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What a fecking ****! he's been at the club 2 mins and knows us so well does he. Well i was on the protest march last time & i'll be on it again this time, i'm a season ticket holder from the dell and all the time we've been at St Mary's and i'm 50 years old, hardly a kid. We really do need to get rid of lowe & his brigade! I urge everyone young & Old to take part in the protest tomorrow. Let these people know they are not wanted, make them feel very uncomfortable.

 

GET OUT OF OUR CLUB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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It really comes to something when you read forum posts in the local rag.

 

I take it Wotte either did not see or refuses to acknowledge that probably the most poignant part of the protest last time, and the piece covered widely, was the elderly lady giving up her ST.

 

I have not criticised Wotte up to this point, and worst, I have suggested that he comes across badly at times. I was even going to comment on the thread about him going to War and point out that at the end of the article, he'd admitted they'd made mistakes and was trying to put them right, even in his a*se about way, for me, acknowledgment of failure, is the first step to recovery.

 

But then this! Balance tipped, respect lost.

 

Uber fans and kids, man, isn;t that just rattling the cage of the upcoming protest. This guy either just doesn;t understand the situation OR and IMO is deliberately insighting the fans!

 

And I say this because of the Wilde threat incidents, the way Lowe treats people and our current predicament. Has ANYBODY got any links where such a long list of attacks has been placed against the fans??? I'm sorry but this is close to deliberately in sighting riotous behaviour. This maybe a bit extreme, but you keep adding up these comments and eventually he is going to flick the right switch, push the right (self destruct) button and boom! We have ourselves all out fighting and ABH!

 

I'm in no way condoning this reaction, nor calling for it. I suggest, that people are encouraged to call this man to task through the proper channels and that is to write to the club and the local MP. This guy has been here 5 mins whilst some of the fans he is patronising have been supporters of this club for 30 years and then some!

 

If he doesn't know this, he is the dumbest, thickest must stupid man ever to have managed in the public arena. If he does know this, then it is deliberate incitement and he should be brought to task NOW!

 

If you think this is over the top from me, think about Wilde and the threats made against him. Real or not, there are obviously people out there that want to do harm to this club. Let's make sure those people are contained within the club and stop the scum from leaking out.

 

The jury on Wotte is now out for me, he has lost my support.

 

 

 

 

P.S. out of interest, I suggest we start looking at his public comments in his previous roles, this could give us some important insights of his previous failures!

 

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I do not necessarily agree with all of his comments but there is truth in the statement about true fans, all the exposure about the marches have centred around the age of the organisers so that comment should not be taken out of context imo

 

I agree. Lets face it, he's talking about most of you lot on here who whine and moan like children about how this club has fallen like we have some god-given right to be further up the league (s) and out of this mess. Always looking for someone to blame; its boring. Most often you're blaming Rupert Lowe, but occasionally to change it up (presumably, because even you lot are bored of it), you'll find another scapegoat to get stuck into. I'm sick of it - this will be my last post on this site - good luck to you all and your negative, hate and blame filled existances.

 

Oh, and incase its not infered by my post, I agree with everything Mark Wotte said. GoodBye...

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Dont agree with doing this publically, but there are some truths in what he says - and I am not sure it warrants the kind of reaction from some... Hes tha manager of theclub and he sees fans protesteing when he wants them supporting. Sure we are playing crap under him and these are hollow words if we dont get points, but its hardly 'nasty' or insulting... seriously, I am not sure why anyone should be offended by it to be honest...

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I can see why his comments have got your lots back up but apart from the kids bit what is he saying that is so wrong?

 

He asked if the protesters are really supportive or if there waiting for us to go down?

 

So if the protesters are also boycotting the games is that being supportive? Most of the talk over this season has been talking about boycotting so again that is not being supportive of the team is it?

 

You can see in some of the comments after the report that there are some who want him to fail as it somehow provides more amunition to get rid of Lowe and Co. So again, what is he saying that is so wrong?

 

IMO he should keep his mouth shut and get on with the job to get some points on the board. Him getting involved in the politics will do nothing but anger the fans both supportive and unsupportive ;) But as he has said something look at it and tell me how much in his quote is so bad?

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I agree. Lets face it, he's talking about most of you lot on here who whine and moan like children about how this club has fallen like we have some god-given right to be further up the league (s) and out of this mess. Always looking for someone to blame; its boring. Most often you're blaming Rupert Lowe, but occasionally to change it up (presumably, because even you lot are bored of it), you'll find another scapegoat to get stuck into. I'm sick of it - this will be my last post on this site - good luck to you all and your negative, hate and blame filled existances.

 

Oh, and incase its not infered by my post, I agree with everything Mark Wotte said. GoodBye...

 

Ferk me.................2 year olds that can type!!!!!!!!!!!!! Back to the Wotte comments, this guy is a mirror image of his master, no wonder Lowe was after him before. This demands an apoligy Mr wotte, but I won't hold my breath.

