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Of course he should get some credit, he was signed on Lowe's watch on the recommendation of someone Lowe brought to the club. Morgan went on his own journey but a major part of it was his joining Saints.

If someone doused all the seats in petrol and set fire to it, the stadium would burn down or at least be significantly fire damaged. That's true too but bears zero relevance whatsoever to what happened to us in our administration. A lecture about "scrap value" and liquidation I am sure is riveting but bears no resemblance whatsoever to what happened to us. As usual Whitey talks sh it, I call him out and then he resorts to ever more tenuous routes to avoid admitting he's wrong, usually culminating in a pointless link to a website. Has happened before and it will again.

This is what he wrote: The assets of the club were not, repeat not, sold or even offered for "scrap". And the subsequent price agreed to lift us out of admin was far from "scrap value". So nonsense. The above bears no resemblance whatsoever with what happened to Southampton throughout the entire duration of our administration. None whatsoever. So nonsense again. What exactly have I misinterpreted?

I love it when you try and explain something to me that I understand and you patently and pitifully don't understand. We were in administration, not liquidation. Administration. Not. Liquidation. If you still believe our administrators were trying to sell elements of the company for "scrap" before the Leibherrs turned up, then fine. Just be a poppet and show me any quotes or reports from anyone involved in our administration process that demonstrates that was the case. If you can't, try and find in yourself to admit you got it wrong, again.

The Leibherrs didn't buy scrap then, did they? If I remember rightly they purchased a football stadium, club and training ground with the intention of carrying on with their previous purpose, that of being a football stadium, club and training ground. Scrap means something different. But you're awfully clever so you knew that, didn't you?

When did we go through liquidation?

You're wrong about pretty much everything you express an opinion on, so at least you're consistent here. Clearly what the Leibherrs bought wasn't "scrap" and they didn't pay "scrap value" either. Presumably you slept through that too. Or maybe you just ain't that attentive.

That was a pretty long coma you were in around 2006 and 2007. Must have been tough for your family.

The system that took us to eighth and into Europe? That system? Sorry, your scenario is just driven by "Lowe is the bogeyman" prejudice. Nothing in his behaviours or results suggest the doom scenario you've painted there. If he had stayed at worst he would have run us, as ever, within our means. It may have meant a trip to L1 like Norwich, Forest, Leicester, Leeds but equally could have meant a return to the Premier League like the likes of Watford, Blackpool, Burnley managed with smaller budgets than Whiskey George had. With a decent hit rate of perfectly competent managerial appointments - Strachan, Hoddle, Jones and (at the time a proven Championship pedigree) Burley, I would suggest that the balance of probability, we would have stabilised into mid table financially stable Championship mediocrity like, say, Derby County with a bit of play off/relegation flirting thrown in. Not quite the dreamland of today but more likely than your silly scenario.

"Give everyone five year contracts" is this years "why don't we do our transfer business early". Simple solutions for a simple world.

So a Hispanic Jim Magilton then.

Thanks for providing the dictionary definition of "barely literate ham-fisted troll drivel" in one handy post.

It's about 3,000 away fans. Cup games are more but then ST don't count then.

I am also hearing it will be announced at quarter past eight tonight. Well excited.

Winner. Shlong it is.

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Love it. 0.75 $hanes is a great price.

Yours is a rubbish argument, yes. Mine, on the other hand, isn't. Happy to help.

He was a bit sluggish towards the end of the season.

We are definitely definitely going to sign him today.

I must have missed the bit where Georges Prost wandered into Staplewood off the street and decided to work for Southampton Football Club of his own volition.

Rational debate; Rational debate: Rational debate: Rational debate: Rational debate: Rational debate: Rational debate: Rational debate: I think you may have missed the multiple times where I have said I have no interest in having a rational debate with you. You keep saying you want to have one with everyone but your behaviour suggests otherwise. And despite replying to me every single day, you still haven't noticed I am not arguing with you about anything. So you do indeed say things "people can't argue with" but that's because you mainly write barely literate ham-fisted troll drivel. So if it's okay with you I will continue to not argue with you, and continue simply enjoying your breathtaking ability to debate rationally. Make no mistake, you is the winner at that.

You've never watched Back To The Future 2, then?

Well, it's not really about patience. The season we've just had is pretty much the template for the next five years. Try and squeak into the top four or six, waiting for one or two of the established clubs having a poor season giving us an in. We will continue to lose players to bigger and richer clubs. There's nothing to be patient about because that's the plan for the next five years. If we achieve it we've done great. In five years time if Man U come in for a player of ours, they'll go. And that's fine. If anyone is in any doubt, listen to the Les interview.

How refreshing to welcome Pluto to the forum. Always nice to have completely brand new contributors on board, especially the ones that clearly aren't just a banned previous member reappearing with a new name. Welcome, welcome brand new person. If you need any of us old timers to show you around this place that you clearly aren't familiar with, let us know.