ladysaint Posted 17 February, 2009 Share Posted 17 February, 2009 Dean Gorre reserve team manager on a rotation basis is this a good thing, its not April 1st is it, how can you have a manager albeit of the reserves on a rotation basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 17 February, 2009 Share Posted 17 February, 2009 Rotation with whom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 17 February, 2009 Share Posted 17 February, 2009 A big slap in the face for the excellent Henderson IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 17 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 17 February, 2009 You tell me http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/articles/article.php?page_id=11372 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumstead_Saint Posted 17 February, 2009 Share Posted 17 February, 2009 Link doesn't work - try this one: http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/articles/article.php?page_id=11372 or: "...whilst Gorré stepped into the hot-seat for this one, he said that the position of reserve team coach will continue to rotate. "I remain busy with the first team which is of course the most important thing for the moment but I am more than happy to take control of the reserves when the time allows me to do it." Strange setup though, I agree. Another "revolutionary idea" from the people who brought you the "Dutch Experiment"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 17 February, 2009 Share Posted 17 February, 2009 I'm more interested in how they have continued to downplay/cover up/ignore the departures of Hockaday and Webster. Nothing like treating the supporters with respect and honesty is there!!!!!! And they wonder why people are pssed off with the relationship between the Club and it's supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrise Posted 17 February, 2009 Share Posted 17 February, 2009 Sounds like this 'revolutionary coaching set-up' is more like a on the job training scheme. Whoever thought up this rotation lark has really lost the plot. The only plus side I can think of is whoever the coach is, actually has the chance of being in charge of a winning side for once! Who's going to be the reserves coach next week? Brian Blessed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 17 February, 2009 Share Posted 17 February, 2009 Nothing to do with knocking Lowe (honest), but one thing that struck me yesterday when I was thinking about going along to Staplewood was the fact we were playing Lewes!!!!!! Aldershot are in there with us and no disrespect to those teams, but I do wonder about the merits of playing such fixtures. It's hardly good practice to prepare yourself for games in the Championship and have to say someone in the league set up has got it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 17 February, 2009 Share Posted 17 February, 2009 Who's going to be the reserves coach next week? Brian Blessed? flash GORDONS ALIVE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 17 February, 2009 Share Posted 17 February, 2009 Rotation with whom? My question exactly...Wotte? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumstead_Saint Posted 17 February, 2009 Share Posted 17 February, 2009 Nothing to do with knocking Lowe (honest), but one thing that struck me yesterday when I was thinking about going along to Staplewood was the fact we were playing Lewes!!!!!! Aldershot are in there with us and no disrespect to those teams, but I do wonder about the merits of playing such fixtures. It's hardly good practice to prepare yourself for games in the Championship and have to say someone in the league set up has got it wrong. I think the reserves leagues were 'restructured' by the FA about 3 years ago. They have made it totally regional, whereas before it was based on the A team's league, I think. Like you say, no disrespect to Lewes Reserves....but bad idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 17 February, 2009 Share Posted 17 February, 2009 I think the reserves leagues were 'restructured' by the FA about 3 years ago. They have made it totally regional, whereas before it was based on the A team's league, I think. Like you say, no disrespect to Lewes Reserves....but bad idea! And I'm sure I remember Lowe having a proper moan about it too, and fair play to him, because it really is a backward step in terms of preparing players for the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam Posted 17 February, 2009 Share Posted 17 February, 2009 And I'm sure I remember Lowe having a proper moan about it too, and fair play to him, because it really is a backward step in terms of preparing players for the Championship. There have been a a few moans about it on the OS, basically saying the same things that you've said above. I appreciate if you don't want to post details but is there a story behind the departures of Hockaday and Webster? Or have they just been disappeared? Before Hockaday disappeared the conspiracy talk on here was that he was the man with Lowe's ear... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Site Agent Posted 18 February, 2009 Share Posted 18 February, 2009 Dean Gorre reserve team manager on a rotation basis is this a good thing, its not April 1st is it, how can you have a manager albeit of the reserves on a rotation basis. It's quite simple. He stands there whilst coaching them but slowly going round in a circle, turning, turning, always turning. I'll get my coat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 18 February, 2009 Share Posted 18 February, 2009 Nothing to do with knocking Lowe (honest), but one thing that struck me yesterday when I was thinking about going along to Staplewood was the fact we were playing Lewes!!!!!! Aldershot are in there with us and no disrespect to those teams, but I do wonder about the merits of playing such fixtures. It's hardly good practice to prepare yourself for games in the Championship and have to say someone in the league set up has got it wrong. that gets on my t1ts too but unfortunatly its the FA's great idea for the prem reserves to