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Ferk me.................2 year olds that can type!!!!!!!!!!!!! Back to the Wotte comments, this guy is a mirror image of his master, no wonder Lowe was after him before. This demands an apoligy Mr wotte, but I won't hold my breath.

 

So you can insult someone that has a POV but Wotte should appologise for asking a question?

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Ferk me.................2 year olds that can type!!!!!!!!!!!!! Back to the Wotte comments, this guy is a mirror image of his master, no wonder Lowe was after him before. This demands an apoligy Mr wotte, but I won't hold my breath.

 

It demands a what? Don't talk about two year olds typing when you spell like that, mush.

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Sounds like a case of nail firmly hit on head by Wotte. Time will tell if he is a good manager, but to be honest, I totally admire his lack of pussy footing around the bell ends.

 

Wotte a refreshing change.

 

I wouldnt go that far. I would rather him get on with the job and give a "no comment" to the press.

 

If he had won his 1st 3 games in charge and we were out of the drop zone his words might carry a bit more weight and he has already proved that he doesnt mind having a dig at the main shareholders so a few choice comments while winning footy matches would probably win him allot of support with the fans.

 

Points 1st IMO

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That has really angered me - desribing the marchers as young kids is very patronising and reminds me when Branfoot made a similar remark when referring to the car park protests.

Wotte and Lowe are perfect bedfellows - both out of touch and arrogant.

 

I agree, this clearly demonstrates the Lowe-esque attitude on show here. why can't they see the fans are just desperate, and they are desperate because they are loyal 'true' fans.

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Manager call for fans to get behind the team when they need their support most.

 

Manager gets abused for it.

 

This place is beyond belief.

 

Manager slags off nearly 10% of tomorrow' supporters for marching against s**t form.

 

Fans not happy.

 

What from that is 'beyond belief'

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I wouldnt go that far. I would rather him get on with the job and give a "no comment" to the press.

 

If he had won his 1st 3 games in charge and we were out of the drop zone his words might carry a bit more weight and he has already proved that he doesnt mind having a dig at the main shareholders so a few choice comments while winning footy matches would probably win him allot of support with the fans.

 

Points 1st IMO

 

If he is asked a question about the fans, which i would probably guess he was, then he has to give an answer. A simple "no comment" would get misconstrued on here by so many as to whether he was told to give that answer by his "master" or that he backs the protesting fans as he wants more boardroom support etc. He did the right thing and said the right thing. If that hurts the protesters it's fine by me. You really don't have to be a Lowe Luvvie to be anti protest, as this thread is proving.

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Dont agree with doing this publically' date=' but there are some truths in what he says - and I am not sure it warrants the kind of reaction from some... Hes tha manager of theclub and he sees fans protesteing when he wants them supporting. Sure we are playing crap under him and these are hollow words if we dont get points, but its hardly 'nasty' or insulting... seriously, I am not sure why anyone should be offended by it to be honest...[/quote']

 

I'll tell you why i'm offended Frank, because they had my money last March for this season. What did that buy me, cheaper games than buying on the day, nothing else. I supported the team last season and continued to support this season, and i will continue to turn up and support the players.What i don't want is some numpty to accuse me of wanting the team to fail just to justify the fact that before the match , i'm protesting.

 

The man should be concentrating on his job and put out a team to beat P.N.E, not worrying about what i'm doing before a match. T*sser.

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The point is, he just doesnt get it. He is a puppet in all of this a total irrelevance. His time will be short with us and he will carry on with his pointless career somewhere else far away. In the mean time he really should shut his pointless little mouth up.

The point is Lowe is continueing to snuff the life out of our once really quite good club.That i get angry about. This Wotte person, i just see a little boy speaking, tryng to play being grown up but failing..............

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Very poor comments from Mark Wotte. The fans have been mostly right behind the team when inside the stadium, and in return for what? It's a bit of a cheek complaining about the ones who are still showing up and paying their money, regardless of whether they're protesting outside against the incompetence of the board, when there are so many fans staying away as a result of the team's abysmal home form, something that Wotte has had an integral part in. The fans will still be coming to games and supporting Saints long after Wotte has been sacked and skulked back into obscurity in the Low Countries.

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I agree, this clearly demonstrates the Lowe-esque attitude on show here. why can't they see the fans are just desperate, and they are desperate because they are loyal 'true' fans.

 

It is nothing to do with Lowe. Christ, a protest proves nothing and does nothing. It simply lets a lot of people who don't like us being crap get together. Great! I have made quite a few connections to the protesters and the sketches in Life of Brian, manily headed by John Cleese where there is no point to their group and it's actions, and to be honest, it more or less mirrors the protesters on here.

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I agree. Lets face it, he's talking about most of you lot on here who whine and moan like children about how this club has fallen like we have some god-given right to be further up the league (s) and out of this mess. Always looking for someone to blame; its boring. Most often you're blaming Rupert Lowe, but occasionally to change it up (presumably, because even you lot are bored of it), you'll find another scapegoat to get stuck into. I'm sick of it - this will be my last post on this site - good luck to you all and your negative, hate and blame filled existances.

 

Oh, and incase its not infered by my post, I agree with everything Mark Wotte said. GoodBye...

