West Brom 1-1 Saints - Match Thread

[Saint_clark]

15 minutes ago, sfc4prem said:

I can see that, but I don't think anyone is saying we are doing well, regardless. Therefore I don't see the need of bringing it up anymore. I think it'd suit us better just to remove it from the narrative - it sounds a bit whiny.

You don't think anyone is saying we are doing well? I assume that's a typo?

[Football Special]

30 minutes ago, LGTL said:

Good point but we simply have to beat Preston. They’re absolutely abysmal. 

Preston drew at home to WBA a couple of games ago, can't be complacent especially with our key players missing 

[Spoonman]

Decent point considering first half horror show 

[Harry_SFC]

10 minutes ago, Saint Pete said:

Yep, hopefully we are able to send him back to City and at the least get another more suitable loan in who has the capability to play as a lone striker in the way we need him to. 

Can't see it happening in January but Vipotnik or Gudjohnsen would be decent 

Edited 2 hours ago by Harry_SFC

[Midfield_General]

Good to see some fight and character after half time but the state of that first half, jesus. 

Second half better. Dobbin has to score that 1 on 1 and I wish Downes had put his foot through the one that their keeper messed up, but a draw away at WBA is a perfectly decent result and sometimes you just have to take the point and get the hell out of there.

 

[Football Special]

23 minutes ago, saintant said:

Also Mubama seems to have no upper body strength.

Yeah its weird. 

West Ham fan i know who always gives decent assessment told me when we signed him that he'd dominated teams at youth level thanks to his relative strength and physical condition but now he's in men's football will struggle to have the same impact, hard to argue with that from the games ive seen 

[VectisSaint]

1 hour ago, Saint_clark said:

Larin better not be going off to Canada in the upcoming international break.

He's not, not in the squad.

https://www.facebook.com/share/1Fv1KSQTgP/

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[Lee On Solent Saint]

1 minute ago, VectisSaint said:

He's not, not in the squad.

Hopefully not an indication of something longer term.

[trousers]

 

 

[Harry_SFC]

3 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

Good to see some fight and character after half time but the state of that first half, jesus. 

Second half better. Dobbin has to score that 1 on 1 and I wish Downes had put his foot through the one that their keeper messed up, but a draw away at WBA is a perfectly decent result and sometimes you just have to take the point and get the hell out of there.

 

They missed some very presentable chances too.

If we beat Preston (would be an absolute disaster if we don't) then it's another solid 7 point week. 

[Jack]

Got to agree with Tonda’s assessment really, we bottled it first half. Sat in and watched them play rather than giving them anything to think about. Mubama has shown he’ll be replaced in January, Edozie too despite a goal. Part of me thinks it’s a good point considering how bad we were first half, but really I think it’s two dropped as we should’ve been more front footed from the off. 

[trousers]

 

 

[sadoldgit]

Great that the tactical change at half time made a big difference in the second half, but why not make a change to the press in the first half when they were bossing the game?

Very happy with a point after that abysmal  first half and although we had some good chances to nick it, so did they. A draw is probably a fair result overall.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

7 minutes ago, Jack said:

Got to agree with Tonda’s assessment really, we bottled it first half. Sat in and watched them play rather than giving them anything to think about. Mubama has shown he’ll be replaced in January, Edozie too despite a goal. Part of me thinks it’s a good point considering how bad we were first half, but really I think it’s two dropped as we should’ve been more front footed from the off. 

Take the point all day long. Don't see it as two dropped really. If they continue to play like that, they will cause teams a lot of problems. Happy to get the game out of the way.

[BS8Saint]

54 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

The Dobbin who missed an absolute sitter today, as well the chances he missed against Bolton? If he’d taken the easy chances he’s been presented with this season, we’d have 4 more points. 

He’s getting himself in the positions where Muamba isn’t and his movement is so, so much better. The goals will come for him. 

[Jack]

14 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Take the point all day long. Don't see it as two dropped really. If they continue to play like that, they will cause teams a lot of problems. Happy to get the game out of the way.

Not with finishing like that we won’t, we’ll be letting teams off. Dobbin was a massive improvement which says how bad Mubama is. Frustrating one, WBA are in decent form but I don’t think they’re all that. Teams that want to go up automatically will find answers to what they’ve got and we didn’t. 

[sfc4prem]

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[sfc4prem]

49 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

You don't think anyone is saying we are doing well? I assume that's a typo?

