dubai_phil Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 So, we have new people coming in to look at the books They will have firm plans of what our cost structure must be in League 1 So, one of their first decisions will be to look at our out of contract players... KD, BWP and Euell. They may also look at JPS who said he would love to carry on playing. Wotte has indicated on the OS that the "old" club has opened contract talks. IF you were advising the new guys who would you keep? me - no brainer KD and get JPS back. BWP & Euell are more difficult. A motivated Euell could be just what we need, but would he fit our new style? BWP - we've had something like 3 years of "potential". Would we take the gamble or would we look for someone better suited to L1? Ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 What new style? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithy Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 Keep KD for sure and Euell if possible, Dwight Yorke has just been released by Sunderland,is he worth a punt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SET Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 on league 1 wages id sign them all up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 KD and JPS, the other two if they fit the wage structure would do a job in league 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 So, we have new people coming in to look at the books They will have firm plans of what our cost structure must be in League 1 So, one of their first decisions will be to look at our out of contract players... KD, BWP and Euell. They may also look at JPS who said he would love to carry on playing. Wotte has indicated on the OS that the "old" club has opened contract talks. IF you were advising the new guys who would you keep? me - no brainer KD and get JPS back. BWP & Euell are more difficult. A motivated Euell could be just what we need, but would he fit our new style? BWP - we've had something like 3 years of "potential". Would we take the gamble or would we look for someone better suited to L1? Ideas? Don't be so hard on yourself. Personally I'd keep Davis and tell BWP and Euell to f**k off. We moaned about Saga not scoring last season, I swear he got more goals than these two put together. Euell has been living off 5 decent games a season he maintain credibility since he got here. BWP is too old to have "potential" IMO. He still cannot comprehend the offside rule, not falling over or finishing a 1-on-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 I want all players with or without contract to have to undergo a new test THE FRANCIS BENALI TEST where they have to prove their heart & desire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 29 May, 2009 Author Share Posted 29 May, 2009 Don't be so hard on yourself. Personally I'd keep Davis and tell BWP and Euell to f**k off. We moaned about Saga not scoring last season, I swear he got more goals than these two put together. Euell has been living off 5 decent games a season he maintain credibility since he got here. BWP is too old to have "potential" IMO. He still cannot comprehend the offside rule, not falling over or finishing a 1-on-1. I'm honestly chilled. But would you bring back JPS? TBF if someone asked me to make a decision I would pass the buck to an expert:p However personally and opinion wise I would let BWP & Euell go I am a firm believer that you build from the back and that next season a back 5 of KD, James, JPS, Perry & Mills would be a good backbone to start from, and the DMG playing off a big lump CF up front would actually do the business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 I want all players with or without contract to have to undergo a new test THE FRANCIS BENALI TEST where they have to prove their heart & desire What does this involve. Breaking their arm and see if they keep playing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 I'm honestly chilled. But would you bring back JPS? TBF if someone asked me to make a decision I would pass the buck to an expert:p However personally and opinion wise I would let BWP & Euell go I am a firm believer that you build from the back and that next season a back 5 of KD, James, JPS, Perry & Mills would be a good backbone to start from, and the DMG playing off a big lump CF up front would actually do the business Get the foundations right and just get loads of pace up front! Perry and JPS to start defo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 I'm honestly chilled. But would you bring back JPS? TBF if someone asked me to make a decision I would pass the buck to an expert:p However personally and opinion wise I would let BWP & Euell go I am a firm believer that you build from the back and that next season a back 5 of KD, James, JPS, Perry & Mills would be a good backbone to start from, and the DMG playing off a big lump CF up front would actually do the business I am an expert and I would keep JPS but not Euell and BWP. I agree with that back four with the exception of James. I'd play him in midfield and get a proper right back, which we haven't had (aside from Ostlund) for 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 29 May, 2009 Author Share Posted 29 May, 2009 I am an expert and I would keep JPS but not Euell and BWP. I agree with that back four with the exception