 

Bye. Mr. Plant..

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Cant believe the over reaction to be honest.

 

Can't say I'm too outraged myself but really Wotte just needs to keep his gob shut Frank and get on with his job which is winning matches. Based on what we've seen after a promising start at Norwich, he's failing appallingly. If we'd won the last 2 games fair enough but he needs to pull his head in if he can't walk the walk. Tommorrow with Preston you'll see what a fit and organised side can do without large budgets as Irvine has learned lots from Moyes.

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I agree. Lets face it, he's talking about most of you lot on here who whine and moan like children about how this club has fallen like we have some god-given right to be further up the league (s) and out of this mess. Always looking for someone to blame; its boring. Most often you're blaming Rupert Lowe, but occasionally to change it up (presumably, because even you lot are bored of it), you'll find another scapegoat to get stuck into. I'm sick of it - this will be my last post on this site - good luck to you all and your negative, hate and blame filled existances.

 

Oh, and incase its not infered by my post, I agree with everything Mark Wotte said. GoodBye...

 

 

 

26/11/2008.... Watching Saints play this season has been great. My complaints in recent years have been over poor football quality and players lacking passion. I would far rather pay money to watch entertaining football played by guys who want to play for the club, that pay to watch the rubbish I saw last year. The results haven't been good this year, especially at home, and on the face of it, that is hard to take. But for those that still go to the games, you will see a much more entertaining brand of football. We have outplayed almost everyone this season, and our defeats are a result of naive defending more than anything else. The players are young though and will improve. I think we'll continue to improve and learn and finish around 16th this season. I don't even think we'll be playoff contenders next season, but the season after, assuming most of the players stay, I think we'll be in a great position to get promotion. We may lose one or two along the way such as Lallana (who lets face it belongs in the Premiership), but I think we have every reason to be positive about what is now going on at the club. For the first time in a long time, I see a long term sustainable plan in place to get us back in the Premiership. And that is a vast improvement over the short termist strategies employed in recent seasons.

 

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I'll tell you why i'm offended Frank, because they had my money last March for this season. What did that buy me, cheaper games than buying on the day, nothing else. I supported the team last season and continued to support this season, and i will continue to turn up and support the players.What i don't want is some numpty to accuse me of wanting the team to fail just to justify the fact that before the match , i'm protesting.

 

The man should be concentrating on his job and put out a team to beat P.N.E, not worrying about what i'm doing before a match. T*sser.

 

What rubbish. I manage to do my job very well and if asked if I thought you protesters were a bunch of children it would not detract from my abilities to point out the obvious answer.

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Can't say I'm too outraged myself but really Wotte just needs to keep his gob shut Frank and get on with his job which is winning matches. Based on what we've seen after a promising start at Norwich, he's failing appallingly. If we'd won the last 2 games fair enough but he needs to pull his head in if he can't walk the walk. Tommorrow with Preston you'll see what a fit and organised side can do without large budgets as Irvine has learned lots from Moyes.

 

Of cousre he should really keep quiet on such things, but to be offended by what is actually not exactly an 'untrue' statement seems a bit silly

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Originally Posted by Tom28

I agree. Lets face it, he's talking about most of you lot on here who whine and moan like children about how this club has fallen like we have some god-given right to be further up the league (s) and out of this mess. Always looking for someone to blame; its boring. Most often you're blaming Rupert Lowe, but occasionally to change it up (presumably, because even you lot are bored of it), you'll find another scapegoat to get stuck into. I'm sick of it - this will be my last post on this site - good luck to you all and your negative, hate and blame filled existances.

 

Oh, and incase its not infered by my post, I agree with everything Mark Wotte said. GoodBye...

 

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Tom28

26/11/2008.... Watching Saints play this season has been great. My complaints in recent years have been over poor football quality and players lacking passion. I would far rather pay money to watch entertaining football played by guys who want to play for the club, that pay to watch the rubbish I saw last year. The results haven't been good this year, especially at home, and on the face of it, that is hard to take. But for those that still go to the games, you will see a much more entertaining brand of football. We have outplayed almost everyone this season, and our defeats are a result of naive defending more than anything else. The players are young though and will improve. I think we'll continue to improve and learn and finish around 16th this season. I don't even think we'll be playoff contenders next season, but the season after, assuming most of the players stay, I think we'll be in a great position to get promotion. We may lose one or two along the way such as Lallana (who lets face it belongs in the Premiership), but I think we have every reason to be positive about what is now going on at the club. For the first time in a long time, I see a long term sustainable plan in place to get us back in the Premiership. And that is a vast improvement over the short termist strategies employed in recent seasons.

 

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another Lowe visionary...........

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Sweet. If the march is going to turn our form around, make the players better and mean we survive relegation this season then I'm in!

 

Maybe not. But just the fact the last was being planned seemed to force the board into some sort of action to address the issue of JP.

 

Maybe if the thought of this march get's Wotte to train them hard and properly so they might actually get three points for only the second time in three months, than yes, maybe you should go and join them.

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