid showing all his goal contributions for those that haven’t seen them all before.

Not sure what you are talking about based on this G/A video, plenty of composed finishes in there, shows he can create his own and play the poacher. Goals in and outside the box. It's always going to be gamble, we can't afford or appeal to a top clinical striker, I'm happy to give him a chance for 8 mil.

[skintsaint]

2 hours ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Honestly see nothing exciting at all in his videos and the videos are usually flattering .. a couple of scruffy finishes from a gangly looking player ..

Pretty sure I've seen a video of him volleying in a ball from over his shoulder on his left foot, hardly a scuff. 

He looks good enough for our level and at that price.

[revolution saint]

 

1 hour ago, Chez said:

 

Bit more meat on the bone.

Not sure I am totally convinced, but he looks better than his US strike partner Agyamang to me.

Tall, decent turn of foot (not electric), seems to play on the half turn well, happy to lay it off first time...he's much more comfortable doing that than dribbling with the ball. Touch seems OK. Not sure I see a PL striker there, but he might have more tools in his bag than Stewart. 

Damion Downs is a BEAST

There's some good stuff in there, he's not a premier league quality striker but you don't get them for what is it, 6.8M? He's really only had one full season of mens football so there will be lots to improve in his game and hopefully we'll get to see that.  Plus he'll probably be understudy to Stewart initially.

Edited 5 hours ago by revolution saint

[CSA96]

 

[saintant]

3 hours ago, Chez said:

 

Bit more meat on the bone.

Not sure I am totally convinced, but he looks better than his US strike partner Agyamang to me.

Tall, decent turn of foot (not electric), seems to play on the half turn well, happy to lay it off first time...he's much more comfortable doing that than dribbling with the ball. Touch seems OK. Not sure I see a PL striker there, but he might have more tools in his bag than Stewart. 

Looks neat and tidy if not spectacular but then he is clearly raw, in need of refinement and has much to learn. Don't think he'll come in and hit the ground running and would expect him to be more of a slow burner. He's certainly busy and I like that he is always on the move after making a pass which is an encouraging sign. Not one who gives me a feeling of real excitement but hoping he'll turn out to surprise us in a good way.

[coalman]

One thing I like from his videos is he's looking to take the ball in stride with his first touch to commit the defender rather than stopping and taking the pace out of the game. We've needed that so much in recent years.

[StrangelyBrown]

7 hours ago, Turkish said:

Why do all the American players we've had have the same letters for first name and surname?

Kasey Keller

Cody Cropper

now Damian Downs

 

Makes you think.....

We also had Tijuana Tim super soccerball fan

[BarberSaint]

3 hours ago, skintsaint said:

Pretty sure I've seen a video of him volleying in a ball from over his shoulder on his left foot, hardly a scuff. 

He looks good enough for our level and at that price.

But we really want this level and the level above. Nothing I've seen of him suggests he'd do well if we got promoted.

[Convict Colony]

4 hours ago, Chez said:

I get the same feeling. Having seen a host of scruffy finishes in Onuachu's youtube video, that is a little concerning.

We are obviously shopping at a different level than last summer, but you still want to see a guy murdering opponents at the level he currently is at. There has been a lot of talk of signing players with the right physical attributes, but all I see if "tall" in Quarshie and Downs. As Onuachu proved, that isn't the most critical thing.

Bro unless you see Saints sign Simon Banza i think you will disappointed, wonder where he is off this summer.

[Chez]

37 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

Bro unless you see Saints sign Simon Banza i think you will disappointed, wonder where he is off this summer.

probably back to Turkey, possibly on loan, although Besiktas have offered €7.5m for him.

[pimpin4rizeal]

4 hours ago, Wsaint said:

 

Not sure what you are talking about based on this G/A video, plenty of composed finishes in there, shows he can create his own and play the poacher. Goals in and outside the box. It's always going to be gamble, we can't afford or appeal to a top clinical striker, I'm happy to give him a chance for 8 mil.

Most of the strikers on our books including onuachu looked better thin him .. out of Paul,archer even bbd Armstrong and Stewart you would probably have to place this guy last on who’s most likely to destroy the championship 

[Wsaint]

7 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Most of the strikers on our books including onuachu looked better thin him .. out of Paul,archer even bbd Armstrong and Stewart you would probably have to place this guy last on who’s most likely to destroy the championship 

Paul I'll give you gangly and scruffy, that might be the worst hatrick I've ever seen, I just don't think those are the right things to criticise Downs for, even if you don't think he's going to turn out well for us. In many of those clips he gets the ball out of his feet well and gets a decent shot off in tight spaces.

[pimpin4rizeal]

19 minutes ago, Wsaint said:

Paul I'll give you gangly and scruffy, that might be the worst hatrick I've ever seen, I just don't think those are the right things to criticise Downs for, even if you don't think he's going to turn out well for us. In many of those clips he gets the ball out of his feet well and gets a decent shot off in tight spaces.

I didn’t mind Paul tbh but we rarely played to his strengths .. if you played like stoke city when they had crouch Paul would probably be a excellent player.  I think  when you break it down last season was his only oppurtunity even though we hardly rained in crosses for him he still did ok and had some matches where he was really good. As for downs no idea really but don’t particularly like the look of him in the vids.: I guess his hold up play will also be a major factor into his success here too I hope he does well but he doesn’t excite me 

Edited 45 minutes ago by pimpin4rizeal