of James. I'd play him in midfield and get a proper right back, which we haven't had (aside from Ostlund) for 5 years. I'd like to see EITHER a wise old canny full back with James in midfield OR a canny wise old midfielder ahead of him. Sort of an L1 version of Bridgey & CMFG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 I am an expert and I would keep JPS but not Euell and BWP. I agree with that back four with the exception of James. I'd play him in midfield and get a proper right back, which we haven't had (aside from Ostlund) for 5 years. Ostlund was gash. I am unconvinced by JPS. Sometimes solid, always strong in the air, but a bit naive at times (three pens, each a carbon copy of each other). I agree though that we need strong CBs to compete in L1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 If we can get the players to sign new contracts that reflect the fact that we're a League One side, then I'd keep the following: Davis Perry Mills Euell Wright-Phillips and White As a side note, I thought it might be worth mentioning that Lee Molyneux has been told he can look for another club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 James has developed into better rb than Ostlund Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 Ostlund was gash. I am unconvinced by JPS. Sometimes solid, always strong in the air, but a bit naive at times (three pens, each a carbon copy of each other). I agree though that we need strong CBs to compete in L1. Ostlund was one of those marmite players, like Prutton, Skacel, Saganowski and Wright. I thought he was a decent player, although I'm sure many will disagree strongly. Yes JPS was a bit rash at times, but with that midfield and Perry's tectonic plate speed, he had to make his fair share of last ditch tackles. When you think we've been playing the likes of early bath Ollie Lancashire this season, I think we need him. Thinking about it, I'd actually play him and Thomas in the middle, with Perry possibly at RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 I know BWP isn't well recieved on this forum. However on a lower wage he would do very well in League One and we'd be stupid not to try and keep him aslong as the wage level was right. Same applies for Euell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 29 May, 2009 Share Posted 29 May, 2009 So, we have new people coming in to look at the books They will have firm plans of what our cost structure must be in League 1 So, one of their first decisions will be to look at our out of contract players... KD, BWP and Euell. They may also look at JPS who said he would love to carry on playing. Wotte has indicated on the OS that the "old" club has opened contract talks. IF you were advising the new guys who would you keep? me - no brainer KD and get JPS back. BWP & Euell are more difficult. A motivated Euell could be just what we need, but would he fit our new style? BWP - we've had something like 3 years of "potential". Would we take the gamble or would we look for someone better suited to L1? Ideas? I expect we will have limited resources and someone like BWP will only be stopping actual talent at a greater cost from developing. Euell really has not done enough regularly to justify any sort of salary. The talent we will more than likely look for from within, those more adept at kicking the opposition will be required from outside. KD and JPS are very good shouts and I hope they are here next season. Be interested to see if Wotte stays? If money is tight, I imagine he may be given until January? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 I know BWP isn't well recieved on this forum. However on a lower wage he would do very well in League One and we'd be stupid not to try and keep him aslong as the wage level was right. Same applies for Euell. Agreed !! As per BWP the further the way from this club the better, he is not only sh!te and living off his dads and bro's name but is clearly a bad influence. KD, perry and JPS are definate. L james is a definate. We will be ok with a bit more strength in MF and perhaps a new forward. DMG will eventually (hopefully with us) convert to a v accomplished MF in my eyes. Euell could perhaps do a job, Wotte to move to reserve or youth coach for him and our benefit. DP as manager, not played under him but have heard enough good words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 (edited) Until we know what kind of budget the team will be operating with next season it's all just speculation , but idle speculation is what we do here so ...... Kelvin Davis - Seems to like it here and wants to stay . Very few good judges of the game would be unhappy with that outcome . JPS - Good no nonsense defender , I'd have him back in a New York minute if both sides could agree an acceptable contract . BWP - Could possibly 'do a job' at L1 level but I'd let him go if it were my call . Mule - Decent Midfielder (not a centre forward) but not special enough to avoid a massive pay-cut which may not go down too well . Stern John - Hasn't done much out on loan but certain to be a top striker in L1 , just how deep are Pinnacle's pockets ? Greg Rasiak - Quality player in a similar situation to Stern , but even less likely to stay unfortunately . Michael Svensson - Time to call it a day with regard to playing surly . A popular coaching appointment nevertheless and future manager ? Edited 30 May, 2009 by CHAPEL END CHARLIE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 What does this involve. Breaking their arm and see if they keep playing? ....or scoring at least one goal every 10 years or so ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 As a side note, I thought it might be worth mentioning that Lee Molyneux has been told he can look for another club. A pointless signing , just because you come from a Premier League club this does not mean you are necessarily any better than players we already have - young Mills has far greater potential IMO . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 I used Benali's name as I wanted a players name who would have tackled a speeding freight train to help the saints cause guess you could insert Killer, CMFG or Case Fran may have been an animal on the pitch but was a gent off it unlike some modern players who are spoilt brats on the pitch & animals off it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 If we can get the players to sign new contracts that reflect the fact that we're a League One side, then I'd keep the following: Davis Perry Mills Euell Wright-Phillips and White As a side note, I thought it might be worth mentioning that Lee Molyneux has been told he can look for another club. Harlequins ... London Irish ... etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 As others have said, budget will mean a lot, but I think also the choice of manager will (should) influence who we keep on. If for example Wotte stays, then BWP may as well go - he is not a winger and not suited to the style of play Wotte dictates. Kelvin Davis - Keep for sure. Loves the club which is a big plus IMO. JPS - Keep if a L1 contract is acceptable to him. BWP - See above. If played alongside a targetman as striker, better than DMcG IMO and will score plenty of goals. Mule - Strange one - he's not a great midfielder IMO, but is a good leader and strong. Could do a job, but L1 wages??? Stern John - Best striker we've potentially got, but he will not play at L1 level I suspect and will not take L1 wages, so we'll see him go. Greg Rasiak - Per Stern. Michael Svensson - Let's move on - no playing contract likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the scud Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 Kelvin Davis - Would sign him up straight away, IMO would be best GK in L1 by far. JPS - Again would love him to stay, said he wants to stay would be great L1 signing! Vidic of L1. BWP - I would sign him on for another year or two, i feel that L1 might be his type of league where he can score goals. Euell- For me i wouldn't sign him for next season, reason being personally, i've never rated Euell since he has joined us, okay he had 2 oe 3 good games for us near the end of last season but you cant judge a player on those 2 or 3 games and i don't think he would take a wage cut maybe MLS for him next season. Stern John - Would love it if he stayed for next season and sign a new contract but IMO it won't happen becase of wages. Again like Euell maybe MLS might be the next destination. Rasiak - Like Stern John and Euell wage would be a problem would be great in L1 but IMO a championship club is waiting to make a bid for him. Michael Svensson - His playing days are over but like others have said coaching role would be the best idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 I'd keep Kelvin and Chris Perry (who's already signed up I believe). I think BWP would be worth keeping, but only if he takes greatly reduced terms. Euell - possibly, dificult one, will depend on the new manager and if he can motivate/get the best from him. I'd also keep Wotton which might be controversial, but we'll need battlers in League 1. Rasiak/John etc. will surely move on now permanently which is the right thing for them and us. As said on another thread I think Lee Trundle would be worth a gamble - proven scorer in this division, even though he's about 33. How about Gary Monk too - done well at Swansea and again experienced in this league. Might be some fallout if Martinez moves to Wigan. Would obviously also like a few younger imports, but we'll have to rely on our new manager for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 What does this involve. Breaking their arm and see if they keep playing? And still take throw-ins! Legend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 What does this involve. Breaking their arm and see if they keep playing? Which reminds me, Gregory Vignal is available on a free and CDAJFU. Decent LB and could take a mean penalty, unlike the 3 muppets who've tried this season. DMG - Scored 3 from 5 Surman - Scored 2 from 3? Not sure on that one. Wotton - Scored 0 from 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 Player contracts is an urgency. But, it's putting the cart before the horse a bit. Firstly a decision has to be made about the Manager. And the longer that is up in the air the the less time there will be for getting the right players in and contracts signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haddock22 Posted 30 May, 2009 Share Posted 30 May, 2009 How many divisions do we have to drop before people think bwp is the man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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