St Marco Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 Yes As far as im concerned these two people are the cause of everything bad that has happened to this club. Their mismanagement has brought the club to its knees. They came back saying they were the only ones who could save the club. One year later and the club is taking its last breaths. LOWE AND WILDE OUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 Does a bear shiit in the wood ? Rupert Lowe : Destroyer of 124 years of proud history in the pursuit of a quick buck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 I pray I'm wrong, but I don't think it will make much difference now. They have killed us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 31 March, 2009 Author Share Posted 31 March, 2009 Does a bear shiit in the wood ? Depends on what type of bear were talking about. A better then your average bear might not! He would steal your picnic basket though. Which again is Lowes fault! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 This is not the time for recriminations Bellends,the both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offix Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 does a bear shiit in the wood ? Rupert lowe : Destroyer of 124 years of proud history in the pursuit of a quick buck. amen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wopper Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 Happy now Rupert :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 Yes of course. I don't even see how it's up for debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 yeah, the reason we are in this sh1t in the first place. He should have f***ed off after the cup final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 Nah, let's give 'em another chance - who knows, Lowe might put in a bit of his own money, appoint a decent manager, keep away from the changing room and training ground, find new investment etc. And then there's always the f-ing world-class catering to save us....oh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaptopSaint Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 Tricky one. Let me get back to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offix Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 No! Not resign. Executed more likely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 Does a bear shiit in the wood ? Rupert Lowe : Destroyer of 124 years of proud history in the pursuit of a quick buck. It is not Lowe who destroyed the club he tried to save it It was Michael Wilde and those players bought in on huge wages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 It is not Lowe who destroyed the club he tried to save it it was Michael Wilde here we go again... So Lowe isnt to blame at all?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 It is not Lowe who destroyed the club he tried to save it it was Michael Wilde a lone voice in the wilderness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 here we go again... So Lowe isnt to blame at all?? Obviously he was responsible for taking us down but not for causing the mess we are in today. But surely Wilde is the main culprit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 Obviously he was responsible for taking us down but not for causing the mess we are in today. But surely Wilde is the main culprit all links in a very long chain, with Wilde and Lowe at either end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 (edited) all links in a very long chain, with Wilde and Lowe at either end. Yes I totally agree but as most people hate Lowe he gets all the blame when I think lots should be heaped on Wilde and his fantasies. Even now fans think Investment fist spouted by Wilde will solve everything which of course it would in theory. But in practise it is very difficult to get in large investors because of the circumstances at SFC Edited 1 April, 2009 by John B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 Yes I agree but as most people hate Lowe he gets all the blame when I think lots should be heaped on Wilde and his fantasies. Even now fans think Investment fist spouted by Wilde will solve everything which of course it would in theory. But in practise it is very difficult to get in large investors because of the circumstances at SFC You have a point. Lowe's biggest mistake was coming back I think. That was the straw that broke the camel's back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 (edited) You have a point. Lowe's biggest mistake was coming back I think. That was the straw that broke the camel's back. Yes again that was Wilde thinking something could be achieved when we were already stuffed. We needed to off load our high earners by selling them and not loaning them to reduce the overdraft Edited 1 April, 2009 by John B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 Yes again that was Wilde thinking something could be achieved when we were already stuffed. Lowe and Wilde together ;-) also, Lowes BIGGEST mistake imo, was not investing in the playing side after FA cup final, that was the time to push on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 (edited) Lowe and Wilde together ;-) also, Lowes BIGGEST mistake imo, was not investing in the playing side after FA cup final, that was the time to push on. I know everybody says that but buying in players does not guarantee success. Where was the money to come from? We were investing in the Academy and if Bale Walcott Jones had not been sold we would have been in administration earlier WE have been trying to get investment for years Losing Strachan was the key because we were rudderless Edited 1 April, 2009 by John B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 I know everybody says that but buying in players does not guarantee success. Where was the money to come from? WE have been trying to get investment for years we did have cash there, must have got a bit from fa cup run, europe, prem position and sky money, not to mention player sales. Didnt need vast amounts, just 1 or 2 like WGS wanted, would have been enough...but i guess we will never know. Also, RL wanted waaay to much per share, if as rumoured a while ago people were interested but he turned down bids, bet he wished he had taken it