saint_stevo Posted 19 August, 2008 Share Posted 19 August, 2008 A worrying, worrying rumour. Nothing more at the moment but the thought of John leaving right now is bloody scary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 19 August, 2008 Share Posted 19 August, 2008 Where from? I highly doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 19 August, 2008 Share Posted 19 August, 2008 A worrying, worrying rumour. Nothing more at the moment but the thought of John leaving right now is bloody scary No it's not scary It's inflammatory. Might as well post a Nuke into the middle of the Saints fans Tin hats and anti-depressant pills chaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 19 August, 2008 Author Share Posted 19 August, 2008 a mate of mine is a palace fan, he said that Warnock is after John and Helguson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 19 August, 2008 Share Posted 19 August, 2008 I wouldn't be surprised at all. He's probably on big wages, and we've seen pretty clearly that the approach being taken is to offload anyone on more than a couple of grand a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 19 August, 2008 Share Posted 19 August, 2008 a mate of mine is a palace fan, he said that Warnock is after John and Helguson Lol. It's crap then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 19 August, 2008 Share Posted 19 August, 2008 Christ on a bike. When will it stop? And why haven't we sold Davis yet? Answer - because he is so bad no-one will even take him on a free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 19 August, 2008 Share Posted 19 August, 2008 Perhaps we could have Ifill back in p/ex, we could so with a RB. I see he has been put on the transfer list by Palace... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 19 August, 2008 Share Posted 19 August, 2008 a mate of mine is a palace fan, he said that Warnock is after John and Helguson So good old John can miss open goals for them (and still be paid £10,000 each week)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 19 August, 2008 Share Posted 19 August, 2008 Crystal Palace have transfer-listed Paul Ifill and Carl Fletcher in a bid to raise funds to buy a striker. (Daily Mail) Could be Stern John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 19 August, 2008 Share Posted 19 August, 2008 Perhaps we could have Ifill back in p/ex, we could so with a RB. I see he has been put on the transfer list by Palace... It was Phil Ifil who played for us, Paul Ifill plays for Palace. Phil is at Colchester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 19 August, 2008 Share Posted 19 August, 2008 Nobody in the team is not for sale but John is a part of the team and if he goes I'm expect a good price. There is also a big difference between one party wanting to buy him and the other selling him, the "fact" that palace want him doesn't mean will sell him. I'd say they have a bigger chance with Helguson anyway, he seems to be far down the pecking order at Bolton. Anyway, no reason to get worked-up just yet, so far its a rumour from some palace fan saying the want John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDonkey Posted 19 August, 2008 Share Posted 19 August, 2008 Basically we tried to sell the players we didn't want (Rasiak, Saga, Skacel and possibly Wright-Phillips and Thomas) but nobody wanted to pay good money for them so we're reduced to selling the players we would rather hang on to. It's ****ing annoying but better than the alternative - administration, which would mean selling the players anyway and a points deduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 19 August, 2008 Share Posted 19 August, 2008 Basically we tried to sell the players we didn't want (Rasiak, Saga, Skacel and possibly Wright-Phillips and Thomas) but nobody wanted to pay good money for them so we're reduced to selling the players we would rather hang on to. It's ****ing annoying but better than the alternative - administration, which would mean selling the players anyway and a points deduction. Fine, but then greater effort has to be made to make good use of those we cannot sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 19 August, 2008 Share Posted 19 August, 2008 Fine, but then greater effort has to be made to make good use of those we cannot sell. That will happen once we're sure they're not leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 19 August, 2008 Share Posted 19 August, 2008 That will happen once we're sure they're not leaving. Not good enough, it should have already started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 19 August, 2008 Share Posted 19 August, 2008 Not good enough, it should have already started. Yep I think I agree, we're paying their wages, we should be making use of them while they are still here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 19 August, 2008 Share Posted 19 August, 2008 Not good enough, it should have already started. That would results in unmotivated players and to many changes in the teams between the matches. I think the choice to leave the ones they wanted to sell out of the team was a wise one. It gives more stability to the first team. That said, perhaps they could have been used as subs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 19 August, 2008 Share Posted 19 August, 2008 Think how many clubs want a striker in this league. The closer it gets to the deadline the more likely clubs will go for John. I can definitely see him going on loan or on a free. Skacel will no doubt go on loan again late on, but I doubt anyone will come in for Euell or Davis. Surman is an interesting one. Depends if someone is willing to take the gamble. 2m would do it and I think he'd be a good signing for someone at that price. If we can get all those deals done, try to loan a left back and hope like hell McGoldrick keeps scoring, we may have a chance. At least the transfer rumours would be over. I don't believe that, from JP's selections its already clear he's important to the team so if he goes he goes for a decent fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 19 August, 2008 Share Posted 19 August, 2008 I don't believe that, from JP's selections its already clear he's important to the team so if he goes he goes for a decent fee. If someone else is willing to pay his wages, I think he'll go. He wasn't used much in pre season, and not on the first day of the season either was he? He's pretty much forced his way into the team, much as the others should be allowed to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 19 August, 2008 Share Posted 19 August, 2008 Christ on a bike. When will it stop? And why haven't we sold Davis yet? Answer - because he is so bad no-one will even take him on a free. Utter, utter, nonsense. He is one of our most important players. Have you seen how bad Bart is? If KD goes and Forecast is not an adequate replacement we will definitely get relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 19 August, 2008 Share Posted 19 August, 2008 If someone else is willing to pay his wages, I think he'll go. He wasn't used much in pre season, and not on the first day of the season either was he? He's pretty much forced his way into the team, much as the others should be allowed to do. He was banned.