It was 😅

[Lee On Solent Saint]

10 minutes ago, Jack said:

Not with finishing like that we won’t, we’ll be letting teams off. Dobbin was a massive improvement which says how bad Mubama is. Frustrating one, WBA are in decent form but I don’t think they’re all that. Teams that want to go up automatically will find answers to what they’ve got and we didn’t. 

I meant West Brom will cause other teams problems, hence the word they.

[franniesTache]

I really don't understand what people expect, we've only lost 2 games all season, we've won 7 out of 8 home games, drawing the remaining one. We've got the joint best goal difference in the league, We've got the joint third top scorer in the league (despite having played less games than those around him), without the minus four we'd be top of the league, we haven't lost to any of the top 12 sides we've played, in fact more than that we've beaten most of them, and arguably we haven't even played at our best yet this season.

This side and this manager are a very good side, Tonda has them drilled to be brutally consistent, and i wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if we won the league.

And on top of all of that we're doing it with very little attention because our league position is false due to the points deduction.

The next few games are two awful sides in Preston and Derby who we should hammer, Sheffield United who blow hot and cold, and obviously the league leaders Boro. I'm going to stick my neck out here and say by the end of that run we'll be top two at a mininum.

This is not a normal Saints side, and Tonda is not a normal Saints manager

[Jack]

3 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

I meant West Brom will cause other teams problems, hence the word they.

Fair enough. Let’s hope so, they’ve lost to Boro, Wolves and Birmingham so far, obviously beat WHU who are in meltdown but yeah let’s hope they take some points off our promotion rivals the rest of the season 

[Paul_B]

2 hours ago, benjii said:

Sorry, to be clear, are you saying we should sack all of the eleven players? And the coaches? Or just the players (for a moderate approach)?

Apologies, I did mean the whole squad, coaches, back room staff, media team, tea lady and the owners. After the second half, which was moderately acceptable, they can all have a stay of execution though

On a serious note, how long can we realistically go on playing a bit shit but still picking up points? 

[austsaint]

17 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Lastly - Jimmy-Jay Morgan. Not sure we're missing much there, looked similar to Dobbin?? Almost too desperate to score too. 

Thinking the same.   Club has probably made the right decision with both JJ Morgan and Ronnie Edwards; both young, something about them, but on the evidence, no great loss.   West Brom fans might be thinking the same about Tom Fellows, especially given their signing of Issac Price who looked impressive tonight.    WBA look a genuine contender - first half they pressed the life out of us; ran through midfield in numbers and could easily have had a couple of goals before half-time.

But what a second half, you couldn't take your eyes off it. A complete turnaround with the excellent Downes running midfield backed up by JWP.  Azaz grew into the game, Matsuki and Edozie came alive, full backs played higher up the pitch as the possession numbers evened up, all of which relieved the pressure on Stephens and Schott. who were under siege for the first 45 minutes.     It was a good point on the road and clearly could have been all three had Dobbin lobbed the advancing keeper when put through by Azaz and if Downes had mustered the confidence to take responsibility for the shot rather than lay off to Dobbin.       

 

[BarberSaint]

21 minutes ago, franniesTache said:

I really don't understand what people expect, we've only lost 2 games all season, we've won 7 out of 8 home games, drawing the remaining one. We've got the joint best goal difference in the league, We've got the joint third top scorer in the league (despite having played less games than those around him), without the minus four we'd be top of the league, we haven't lost to any of the top 12 sides we've played, in fact more than that we've beaten most of them, and arguably we haven't even played at our best yet this season.

This side and this manager are a very good side, Tonda has them drilled to be brutally consistent, and i wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if we won the league.

And on top of all of that we're doing it with very little attention because our league position is false due to the points deduction.

The next few games are two awful sides in Preston and Derby who we should hammer, Sheffield United who blow hot and cold, and obviously the league leaders Boro. I'm going to stick my neck out here and say by the end of that run we'll be top two at a mininum.

This is not a normal Saints side, and Tonda is not a normal Saints manager

I expect us to win every game (really - pretty much, anyway, but I'm disappointed with the two losses because I think they were more self-enforced than deserved due to how good the opponent was).

[qwertyell]

19 minutes ago, austsaint said:

Club has probably made the right decision with both JJ Morgan and Ronnie Edwards

At the risk of being pedantic, we didn't make a right or wrong decision with Morgan - he turned down our pro contract offer to join Chelsea. 

[sadoldgit]

2 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Lastly - Jimmy-Jay Morgan. Not sure we're missing much there, looked similar to Dobbin?? Almost too desperate to score too. 

He has scored some good goals this season and looks a decent player to me.