have a league of there own and everyone out of the prem get there little leagues based on area's or something like that. Didnt we win the reserves league last year when we were stil up against prem opo? Nothing to really sing and dance about but its a kick in the teath to be beating prem teams then get new opo's in Lews and Aldershot. EDIT: Someone has already ansered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbletch Posted 18 February, 2009 Share Posted 18 February, 2009 Rotation with whom? I've heard that it's a strategy to drive up attendance and programme sales. SFC will give a "fan in the stand" a chance to manage the reserves. All they have to do is be in the stadium at half-time during a home game and frantically wave a match day programme in the air. Concerns about inconsistent selections, strange substitutions and unusual formations that might arise by having an "amateur" running the team have been dismissed with the club saying that "They've got to get used to that sometime." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 18 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 18 February, 2009 We have been trying this system for the past 9 years with the first team and it doesnt work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 18 February, 2009 Share Posted 18 February, 2009 (edited) Dean Gorre reserve team manager on a rotation basis is this a good thing, its not April 1st is it, how can you have a manager albeit of the reserves on a rotation basis. Well actually, ROTATION is a good principle. All the " management team " get to see everyone and it helps assessment of players form, and a chance to watch progress of younger players. The original method was, " Hey Boss, there's this young lad in the reserves, his name is ****** you don't remember him, oh well I told you about him last November, and I thought we could use him in the first team squad. I know you haven't seen him play, but ...maybe " (well something like that I'm sure) .........but job rotation is standard practice in many organisations - I think it should be more commonplace. Edited 18 February, 2009 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 18 February, 2009 Share Posted 18 February, 2009 Well actually, ROTATION is a good principle. All the " management team " get to see everyone and it helps assessment of players form, and a chance to watch progress of younger players. The original method was, " Hey Boss, there's this young lad in the reserves, his name is ****** you don't remember him, oh well I told you about him last November, and I thought we could use him in the first team squad. I know you haven't seen him play, but ...maybe " (well something like that I'm sure) but job rotation is standard practice in many organisations - I think it should be more commonplace. What you suggest doesn't require job rotation, it simply needs the manager/head coach to shuffle his arse along to reserve matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 18 February, 2009 Share Posted 18 February, 2009 Must be Rupert's new 'revolutionary magic roundabout coaching' system. "Time for administration" said Zebedeh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 18 February, 2009 Share Posted 18 February, 2009 Could Stewart Henderson be one of the staff that is (quite rightly) not happy with what is going on ???? If I were him, I'd be mightlily ****ed off with Rupert when he gives all the academy credit to Georges Prost - surely Henderson has been a constant in these guy's careers??? As for Gorre - he needs to concentrate on the 1st team, they need more fvc1ng coaching at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 18 February, 2009 Share Posted 18 February, 2009 I think the reserves leagues were 'restructured' by the FA about 3 years ago. They have made it totally regional, whereas before it was based on the A team's league, I think. Like you say, no disrespect to Lewes Reserves....but bad idea! No disrespect to Lewes We clearly struggled to beat their reserves 2-0, and they were even reduced to 10 men for the last 20 minutes. Our coach moaned that it was difficult to break Lewes down because they put men behind the ball. So it would seem that this is the ideal preparation for the CCC, and shows that any team can foil Saints one-dimensional style of play by getting everyone behind the ball, even the reserve team of a team currently bottom of the 5th tier of English football... It may be better if we were playing reserve sides from higher divisions, but quite frankly with the current set up its questionable whether we would have any success, and being bottom of a reserve league is not great preparation either. With the team at our disposal against Lewes we should have won 6-0, but our inept coaches cannot see how dire we really are and think this was a good result and performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 18 February, 2009 Share Posted 18 February, 2009 People are forgetting that this isn't some sort of new idea. It's because they've put the others on gardening leave and are running out of people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 18 February, 2009 Share Posted 18 February, 2009 It may be better if we were playing reserve sides from higher divisions, but quite frankly with the current set up its questionable whether we would have any success, and being bottom of a reserve league is not great preparation either. With the team at our disposal against Lewes we should have won 6-0, but our inept coaches cannot see how dire we really are and think this was a good result and performance. Its getting to the stage when Premier League clubs will view playing our ressies as a waste of time and effort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 18 February, 2009 Share Posted 18 February, 2009 Could turn out to be a great idea! Keep moving the staff (& players?) around until they find a role they're good at. "And we'd like to introduce our new lavatory attendant - David McGoldrick!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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