now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 we did have cash there, must have got a bit from fa cup run, europe, prem position and sky money, not to mention player sales. Didnt need vast amounts, just 1 or 2 like WGS wanted, would have been enough...but i guess we will never know. Also, RL wanted waaay to much per share, if as rumoured a while ago people were interested but he turned down bids, bet he wished he had taken it now Yes but at the time the Sky money was not as big as it is today But as you rightly know say it is only ifs and whats. The investment Wilde put in has really caused the problem because it did not bring success and we have to pay the wages of the players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fos1 Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 Yes but at the time the Sky money was not as big as it is today But as you rightly know say it is only ifs and whats. The investment Wilde put in has really caused the problem because it did not bring success and we have to pay the wages of the players The investment Wilde put in !! your having a laugh right, he did not put one penny in, despite all his pledges to do so, the man is a fraud, will he have the guts to turn on Saturday !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 The investment Wilde put in !! your having a laugh right, he did not put one penny in, despite all his pledges to do so, the man is a fraud, will he have the guts to turn on Saturday !!!!! Well he did spend £8 million on players but in general I agree with your sentiments thats why I think he is a lot more culpable than Lowe. I also blame Crouch a little for believing Wilde's fantasies and backing him. I know fans wanted Lowe out but getting in Wilde has turned into a disaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 Anyone got a high powered rifle and scope I can borrow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 Anyone got a high powered rifle and scope I can borrow? Lee Harvey Oswald had one contact the Dallas Police Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 Well he did spend £8 million on players but in general I agree with your sentiments thats why I think he is a lot more culpable than Lowe. I also blame Crouch a little for believing Wilde's fantasies and backing him. I know fans wanted Lowe out but getting in Wilde has turned into a disaster Equally! Lowe started the domino effect, Wilde carried it on, then they both join together to make sure they all fall over :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 Equally! Lowe started the domino effect, Wilde carried it on, then they both join together to make sure they all fall over :-( Yes but whoever was in charge this season would probably have led us to administration. I bet Crouch is really happy he is just like us a fan. It is the same with the UK economy the Tories and Liberals are laughing because they not in charge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 A sad day but St Marco its easy to lay the blame at Lowe and wilde But the world financial melt down has a big say in what has happened. I think a number of other clubs will now follow suit, they were just waiting for the first club to put it head above the parapet. Oh and Crouch , hone and co are equally to blame if you look at last years accounts Still one at least one **** on here will be celebrating won't you stanley are you inviting your mate alpine round to share a bottle of cider? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 A sad day but St Marco its easy to lay the blame at Lowe and wilde But the world financial melt down has a big say in what has happened. I think a number of other clubs will now follow suit, they were just waiting for the first club to put it head above the parapet. Oh and Crouch , hone and co are equally to blame if you look at last years accounts Still one at least one **** on here will be celebrating won't you stanley are you inviting your mate alpine round to share a bottle of cider? Hone did recognise there was a problem but he is quite happy probably living on the money he earnt at SFC Crouch was still living in Wilde's fantasy world that investment was round the corner highly unlikely as you say because of the credit crunch. Lowe failed to keep us in the Premiership and failed to keep us out of Administration but was not completely to blame for getting the club into the situation it is today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 Well he did spend £8 million on players but in general I agree with your sentiments thats why I think he is a lot more culpable than Lowe. I also blame Crouch a little for believing Wilde's fantasies and backing him. I know fans wanted Lowe out but getting in Wilde has turned into a disaster You really are a piece of work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Bones Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 Round up the lot of them and shot 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 Hone did recognise there was a problem but he is quite happy probably living on the money he earnt at SFC Crouch was still living in Wilde's fantasy world that investment was round the corner highly unlikely as you say because of the credit crunch. Lowe failed to keep us in the Premiership and failed to keep us out of Administration but was not completely to blame for getting the club into the situation it is today Crouch isn't really to blame. I think Burley has a lot to answer for. The buck stops with Lowe and Wilde, although as eluded to, Wilde is the big villain in this piece. Without spunking £8m on players we would now not be defaulting £8m into our overdraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 Obviously he was responsible for taking us down but not for causing the mess we are in today. But surely Wilde is the main culprit I think the total, complete and utter shambles of mockery of a shambles that this season has become is completely and utterly down to Rupert Lowe and no other... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 Crouch isn't really to blame. I think Burley has a lot to answer for. The buck stops with Lowe and Wilde, although as eluded to, Wilde is the big villain in this piece. Without spunking £8m on players we would now not be defaulting £8m into our overdraft. No Crouch is not to blame much but he was taken in by Wilde's fantasies that is my point. I just wish he had worked with Lowe in 2006 thats all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 I think the total, complete and utter shambles of mockery of a shambles that this season has become is completely and utterly down to Rupert Lowe and no other... Wilde brought in Lowe and agrred with what he was doing. Cost cutting was always going to lead to bad team performances but I hoped we could have won three or four games and would have been slightly further up the table. Last season we were not much better hardly winning away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 It is not Lowe who destroyed the club he tried to save it It was Michael Wilde and those players bought in on huge wages Lowe tried to save it ??? By Dismissing Nigel Pearson Going for an Academy Youth Team Bringing in TWO untried Dutch people Selling any experienced player capable of scoring a Goal Loaning out other experienced players that are scoring Goals for our CCC Opponents Think again my friend ....... his pride was hurt when he was ousted ........ He came back on a mission ........ nearly accomplished Lowe IS the Destroyer of Saints ..... aided of course by Judas Wilde's backing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stubby Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 I'm just an ordinary fan, and this is my first post. The idea of Lowe staying after this is absolutely unthinkable. Surely even he must realise that now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 (edited) Lowe tried to save it ??? By Dismissing Nigel Pearson Going for an Academy Youth Team Bringing in TWO untried Dutch people Selling any experienced player capable of scoring a Goal Loaning out other experienced players that are scoring Goals for our CCC Opponents Think again my friend ....... his pride was hurt when he was ousted ........ He came back on a mission ........ nearly accomplished Lowe IS the Destroyer of Saints ..... aided of course by Judas Wilde's backing You maybe right but I thought he was cutting costs to try to balance the books and save us from Administration. But what do I know Whatever he tried to do did not work. But then it was virtually an impossible task as he could not sell the high earners I still think Wilde destroyed the club not Lowe but both should go Edited 1 April, 2009 by John B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 I'm just an ordinary fan, and this is my first post. The idea of Lowe staying after this is absolutely unthinkable. Surely even he must realise that now. You really are new ?? Lowe will be the LAST to leave ......... he will turn out the light .......... and take HIS light bulb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 You really are new ?? Lowe will be the LAST to leave ......... he will turn out the light .......... and take HIS light bulb There is no money in it for Lowe surely he will be off Not so certain about Wilde he is the Football Chairman not Lowe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 Wilde brought in Lowe and agrred with what he was doing. Cost cutting was always going to lead to bad team performances but I hoped we could have won three or four games and would have been slightly further up the table. Last season we were not much better hardly winning away Agreed with maybe but didn't actually do it. Forget cost cutting, that's a smokescreen, the decision to bring in Poortvielt for Pearson was absolutely ridiculous... In an actual of pure petulance and ego, Lowe took out a perfectly good manager and replaced him with a man who had no experience of English football whatsoever.. It was an act of complete and utter madness and it has completely and utterly ruined this season.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain saint Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 I honestly cant believe that anyone could not blame Rupert Lowe for destroying this club!!! Yes Wilde is to blame as well, but surely no one can say that this is not Mr Lowes fault for many many years of mis-management. Imho Wilde is just a small part of the bigger picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 Mike "COYR" Wilde was the idiot selling himself in 2006 as the "evolution not revolution" saviour who would take us to a whole new world.. Well since he appeared on the scene he certainly has took us to a whole new world but not the world we fans hoped for back then ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 Michael Wilde has been nothing short of an unmitigated disaster. The same goes for Lowe. Wilde OUT. Lowe OUT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 It is not Lowe who destroyed the club he tried to save it It was Michael Wilde and those players bought in on huge wages it was those idiot directors last season who increased the overdraft big time last season when we also lost the parachute payments they should have been cutting costs and offloading players instead of giveing silly money to jason euall etc i do not blame crouch has he was only their a shorttime last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 it was those idiot directors last season who increased the overdraft big time last season when we also lost the parachute payments they should have been cutting costs and offloading players instead of giveing silly money to jason euall etc i do not blame crouch has he was only their a shorttime last season.[/quote] That is no excuse, he has been involved at various times with the stewardship of this club, and he takes his fair share of the blame along with a whole host of others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeg Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 WE have been trying to get investment for years I wonder what constitutes "trying" - is it lowe sitting on his arse waiting for the phone to ring saying (and I've heard him say this) "well they know where we are if they want to invest!" or is trying having some charasmatic Southampton FC figure going out into the business community and actually selling the club I think I know the answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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