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 19 August, 2008 Share Posted 19 August, 2008 He was banned.... Lol, good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildgoose Posted 19 August, 2008 Share Posted 19 August, 2008 Source? Ketchup with the latest news will you? ....sorry! Time to go ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 19 August, 2008 Share Posted 19 August, 2008 It was Phil Ifil who played for us, Paul Ifill plays for Palace. Phil is at Colchester. whoops, hopefully JP wouldn't make the same mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NN2 Saint Posted 19 August, 2008 Share Posted 19 August, 2008 Would be a bigger loss than Andrew Davies imo. During the first half on Sat his all round game was excellent and I personally feel he suits this formation perfectly. He also makes DMG seem a much better player as I feel he is more suited to the role on the right. Hope he doesn't go but unfortunately with us in the way we are at present money talks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicko Posted 19 August, 2008 Share Posted 19 August, 2008 My mate's a Palace fan and he reckons they are trying to get Andy Bishop from Bury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 19 August, 2008 Share Posted 19 August, 2008 How many collective goals do you think our "strikers on loan" group will net this season? Has Saga played yet? Rasiak? John could be next. Maybe BWP? Screw them. McGoldrick and Patterson will score more. Probably. Saga has already played two matches. One in CL qualifying and one in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petersfield Saint Posted 19 August, 2008 Share Posted 19 August, 2008 Not good enough, it should have already started. I can see where Saint Martini's coming from up to a point, but ultimately agree with you Alpine - if we're paying these b****rds' wages then they should be playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 19 August, 2008 Share Posted 19 August, 2008 Source? The bleedin' obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 19 August, 2008 Share Posted 19 August, 2008 The bleedin' obvious. Fat man with grey hair in a red suit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Shot Posted 19 August, 2008 Share Posted 19 August, 2008 Crystal Palace have transfer-listed Paul Ifill and Carl Fletcher in a bid to raise funds to buy a striker. (Daily Mail) Could be Stern John I heard QPR re interested as well - no fee involved Saints just happy to unload a high earner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 19 August, 2008 Share Posted 19 August, 2008 I can see where Saint Martini's coming from up to a point, but ultimately agree with you Alpine - if we're paying these b****rds' wages then they should be playing Well we playe Skacel and now he is injured apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 19 August, 2008 Share Posted 19 August, 2008 RL tried really hard to keep Cedric Basaya (?) to stay.Shame he went because he would be in the frame up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bass Playing Saint Posted 19 August, 2008 Share Posted 19 August, 2008 Do we actually have any players left to put out a team?...I could get down the gym if there's a chance I might get a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch01 Posted 19 August, 2008 Share Posted 19 August, 2008 would make sense, my mate is a palace fan and he says all they need is a striker and john's name has been mentioned a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDonkey Posted 19 August, 2008 Share Posted 19 August, 2008 Do we actually have any players left to put out a team?...I could get down the gym if there's a chance I might get a game. Can you play right back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Posted 19 August, 2008 Share Posted 19 August, 2008 Hmm, not entrely convinced but then I did wonder when I saw the title of the thread if the queen had invited him up for a cuppa and a couple of custard creams. But frankly if someone's willing to give us a few quid for SJ and get a big pay packet off the books we have little choice. and to be frank it's not the end of the world, he ain't a world beater, so we could get better in on less, I'm sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 19 August, 2008 Share Posted 19 August, 2008 Hmm, not entrely convinced but then I did wonder when I saw the title of the thread if the queen had invited him up for a cuppa and a couple of custard creams. But frankly if someone's willing to give us a few quid for SJ and get a big pay packet off the books we have little choice. and to be frank it's not the end of the world, he ain't a world beater, so we could get better in on less, I'm sure I always like you more when you are being Frank.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 20 August, 2008 Share Posted 20 August, 2008 Turns out Palace are looking at John after all . . . http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_4018605,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 20 August, 2008 Share Posted 20 August, 2008 AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HA HA HA HA HA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintrich Posted 20 August, 2008 Share Posted 20 August, 2008 wrong John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 20 August, 2008 Share Posted 20 August, 2008 Crikey, didn't see that one coming did we boys... Lol We hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 20 August, 2008 Share Posted 20 August, 2008 Ha ha - but what a shame it isn't our own S. John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 20 August, 2008 Share Posted 20 August, 2008 Some of our players need a dear John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 20 August, 2008 Author Share Posted 20 August, 2008 ahhhhhh :embarrassed: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 20 August, 2008 Share Posted 20 August, 2008 Next time, ask for a first name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 20 August, 2008 Share Posted 20 August, 2008 TBH, playing on his own up front and with Saganowski gone, I can't see John getting any more than 10 goals this season anyway. Mind you, when you look at the players we'd have left, that is almost prolific. I hadn't been on this site for nearly 2 weeks before now. I come back and discover Davies and Rasiak have b*ggered off and we got beaten by Brum. I'm no Sir Allan Sugar, but surely if you keep cutting costs to the extent that you cannot deliver a product, your business is only going to get worse. I mean seriously what are we going to do when Killer, Thomas, Perry and DMG all pick up a knock at the same time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 20 August, 2008 Share Posted 20 August, 2008 That's why Poortvliet is looking to sign a new CB and striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 20 August, 2008 Share Posted 20 August, 2008 a mate of mine is a palace fan, he said that Warnock is after John and Helguson would make sense, my mate is a palace fan and he says all they need is a striker and john's name has been mentioned a lot. Perhaps you can now tell your Palace mates that they have the wrong John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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